The Reality Of FEMA Camps And The Martial Law Apparatus

The Reality Of FEMA Camps And The Martial Law Apparatus

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There is no doubt that the government is preparing a nationwide system of detention facilities under the guise of emergency management that could be used to house large quantities of Americans during a time of civil strife. Many think that it is a conspiracy theory, but it is not. It is a fact that the federal government has many facilities right now that can be used to house large numbers of political dissidents if the need arises. During World War II, the U.S. government through an executive order by FDR

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With most of the States in the country on the verge of economic collapse and banks refusing to loan money to their Treasury agencies as such in California , we are on the verge of something far worse than the Great Depression. The camps are in place along with Congress proposing H.R. 645. Martial Law and the use of these FEMA Camps is very real.

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Has anyone seen the recent (or a repeat???) show of Jon and Kate plus 8 episode of the kids and parents downstairs playing and experimenting with handcuffs, police sheilds and riot gear????

I am turned off of that family forever playing like that with the parents that egg them on to cuff eachother or threaten/play punish them by being cuffed together if they do not get along. Ending scenes of the father and son playing big cop little cop and the dad pushing the little boy over.

I found that entire episode disturbing.

I agree they would be.

What would you prefer, massive numbers of rioters and looters armed to the teeth robbing/murdering/raping whoever they find allowed to roam free, or having them detained in camps because the prison population is overflowing?

The only thing to worry about is if these camps will be used to control those who merely protest against government.

If there is a mass movement to request a legal and justified replacement of government, these people should not find themselves within such a camp. That is what you need to focus on, not whether these camps will be used, of course they would be.

Southesat missouri has had a lot of looting going on. According to my highway patrol neighbor, we've had some in our area, mainly in town, but some in the country. My wife and I have decided that we never leave the house unattended. Neither of us makes a move without a 9 mm in hand. (mine's sitting right next to my computer.) THe looting and crime are only going to get worse. This is going to be, in my opinion, a year of natural disasters.
Be prepared to protect your family first, yourself second, your possessions last. But if they come in, my personal opinion is shoot first, then call the cops, then ask questions.

Originally posted by detachedindividual
What would you prefer, massive numbers of rioters and looters armed to the teeth robbing/murdering/raping whoever they find allowed to roam free, or having them detained in camps because the prison population is overflowing?

This is a very, very dangerous chain of thought you have there my friend.

Who is going to decide who is a rioter and a looter? Or a terrorist?
What would stop the Federales labeling YOU a rioter?
How would you defend yourself?

"What will it be, Peace... or War?"

-Adolf Hitler, while forcing the Enabling Act of 1933 past the Reichstag.

What if:
These alleged FEMA camps are not meant to keep people in, but to keep them out.
If the majority of the population where to be thrust into chaos by those alleged to be in charge, naturally, those in control (along with support staffing) would become the protected minority.

The truth is stranger than fiction.

Originally posted by MoonMine

Originally posted by detachedindividual
What would you prefer, massive numbers of rioters and looters armed to the teeth robbing/murdering/raping whoever they find allowed to roam free, or having them detained in camps because the prison population is overflowing?

This is a very, very dangerous chain of thought you have there my friend.

Who is going to decide who is a rioter and a looter? Or a terrorist?
What would stop the Federales labeling YOU a rioter?
How would you defend yourself?

"What will it be, Peace... or War?"

-Adolf Hitler, while forcing the Enabling Act of 1933 past the Reichstag.

That's my point! That is what you need to be concerned about.

Will you be deemed to be an "insurgent" or "enemy combatant" merely for protesting against your government?

I won't be, because I'm in the UK.

I entirely agree that these camps will be used in a civil unrest scenario. I get that. I don't dispute it.

But, the principal is that they SHOULD be used to detain truly dangerous people, those who will do harm to others for a few $.
They SHOULDN'T be used to detain protesters who wish to gather outside regional government offices and demand that their leaders stand down.

That is the point I am making here.
People need to really decide if these FEMA camps are such a bad idea.

Personally, they're only a bad idea if those being detained have done nothing to require it. That is why I say that this is what you need to focus on, not the fact that these camps exist, but who will they wish to put in them.

