The Reality Of FEMA Camps And The Martial Law Apparatus

I've been skeptical about the alleged FEMA camps in the past, but this December I started to give the idea a lot more consideration. I just want to put this link here in case anyone can add to that discussion as well - I think it's possibly related:

Interstate Fences

If you are going to herd sheep to be corralled in a specific area, you are going to need fences...

Still not a single picture or location but thats because they haven't built them yet or started for that matter. Go have a look and report back.

mikell

reply to post by burdman30ott6


This thread may assist with your decision about the inwards theory:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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No, there's this, among other sites with similar info:

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

BECK is just as crazy as many people on ATS.

Now that he is publically crazy, all the little ATS sheeple are "interested" in what he has to say.

Follow your Shepard, nuttes.

Fascinating. Fema camps for natural disaster relief? Then why the razor wires and fences? If they are just to give people a place to stay temporarily, there would be no need for fences and razor wire.
People should be free to come and go as they please. Something does not add up here.

Here's another that might be helpful and includes executive orders which may be used by FEMA to exercise power and locations by state of existing camps.

above top secret

Mistake post.......
please delete...

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Originally posted by logician magician
BECK is just as crazy as many people on ATS.

Now that he is publically crazy, all the little ATS sheeple are "interested" in what he has to say.

Follow your Shepard, nuttes.

Whatever you do, make sure you don't keep an open mind about whats going around you. You could be labeled as a nut...

I mean why in the world would our Government lie to us.

The one in Beech Grove Indiana is real. I live 10 mins. from it been there and seen it. The vids on the web show it alot better then any pics I could take. Yahoo (Beech Grove Fema Camp.) Same gos for Grissom in Kokamo.

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

Originally posted by Paul3
The one in Beech Grove Indiana is real. I live 10 mins. from it been there and seen it. The vids on the web show it alot better then any pics I could take. Yahoo (Beech Grove Fema Camp.) Same gos for Grissom in Kokamo.

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

Are you talking about the Beech Grove Amtrak Repair Facility?

Are you looking for a job? coz they're hiring!

Link

This position is responsible for maintenance, overhaul, repair and replacement of train cars and its electrical/mechanical units in accordance with AAR, FRA and Amtrak standards and guidelines.

And here's some photos of TRAINS taken inside and outside:

michianacentral.com...

tbedwell.smugmug.com...


Wake up indeed!

Originally posted by 38181
reply to post by burdman30ott6

 

Im thinking maybe the US is anticipating a large scale invasion from Mexico in the form of people fleeing their corupt country government and soon to be blood bath from cartels.

I totally agree. 1 very real possibility for these camps is to house a large influx of refugees into the country from mexico. I've seen estimates of millions of refugees fleeing mexico if the government collapses. There was talk about this on ATS before.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Another alternative use for those camps could also be internment of muslims in case of a holy war between muslims and christians. Hey it's happened before, it could happen again.

my 2 cents.

Originally posted by burdman30ott6
I've been naysaying the idea of these FEMA camps for the last year, however the one issue that I haven't ever been able to get past is the fact that the razorwire on top of the chainlink fences at these suspected sites points inward. You don't put up razor wire unless you plan to keep people from climbing a fence and you don't point the razorwire inward unless you plan on keeping someone from climbing the fence to get OUT of the fenced area.

Not only does that make me doubt all my naysaying, but it makes the possibillity of these camps being used to keep people out rather than in very unlikely.

GREAT OBSERVATION I NEVER REALIZED THAT.

Context is the key.

If, for whatever catastrophic reason the Federal Governmnet decides to 'take over' the State's government functions (due to bankcruptcy, dissent, or threat of secession, for example). FEMA is prepared to institute it's 10-zone national 'management' plan. (ref: Nixon's 10-zone administrative emergency plan)

In such an event, many will need to be restrained.

Whether you believe the camps are fantasy or not. In THAT context, their existance seems quite resonable.

Of course, by that point the Constitution will have either been repealed by a declaration of national restructure, of the dissolution of the United States. Of course our wonderful political leaders, with all their high morals, and stalwart execution of public stewardship would NEVER do that to us right? It could never happen here...

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I think if they were mostly in the US Southwest it would plausible that they would be for refugees and illegal immigrants from Mexico.

The single so called camp we have in Louisiana, WW2 era Camp Livingston, appears to be nothing but ruins in the Kisatchie National Forest.

That tells me that if any camps do exist they are not for disaster evacuees. One would expect such evacuee camps especially in a Hurricane prone area like LA, but we apparently have none.

