**AMAZING** Artifact On Mars!! Original JPL Picture source included!!

Originally posted by zorgon
My so much anger...:WOW: yet you say you have no point to make?

With that attitude, why should we care what YOUR doing in this thread?

Hi Zorgon! Nah, it's not anger that you cited. If there was an emotion involved, it would have to be frustration and incredulity that certain points weren't apparently sinking in after having been explained.

I didn't say I had no point, I said I had no claim. The distinction here should be fairly obvious, as my point was explaining the burden of proof.

I don't think you should particularly care what I'm doing in this thread. Either you'll see the logic in what I'm saying, or you won't. Hopefully if you don't it's not because I failed to adequately express myself.

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Thankyou for the post, that was 'constructive critisism, and I appreciate it.

The word 'Artifact' was misleading (tis why i've refered to it as an 'object' from shortly after). I should check my definition more carefully next time

I still think it is an amazing shape, it ignites the imagination if anything else.

And hey, you could pull up a hundred mysteries before you find one that actually counts heh

Cheers again

AoN

[edit on 11-2-2009 by Anomic of Nihilism]

I just used the Gimp to rotate and flip the image provided above and I had to admit that the object in question looks like a tool. It's like it's holding a stone. I did the most to see a rock, but please zoom it in and see for yourselves!!!

convinently rovers were somwhere else shootin "sand beach pics"

After rotating and flipping around the photo, I arrived to this:

That artefact was a tool and it was holding something that today looks like a rock. No way the artefact it's a rock and is playing tricks with our eyes. Get a good image viewer and repeat what I did with the Gimp. Rotate left and right and zoom in; flip vert. and horiz. and zoom in. I guess it's a good evidence of an artificial tool.

You know I see more in this picture than was circled.The live ones MOVE and come up less solid looking.The dead ones,as stiff as rocks register fine. Some faces come through clearer than others ,so that even noobs can see the outlines.

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Thank you very much ...and thanks for the other info.

On the other topic, the difference in file size between a raw NEF file and a TIFF file is tiny. Since I use Capture a lot, I leave everything in NEF but when I send stuff out, they want TIFF. The file saving is meaningless though.

Its a great photo. But if I remember, there have bben many attempts to land on Mars which failed. It could be a broken robotic arm from some crashed rover. But then again, where are the other remains?

Or it could be part of the rover that got smashed in the Transformers movie.

You know... it just occured to me why NASA makes a habit of deliberately smashing old spacecraft into planets...

They say its to keep the space above clear, but I bet its to baffle anomaly hunters. There is so much debris splattered around when we finally show a scrap of metal all the debunkers can says "Oh its just a piece of scrap metal from one of ours"

Originally posted by zorgon
They say its to keep the space above clear, but I bet its to baffle anomaly hunters. There is so much debris splattered around when we finally show a scrap of metal all the debunkers can says "Oh its just a piece of scrap metal from one of ours"

Proving that just because you put a lot of time into looking at pictures, this doesn't mean you use sound logic and reasoning

Yeah, I'm sure NASA is just terrified of you guys.

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good find ! you do know that there are a lot of trash made by us human in space, i red a lot about how many of our trash landed on the moon and Mar's.

Originally posted by thrashee
Yeah, I'm sure NASA is just terrified of you guys.

Nah we have established a 'working relationship' and they like our picture of the full moon

Seems several of them think its the best image of the moon they have seen

How about it was taken at verry close-up in the back yard?... Seriously, guys, anyone who knows how to use image-editing software can make a "martian scene" like that.

You didn't really believe Red Planet was actually shot on Mars, did you?

Originally posted by J.Smit
You didn't really believe Red Planet was actually shot on Mars, did you?

Of course not..




Silly Lemming

So 15 pages in, whats the consensus?

It is a photo from mars?

It is not a naturally occurring phenomenon?


am I right on both of those two obsevations?

who knows?

Originally posted by Zeus187
So 15 pages in, whats the consensus?

The closest thing to a consensus is that there will never be a consensus.

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Ya here is the rest of that nice mess on Mars.



Full Size Here



Full Size Here


Impact point



Full Size Here



Cheers!!!!

[edit on 12-2-2009 by RFBurns]

put me down for an eel, although a wrench might be correct also.

right above the eel/thing/rock is something that looks like an eye hook in a rock. looks like black metal, shiny.

it's near the dried up puffer fish, just above the twin mussel shell.




original pic....

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Keep in mind your looking at a 256 gray scale image, barely even enough data there to make a picture much less determine compositional material in anything within the image.

In a gray scale image, something black can be anything, composed of anything. Same is true with something bright. There is NO WAY to determine what something is comprised of in a simple 256 gray scale image other than assume a shape is familar looking to something.

Without the other data from the geology filters, no one, I do mean NO ONE can say this is metal or this is sediment or this is plastic or this is paper.

NASA knows tho..they got those other filter datasets. Too bad they wont publish those datasets.




Cheers!!!!

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yes i know, but it is shiny, black, looks round and stuck in a rock.

it throws a shadow and looks less natural than anything else in the pic, imho.

there is also a spiral shell looking thing in the big pic also.

just keepin my eyes open.