Will ex-military 'Patriots' form a more dangerous kind of militias? (Video)

How much do you want to bet the FBI/NSA/CIA is all over this. Admins how many government IPs have we had on this thread alone. I bet it's at least above average.

With that said, I don't care if they know, in fact I want them to know that we are beyond pissed off and are willing to fight and die for our freedoms.

Too long have we sat by and watched this once great nation go down the drain. Will we be the generation that fought and took our government back or will we sit back and watch the end come?

We are at a cross roads people, the choice is now, act now or die later.

We need a million man march on Washington, # permits, we don't need a permit to express my freedom of speech!

It's a little encouraging that small protests are popping up here and there but it will take a revolution to force change.

A lot has changed in a few days.

I saw a thread closed because somebody wanted to get everyone to turn there flags up-side down.

The timing of this call to arms has more to do with discontent that the economy is tanking- than with infringements on liberties , as previous posters have stated , where were these "champions" whilst George Bush and Co. went to town on your constitution ?

IMHO. Seems like no one gave a crap as long as they had a car / job/ big screen T.V etc etc etc ......

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and how do you know this video isnt 2 years old? I know if wanted to keep my identity to myself Id release a video a year or 2 after its made.

and that idiot on page 4 talking about facial recognition software, hes a puppet.

im canadian but Im willing to head south and fight.

Originally posted by semperfi221
U know what i hope ? yea i used to be in the armed forces i hope that the right people get ahold of this video and i will do what ever it takes to make sure that that happens that the wack job behing the mask is arrested and thrown in the brig for the rest of his life and branded a traitor and a threat to all we hold dear there are ways other than inciting a revolution to get your point across i have turned this video into my former commander and it is being reviewed with facial reconition software to find out who it is and where he is located for arrest!

Ooo ok.. Just STFU

Sailor

I hope this movement scares the left to death. Without the conservatives tax money and the Presidents control, they have nothing.

Marines swear an oath to the Constitution. The same one Obama has put down and criticized many times.

There's a favorite latin quote I like. It's "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" It means, "Who watches the watchers?".

I guess this post answers that question.

I was the one with the up side down flag thread. 50 flags, followed by a closure, followed by a trash canning.

Whatever.

The FDIC is now officially on record stating thy will be out of money in six months. What the federal government does when that happens will not matter.

At that point, you will not need my up side down flag thread to get the people on the street.

There is no way the feds will let the FDIC fail. So they will pump more money into the FDIC to keep it going. It won't matter. They will have to print so much more money, it will be worthless.

I work for a bank. I do not want to be working at a bank when the FDIC money runs out.

Banks are about to turn into the bad guys new 7-11.

If you can't see the writing on the wall, you don't know how to read.

On another note, farmers are saying they can't get credit this season and as a result, will not be able to plant their spring crops. I have no clue how big or small this farmer issue is but if it's big, that is going to be a problem we will see real soon.

I live in Houston. We went through Ike in September. In my neighborhood, there was a food shortage for about 3 days. 72 hours. Not a long time.

Unlike New Orleans, we maintained control (Katrina was a whole 'nother animal.) But I saw with my own eyes and ears a measurable degradation in local society.

When it starts to get ugly, that ugly will spread fast.

Word of advice; Katrina, Rita, Ike. When things get bad, if you don't want to be told were you can and can not drive, stay as far away from the interstate highways as possible. Stay off of them. Cross as few of them as possible. And if possible, stay out of largely populated areas.

Or, don't take my advice. Learn the hard way.

If you plan on keeping your money post FDIC-apocalypse, you might want to start making withdraw arrangements now.

If you work in a bank, you might as well work in the WTC. The FDIC's run out, that's the plane. If you plan on remaining calm and staying put, good luck!

Peace until war.

To all Patriots.

Understand this and remember it.

Our Military is not and will not turn on the American People. Our military is here to protect us and to defend the U.S. Constitution and this country.

Our U.S. Government Agencies will not turn on the American People. They are here to protect this country and to defend the U.S. Constitution.

