Rapelay virtual rape game banned by Amazon

I don't really know about censorship in this case - but maybe sanctions could do some work:

Japan Pledges To Halt Production Of Weirdo Porn That Makes People Puke



But seriously this has been known of in gaming circles for at least a year - and largely ignored.

While I certainly couldn't defend it on any level - I have strongly defended the GTA series before - and it is a M-rated sandbox type videogame where one can do some pretty henious things.

(I certainly have)

Never made me any more violent - if anything it reduced the intensity of my frustration with Humanity - and reduced my temptaion to go postal in the real world.

Sooo.... Censorship is Bad - Parental Controls (and active Parenting) Good!

Of course - it is more complicated than that - but history has shown it is better to enforce local community standards - than to try and impose some authoritarian standard across a diverse set of peoples.

Now I do believe in absolute morals in Religion - but one is free to ascribe to that Religious belief or not - if you do - however - expect to be judged by the standards you claim to embrace.

I think every human being with a conscience knows when something crosses the line between acceptable and not acceptable, whether or not they want to admit it.

Censorship arguments aside, we all know that a game like this goes WAY past the limit of being acceptable. It's a disgusting plot for a game, IMO, just like that video game that came out that was a shooter based on Columbine High School after the Columbine incident.

Amazon is a business and as such has every right to decide what they will or will not sell. Personally I applaud them for this decision and it means I will continue to shop there (I buy from Amazon about three times a month). If they had insisted on selling a game like this, I would have stopped buying from them.

Just so some of you understand a little bit about "who I am"

I want to state that I am 100% against rape. 100% against violence towards women.

I would be the FIRST to help any women getting pushed around by her boyfriend, I don't care if I get broken bones attempting to help, I'm pretty crazy like that.

I've been mugged by a few thugs, I gave them a fist fight by myself, trying to defend myself. There were SEVERAL people just watching, and doing NOTHING to help. I know for a fact that most people are afraid to get involved and help, they just want to get home and relax.

That's why I like to make it point to do anything I can to help if I see anything like this, because I know most people are thinking "someones got to help" yet they do nothing.



But I do not agree with taking freedoms away when no crime is commited. e.g drawing pictures.

I do agree there should be precautions, and we should be aware etc.

If you have a low opinion of me, if I disgust you. Then fine. So be it. At least you have the freedom to have that choice, to express that opinion......


Peace.

P.S, I'm 22, single, so at the moment I really am not getting some But I have no problem getting a girlfriend, so don't worry I won't rape anyone. lol


[edit on 13-2-2009 by _Phoenix_]

reply to post by traderjack


Wow, you really have no idea, have you? Whilst a terrible thing, it's a game. Even young kids can tell the difference between a game and real life, so I think adults can do it too.

And it's going to "instill the perversion of rape in the minds of young men and boys" is it? That's a laugh. The people who rape most likely have a psychological problem, not because they once saw a game. Otherwise we'd have thousands of people running around killing people like they do every night on various games.

And as for the creators? How CAN you accuse somone you've never met. Clearly you need to rethink your argument.

And before you try to push it on me, I dont EVER condone anything like this in REAL LIFE. It IS wrong, in REAL LIFE. If somone wants to play this in their spare time, well that's their choice.

Mayne, in all of your minds, it seems that people who make killing games are killers subconsciously...lol...That nigga who made the torture game must be itching to torture peeps.

Originally posted by Sergeant Stiletto
Yeah this game concept is ill.

However, it was likely designed by some pimply-faced, techno-geek teenagers who can't get a date anyway - so don't be hating on the Japanese in general. That's a big, irrelevant leap and I think you should rephrase your comments.

Please don't hack me pimply-faced, techno-geek teenagers...

I don't think you've ever seen hentai or anime in general if you believe this has nothing to do with the Japanese culture. I'm not saying it's all Japanese males, but it definitely has to do with their culture, and treatment of younger women, many of the women they portray look anywhere from 14 to 18 engaged in crude sexual acts (like being "gang raped" by...an octupus [I wish I were making this up])

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They are also obsessed about milf's/ older women, mother figures etc too. So basically all the fantasies you can think of is somewhere, including, true love, dating fantasies, also a lot of women play these games too.


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Originally posted by _Phoenix_
reply to post by yellowcard

 

They are also obsessed about milf's/ older women, mother figures etc too. So basically all the fantasies you can think of is somewhere, including, true love, dating fantasies, also a lot of women play these games too.


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Many cultures are interested in those; but it is open in their society to display younger women/girls in a sexual roles. I'm not saying that that some Americans don't desire younger women that are not of age, but they are a minority, and it is not somewhat embraced by the social media.

Originally posted by yellowcard

Originally posted by _Phoenix_
reply to post by yellowcard

 

They are also obsessed about milf's/ older women, mother figures etc too. So basically all the fantasies you can think of is somewhere, including, true love, dating fantasies, also a lot of women play these games too.