On the other hand Homeland Security and FEMA do rent old properties. Last year we housed 3000 evacuees in an old Sam's club here in Shreveport and another few thousand in an old Outlet Mall off of I-20.

The Sam's club had been well maintained and stocked with food(MREs), cots, and blankets. So sites like that could be all over the place but most people wouldn't know it.

Granted they arn't for internment and people were free to go as they pleased. Our primary jobs as National Guardsmen were to keep non evacuees out and maintain order.

Honestly I am not sure about the existence of these camps, especially after researching Camp Livingston.

If anything I would be more worried about possible Private Internment Facilities than FEMA. Personally I find the idea of Corporate ran Internment camps pretty scary.



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With the coming civil unrest (yes it's coming) these camps will be put to use against Americans. WW2 saw the same thing. Japanese Americans, the latter word being the key, were held with out warrants and due process for the duration of WW2. The feds will not hesitate to throw every single person whose said one outspoken word against the new polocies, against the economy, or against anything that they deem worthy, right into these detention facilities.

For those of you that havn't seen them please look at the links the other members have posted. Also, if you have Google Earth, do a search of Camp Graylings, or 29 palms, or FEMA concentration camps. It should turn up no less than 214 ready to go locations through out the US and several located in western Canada. It's time to start stocking up. I've already started.

ED-still learning how to spell

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Looters etc, are not the problem as they will be shot on sight. No these camps are not for looters and people should be really worried. What these camps will be used for is those with the political will and mindset to challenge the Government. Thats the first thing you do when the poop hits the fan, remove the opposition.

So the list will include anyone who is politically active, teachers, lawers, environmentalists anyone that is well educated and in a position of authority or influence. After them would be, gays, artists, musicians, writers, journalists etc.

Next in line would be those who resist, the ones who do have the guts to use all those guns they have, militias etc.

No looters etc. are not even bottom of the pile where the camps are concerned.

Thsoe that are not killed off immediately will be either re educated or sent to work camps, worked to death that is.

whats left is the scared sheeple and the pawns who do the bidding of their masters, thats the cops, the army, Government officers and the like.
It will be alreay structured and the framework in place the only thing thats is missing is the time and the event to cause it.

The alleged camps can also be used to contain a great number of people who have acquired some extremely contagious disease due to biological disaster, warfare, illness, etc.

There are a lot more brilliant ways to institute Martial Law than rounding up people and creating panic. The best way is to have it instituted without people even knowing that it's been put into effect. Saves a lot of problems.

Originally posted by L.HAMILTON


With most of the States in the country on the verge of economic collapse and banks refusing to loan money to their Treasury agencies as such in California , we are on the verge of something far worse than the Great Depression. The camps are in place along with Congress proposing H.R. 645. Martial Law and the use of these FEMA Camps is very real.

www.roguegovernment.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

You need to read HR 645. It has nothing to do with Martial Law in the US.
Comprehensive Strategy for Iraq Act of 2007 (HR 645)


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I have to wonder why isn't there a camp here in LA?

If any state other than Texas would have massive dissent towards an overbearing government it would be Louisiana. One would think Texas and LA would be filled with such camps if they were meant for dissenters.

According to this website www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

Texas only has three!

Of those three I can guarantee the Fort Hood one is false and I'm willing to bet almost none of the WW2 camps are being rebuilt, based on Camp Livingston here in LA.

So that leaves one for the whole state of Texas and none for the state of LA.

If these camps exist and their intent is to round up dissenters they will be an utter and complete failure.

If and when the federal government decided to do something so stupid Texas and Louisiana would have them by the balls. Both states are not just energy independent, we are energy providers of natural gas and oil.
Not only that we control and maintain all of the Strategic Petroleum Reserves and the mouth of the Mississippi. Most of the nation's oil refineries are located here.

One would think a region as conservative and patriotic as Texas and Louisiana would have internment camps all over the place. Yet they are missing.

The largest lists on that website are for two states:

Michigan and Georgia.

That tells me if anything, these sites, if they are internment camps, are built to intern angry unemployed people during an Economic collapse such as Union workers.

The two economically strongest states have little to no such suspected sites.

According to the most recent numbers from the Louisiana Workforce Commission, Louisiana added 3,700 jobs in December ’08 — the only state in the nation to experience employment growth that month

www.theind.com...

Even in the midst of the economic crisis we have job growth and we have zero suspected camps.







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