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I think they are designed for that use too, along with evacuation centres for civilians, secure compounds for FEMA staff and materials to deal with a situation, detention of rioters/looters, treatment of victims in an emergency...

They really are multipurpose sites.

Looters will (or at least the authorization will be given to) be shot on sight. The camps that have large commercial ovens may have a multi-purpose function. But there are other ways of killing dissidents besides gas and creamating the remains. Read the article in the most recent US News & World Report re the death camp in Argentina (1976-83).
"Dont cry for (us) Argentina..."

Being stuck in California right now, and have been here for days because a company I was going to do some work for shut down unexpectedly I can tell you from what I've seen and heard through talks with locals this place is already a powder-keg waiting to explode. On top of massive job losses, compounded with the illegal immigration problems, the state is going to send out IOUs (rain-checks) rather than state tax returns/refunds.

I hope the company I work for can get me out of here soon, because unless things change soon for the better at least parts of California could be the first to have to deal with this civil unrest, and start rounding people up and placing them in these FEMA camps.

I've been naysaying the idea of these FEMA camps for the last year, however the one issue that I haven't ever been able to get past is the fact that the razorwire on top of the chainlink fences at these suspected sites points inward. You don't put up razor wire unless you plan to keep people from climbing a fence and you don't point the razorwire inward unless you plan on keeping someone from climbing the fence to get OUT of the fenced area.

Not only does that make me doubt all my naysaying, but it makes the possibillity of these camps being used to keep people out rather than in very unlikely.

So exactly where are these alleged camps? I keep hearing about them but I've never gotten a clear answer as to exactly where they are. Anyone have Google Map coordinates? Pictures? Anything?

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As far as Google goes , you might want to check a previous post of mine.....www.abovetopsecret.com...

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Why wouldnt you want to keep people from climbing out if they've been put their for a reason?

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Well that's what we are unsure of. The inwardly pointed barbed wire could be a measure to contain people, which pose a threat to society, as equally as it could be a way to keep undeserving political dissidents out of action. The point is, these camps wouldn't be built if it weren't for the anticipation of some large scale event. I just don't believe that people will be forced into camps if it were merely for purposes of protection from natural disaster, however large it may be, because in such a scenario it might be more prudent to spread people randomly over a larger geographical space than to place them in a situation where they are most vulnerable. More importantly, who would willingly subject themselves to containment in the naive belief that somehow they would be safer in cramped, box carts?

The configuration of the barbed wire would suggest that people in these camps might attempt to escape frequently. These camps could be used either for the detention of criminals in some apocalyptic scenario, or for the containment of political dissidents in some revolutionary uprising, or even for regular citizens should they appear to object, contradict or comprise the authoritarian direction of the ruling power. Either way, since the government is fully aware that these people will not be placed in these camps according to their will, it is increasingly more apparent that such camps will only assist in some totalitarian agenda. Whether this would be in our best interest, or that such an excuse would be made, is currently unknown.

Does government have the right to make such total contingency plans, regardless of the degree of catastrophe, without the express approval of its citizenry? According to members of this board, the concept itself is justly intolerable.

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Originally posted by unknown known
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Why wouldnt you want to keep people from climbing out if they've been put their for a reason?

That's why we have buildings called prisons in this country. If you break the law, you are sent to prison. What we're looking at where these so-called FEMA camps are concerned is the capacity to potentially detain hundreds of thousands if not millions of people. My concern is this, what does the government expect will happen that will mandate the required concentration and confinement of that many Americans?

It isn't even Constitutional to consider, in my opinion. What scenario would allow the government to Constitutionally incarcerate that many Americans with such a density of people being locked up that modified millitary bases surrounded by razor wire would be needed?

Unless people are breaking fair and justifiable laws, there is NO reason to "put them there" and it is furthermore highly illegal to even lock them up in the first place. By "fair and justifiable laws" I'm not talking about telling the government they suck or stockpiling Constitutionally protected firearms or questioning our supposedly elected overlords, either. Nor am I talking about defending yourself against tyrany.

Recently there has been an operation by the media to make the public believe that FEMA camps do not exist. Glenn Beck has set out an agenda to try to debunk these camps....www.roguegovernment.com...

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Im thinking maybe the US is anticipating a large scale invasion from Mexico in the form of people fleeing their corupt country government and soon to be blood bath from cartels.