[edit on 13-2-2009 by _Phoenix_]

Many cultures are interested in those; but it is open in their society to display younger women/girls in a sexual roles. I'm not saying that that some Americans don't desire younger women that are not of age, but they are a minority, and it is not somewhat embraced by the social media.

Actually I think I disagree, the whole young schoolgirl thing is a huge thing in America from what I've heard. But yes they don't embrace it as much. But I'd say America is second to Japan in the world with this whole schoolgirl roleplay business.

I've had enough of talking about this crap now, talking porn ain't really my thing, haha. Off to another topic now.

Nice talking.

Peace.


[edit on 13-2-2009 by _Phoenix_]

I must first apologize, as I have not red this thread in it's entirety before posting.

I felt so compelled to post, yet now I'm finding myself speechless...

In other cases, when video games have been blamed on violence, I've been quick to jump on the "it's a frakkin' video game" band wagon.

There's something different about this though. This is not just a game, it's an ideology. If you just want some action you can't get in the "real" world, there's plenty of software out there that will allow you to have consensual sex with virtual partners. This game caters to a different audience though. Players of this type of game must want to force themselves onto unwilling women. Players of this game are looking for that "special feeling" they get by violating something sacred, a womans consent.

We've all blasted virtual enemies to oblivion before, usually on the way to some other, paramount goal or ambition. Whether it's rescuing a virtual hostage, destroying some doomsday device, or just "staying alive" in the virtual world in which we've chosen to play in. The goal here however, is just rape, and as I said before, I don't buy the whole "it's for geeks who can't get any tail" argument. If that's your ticket, go download your virtual desktop stripper and get it on with an all to ready and willing cyber-slut.

Those who created this game, and those that would actually play it, are suppressing the evolution of our species, and should be cut out like the cancer they are.

What's the big deal? It's a game intended for adults. "Oh noes the new movie has 3 seconds of boob shot!" Totally ignore the other 85 minutes of blood and gore and torture. Isn't this what South Park went to war with Canada over? Violence, ok, bad words, NOT OK BLAME CANADA!

This game is a pornography, theres nothing wrong with it and its not story worthy. You arent raping children in the game. This is not some game a kid ends up with. Amazon clearly screwed up in its marketing. Some news reporter obviously needed ratings. There are a ton of these games out there. The underground home made games are the ones that have unappropriate things in them. If you want to complain about this then you should be complaining about girls in pornos in ponytails.

reply to post by wolf241e


Have to agree with you. This type of game is in very very bad taste and should be completely removed from all stores everywhere.

Its one thing to have games that promote stealing cars and running over people in cities, even that is streching morals a bit too far, but this rape game is completely taking it way byond the limit.

I am surprised that there would be any distributor actually distributing this trash.

GAME OVER!!!!



Cheers!!!!

reply to post by wolf241e


Just to present another side to this...
Perhaps a game like this would also have a good effect.
After all, when you can do that on a computer without the fear of consequences, you're somewhat less likely to do it in real life, right?
Meh, who knows...
But I agree, it's sick either way.

Although I think its sick, and disturbing.
Seeing as thought its not actually real, and you aren't actually committing a crime.
Then it should be up to the individual what they do.
Amazon removing it because, "they" don't like it, just shows they are control freaks.

Rape in videogames is almost as old as videogames themselves.

Don't believe me? Google "custer's revenge"

Japan has been making games like this for years, it is nothing new. Japan goes from making stupidly cute things to very disturbing things. It is just what they do.

As too the whole banning things, I think that is very short sited. If the guys were not getting off to these games, they would probally be out doing it in real life.

Also before going and condeming Japan as a horrid violent country for making things like this, you should also know that it has one of the lowest crime rates in the world (And I think it is droping aswell).

Last but not least these are peoples fantasies and everyone has these, I bet ever single human being likes something that another human would find horrid and say that person should be killed for. You can not take a persons fantasies away from them. They can always just lay back and imagine these scenarios in their own heads. So does taking away there cartoon pictures really make a differnece?

Originally posted by BorgHoffen
Although I think its sick, and disturbing.
Seeing as thought its not actually real, and you aren't actually committing a crime.
Then it should be up to the individual what they do.
Amazon removing it because, "they" don't like it, just shows they are control freaks.

I think it has more to do with business than control. As you can see the majority of people in America are shocked and disgusted by this type of game, that's fine.

Amazon knows that americans will cause problems because of this game, something amazon doesn't need, so it will be bad for business.

I'm saying this because I just checked, Amazon Japan, www.amazon.co.jp... and the game is still there.

Business.


ps. I'm totally fine with private businesses banning whatever they want. Especially games like this, like what Amazon did, they made a decision based on profit.

But once the goverment steps in and starts banning things and taking away freedoms, that's where we should all be worried!


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Originally posted by nasdack24k
Rape in videogames is almost as old as videogames themselves.

Don't believe me? Google "custer's revenge"

A star for you, since i already posted about Custer's revenge, Mystique and Playaround which took over control of Mystiques assets after they went under back on page 2.