The threat is still unknown and has not shown its true face yet but it will and that is why we all need to stand down but be prepared for anything and be ready at a moments notice.

It is We The People that make up our military, our gov't agencies, it is We that live in and love this country. It is We that will prevent this country from falling and it is We that will Defend her if the time should ever come.


Just be Ready for anything. It could be as simple as the Million Man, or 100 million man march or it could be something other than that.

Just remember who sits in your State Senator chair and congressman chair when it is time to vote again. Make sure that they are not in those seats after the election. This is where it needs to start.

If you don't do this, and vote in new and fresh people your bad dreams just might come true.


Be prepared for anything,

Eye of Eagle

Members of the military are citizens as well. They just decided to go and serve and fight for something. They will not turn against the people, because they are the friggin' people. Those who believe otherwise are wrong. The fighting force are the enlisted soldiers. The ones we would have to worry about are the officers in high ranking positions. Not all of them are evil either though. We can't just make generalizations because WE DON"T KNOW JACK. I believe that those (people) who make generalizations such as those (generalizations) are ignorant themselves. Many officers are also just good people. If you ever read a freaking book like House to House, you might see just how "bad" those officers and Sergeants (who are enlisted level soldiers BTW) really are. You also won't see them speaking out publicly because they are still serving, and essentially have less rights while in the military.

Now the issue about police, well it's the same thing. They are just people. Citizens, fathers, sons, mothers, daughters, brothers, sisters, nephews, cousins, WHATEVER. They will not turn against the people if radical shiznit starts happening. They are the friggin' people. Especially if you are talking about municipal, county and state level officers. The most we should ever have to come close to worrying about are the feds. Even they are just people though. People in the government, well they're just people. I just urge people not to make generalizations and think that everyone is bad, because you cannot prove it to be true, and if anything should happen, you may end up hurting the wrong people. If TSHTF, will you gun slingers just start shooting at police officers and militarymen on sight? Well you'll just get yourself killed either way whether they are "good" or "bad".

Think about this also, if things became chaotic, obviously police officers and the military would fight against rebels. Why? Because they would be considered anarchist, out-of-control, and dangerous. With good reason too. Such warfare, if it were to happen, would lead to the deaths of many including innocent people. And who would cause it? Most likely such rebels. I myself would fight off anyone who would try to hurt me whether it be a rebel, revolutionary, police, military, whomever. A peaceful form of revolution should take place instead. Starting a war would only be reckless, idiotic, ignorant, suicidal, murderous etc. True reform in the government has to happen. In fact, I believe that the Constitution should be rewritten. It is outdated, and much of it has to be modified. I'm not suggesting that it should be eradicated, or that rights be removed, it should simply be rewritten and reinterpreted. Much of it would have to remain the same if it were up to me, since it is great already, but a lot of things in it are useless anyway, and many other things have to be added to it. Many events have happened since it's drafting and are happening right now, so it must be rewritten to secure more rights, and limit more wrongdoing.

(P.S.-Keep in mind that I only read the first page of posts, not the entire discussion)

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Originally posted by brohes

This video is a reminder that we are free.

Unfortunately, for the safety of his own family, this brave soldier has to wear that mask. This shows that in America people are NOT free.

This is the very reason this hero is making no bones about his stance. This the very reason the outcome is inevitable.

I wonder if this guy knows how comforting his message is to the American people? I wonder if he's aware about how welcome his message is? I wonder if he knows how many people are hoping and praying that he's right when he says that the military "will not" fight against the American people.

It's a brilliant message by a brilliant young man. I trust this man. Thank you soldier.

I love the TV show Burn Notice. Anyone on the thread watch it? It’s about an ex-spy (agency never given) whose been cut by his agency to be cajoled into working for an even more sinister shadowy one he would prefer not to have to work for.

I love the show because in every episode there are usually at least two occasions where he narrates as he demonstrates how to turn common household items into all kinds of very useful and sometimes very harmful and deadly things. Kind of like a lot more menacing McIver.

There are two full seasons worth of episodes now and a lot of helpful tips for the overly or some might say suitably paranoid types.

Just a thought but unless you need poker buddies who needs a militia or the military to come save you when versatility and resilience and a few well honed useful skills can do the job for yourself?

New World Order? Bring it on, life sure gets boring sometimes watching TV!

Originally posted by EYEOFEAGLE
To all Patriots.

Understand this and remember it.

Our Military is not and will not turn on the American People. Our military is here to protect us and to defend the U.S. Constitution and this country.

Our U.S. Government Agencies will not turn on the American People. They are here to protect this country and to defend the U.S. Constitution.

The threat is still unknown and has not shown its true face yet but it will and that is why we all need to stand down but be prepared for anything and be ready at a moments notice.

It is We The People that make up our military, our gov't agencies, it is We that live in and love this country. It is We that will prevent this country from falling and it is We that will Defend her if the time should ever come.


Just be Ready for anything. It could be as simple as the Million Man, or 100 million man march or it could be something other than that.

Just remember who sits in your State Senator chair and congressman chair when it is time to vote again. Make sure that they are not in those seats after the election. This is where it needs to start.

If you don't do this, and vote in new and fresh people your bad dreams just might come true.


Be prepared for anything,

Eye of Eagle

Eagle while i back every bit of the video the op posted in this thread, all the posts i have seen from you are extremly vauge. Whats the deal are you in or out. If you have something to say speak it. Do not hide it in cryptic codes or riddles. If you really are a patriot i have much respect for you and want to work with you to over come the machine. If you take this topic as serious as i do i think you would agree it is best to just put out there what you know.

You speak as if you are above the members in this forum and that you know something that we don't know but yet to have said anytihng to back it up. Are you a attention whore who thinks they are special or are you really trying to contribute to a movement?

I know if i knew something i would put it out there. If you really believe in the power of the people you would not fear consiquences. If you really believed in liberty you would not be afraid to put out there what you know.

What i'm asking is go let it out. Give us patriots a reason to believe something to ralley about! Otherwise just shut up! All your doing is trivalizing a situation that is serious and real.

In the spirit of Patrotism i charge you will letting everyone in this forum know what you know. If you can;t do that, honestly your far from being a patriot.

Sorry about the spelling im a bit drunk. Have thought about this thread all day though.

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Good message by the way. Do you think the "tension" you mentioned in the latter part of your message, is caused by fear of the unknown?? I think everyone is on edge right now, with fear of the unknown being the biggest factor. Most of the masses have started to figure out that the government really doesn't know what to do about the economy. I think we are months away from some dangerous territory, whatever that entails.
I think the problems the US is going to encounter on the civilian front will fall somewhere in the middle of the spectrum. By that I mean not total civil unreast, but the government will know the natives are restless.
I saw an old newsreel of WWI veterans marching on Washington, staying in tent cities there, just wanting their pensions from WWI. They were having big demonstrations and making a big fuss. They got shot at, and gassed. Not a pretty sight. The government will do what it has to to maintain order. The question arrises, who are they going to get to be the enforcers???
Are we the same America from 75 plus years ago?? I'm not so sure some 19 year old guardsman from Kansas would fire on some hungry, out of work , pissed off citizen, that has nothing to lose, who is tired of waiting for his slice of the stimulus pie.
Many questions beg an answer. The frightning part is, we are looking at some bad answers, no matter how you look at it.
Have a nice day, and thank you for shopping at Wal Mart.

reply to post by Genfinity

I totally agree with your post. How long do you think it will take for the rest of the sheeple to figure out that your ideas are correct?? It really doesn't take a genius to figure out that theres no way to back all those deposits up when even a small , quiet run starts. And with the internet alive and kicking, there won't be anything such as a "quiet" run on the banks.

To anyone who is reading this thread, and has read the post by lightinthedark33, i would like to point out that he/she is disinfo/ info gathering agent to all concerned. This is the kind of thing you have to watch out for, classic case of intelligence gathering, i'd enjoy breaking it down for you but my time is limited as i am on a smoke break and i cannot waste my phone battery, maybe later.

As for OP, that was a wonderful video. the only thing that gets me more hyped up than that is the movie 300, and the degradation of our Constitution, good find OP.

Eye of Eagle, heard you loud and clear.

Love and Peace

Reading some of the replies to the video gives me the sensation of watching an episode of "The Jerry Springer Show".

We have brainwashed military trying to tell us that themselves and those they serve are here to uphold the constitution.

We have crazies that are all gung ho,and for an all out revolution.

We have everything in between.

But most of all we have the classic american "get nothing done" attitude......to bitch and argue until the whole point of the conversation is lost and the authorities have to be called to restore order...(order?).

Yup,same old #,different day.

Until there is an agreement on a course of action,nothing will ever get done....ya think that's an accident?.

I would almost guarantee that the PTB have a course of action in mind which would strike any course of action we discuss here down.

I guarantee that the PTB only understand force and coercion as a means of CONTROL.

Turn off your fkn TV.

Re-learn how to think and read.

Read the constitution.

I think it is funny how we here in america are afraid to breathe each others air,there is really no such thing as talking face to face in most cases,just crank up the cell-phone,windows up,AC and stereo on.

All of the methods we communicate by are being monitored,all the ideas we have to influence change are being planned for by those who fear losing CONTROL.

I am not suggesting that everyone turn "anti-technology" to avoid monitoring,just check your cell-phone by the door.

If anyone had the guts to actually tolerate bad breath and pit-stank,instead of encapsulating themselves in their own sterile little world of safety and security...

There is no safety and/or security,the proof of that is in the pudding,and anyone who would trade liberty for either,deserves niether.

Some Famous Guy said that..........

People have been trying to tell us the truth for hundreds of years,but nobody really hears what they say.

Go buy something shiny,drink a beer,everything is under CONTROL.

Please pardon my sarcasm,I really have faith in nothing but the fact that I will die someday after a life of slavery.

Too Many Blind Ones

(plan for the worst,hope for the best)..?..

Hope is surrender.

I refuse.






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I don't know what to make of this.

Why now?

Why not when Bush was in office?

Is this just someone on the net trolling?

Why does this person not think they can be traced on their youtube?

The real issue is that we are in fear of using our freedoms,or maybe not so sure if we still have any.

The person on the video was only excercising his RIGHT to freedom of expression.

It is not supposed to be a crime to talk about doing something,it is a crime to do it.

Or which is it?.

If something were to happen,the authorities already have his confession,and the ignorant jurors won't know the difference between the authorities twisting it out of shape to make him look guilty whether something happened or not,or if he had anything to do with whatever it may have been.

The truth is that the system is the enemy,the authorities,in no way are there to help you,or protect you,unless they skim something for themselves first.

Prisons and jails have been privatised,how do you expect they manage to be profitable?,they are being built everywhere.

It Is All Just A Game.

Originally posted by leira7
Why weren't we so ready to start a revolution when Bush was in office? If there was a time, it would be during that presidency. I wonder if McCain had won, would people be as up in arms and ready for battle? For some reason I don't think they would.

You're still not getting the picture. It matters not whether McCain or Obama won the election. The offshore rulers over Washington owned all the horses in the race. As always, they had it set up that they win no matter which candidate took the presidency. And in this case, they certainly wanted it to be Obama, so they engineered things to make sure it was Obama. How did they do that? Enter Sarah Palin. What a perfect plan to ensure the American voters wouldn't vote for McCain.

You're right... during the Bush presidency would have been a logical time for "all American people" to re-take their country, dissolve the current federal government and re-assert the American constitution to its fullest extent. But the tighter the noose gets around the neck, the more likely violent resistance.

You might think that the American people might not be quite as pissed today, had McCain won. But I assure you, McCain is just as capable of following orders and reading from the script as Obama is. Therefore, had McCain won the election... things would be exactly the same as they are today and the American people would be exactly as pissed off as they are right now.

You have to try to get this through your head: It makes no difference who wins the election. The 'corporation' owns all the horses in the race and this brave patriot knows it.