Jordan Maxwell - Shattering discovery?

Seriously everyone, haven't we seen enough movies to know what happens to the people who try to channel or manifest nasty beings from the "astrals"?

I think both AJ & Maxwell are being way too damn paranoid. Those mean and nasty symbols and colors they keep crying about aren't the problem. Same goes for numerological symbolism as well (11:11, 911, 222, 333, 8888, etc) those are universal concepts that mean only what you put into them. What's even more disturbing is how all of a sudden geometry is becoming bad too? Like if you see the merkaba, a pyramid, a pentagon/gram, that instantly means evil? D'okay! Whatever...There is actual science that shows for instance that some kind of hyper dimensional energy enters this dimension as geometric waves. You can see manifestations of this on all of the planets in the solar system. For instance the Volcanic activity in Hawaii is at roughly 19.5 degrees too, same with the "dot" on Jupiter. If you trace that energy back you get a double tetrahedron structure inside any given planetary body...a MERKABA(or Star of David drawn in 2D)!? OMG! The planets must be evil too then!!!!!

Then think about what "4th dimensional entity" might be in relation to "pan dimensional" existence. So that means it exists, just not openly in this spectrum or bandwidth of light so that starts getting into two different categories. "Spiritual" beings, and extra terrestrial beings. Both of which do not seem to be points of expertise for either Maxwell or Alex Jones but wow do they ever enjoy speculating on the sensational side don't they?...

Oh and on the logo subject....

Raise your hand if you've ever designed a logo or graphics for a client who wanted something original but "clean & corporate" kind of like political ads; and then watched your more original concept be whittled down to a rehash of every Ford, Honeywell, Pepsi, McDonald's-like blandness that's seen everywhere else...?
-raises hand-

You got to remember, people who don't do art and design, really don't know how to design something "original". Hell look at some of the anthems various nations sing. God Save the Queen & My Country Tis of Thee are the same damn song for instance. That goes to show you that even people who can create original works don't do it more often then not too. So whenever "originality" is brought up in political circles it's best to take that with a grain of salt and shot of tequila...

Don't worry too much about the 4th Dimensionals, "Deus Ex" as Alex called it is definitely in effect in terms of pan dimensionality...

So now remember everyone...don't do anything evil like use the Sun & Earth in your logo


But yeah, "explosive news" would be ; David Gergen & Ben Bernake ate 10 babies last night for dinner and I have pictures to prove it! Let me show you now!

Not, I have a bunch of files on my computer and need time to explain it all out so that you can see this "explosive" information...but of course buy my book and wait for the movie first!


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reply to post by Zepherian


Perhaps you should not mistake ignorance of a subject as knowledge of it's invalidity. Obviously you dismiss the idea out of hand; such is the poison of much of modern thinking. Were he just acting and fear mongering, I don't think I'd have known what he was talking about almost immediately. There are plenty of flags for those who know the same subject to pick up on, scattered through what he says. Research it, then decide if it is of value. Don't dismiss anything in ignorance of it.

One of my few favorite quotes should be something everyone here remembers: "The true mark of the intelligent mind is that ability to entertain any idea without embracing it." if you can't learn it, to entertain it, you can never dismiss it from a stance of knowledge. You can only dismiss it from a blind state of ignorance.

reply to post by Shakesbeer


Youre right; as Alex Jones tends to do, some of this is taken a bit off the map. In Maxwell's case, like I said, I think it's more that the scope of it got him seeing monsters everywhere, and he's taken it to extremes. But the basis he build it on is based on factual things, Im rather certain.

I watched the whole show(thanks to whoever posted it) He does play around here, hinting at a huge thing but not revealing it(at least, not for free)..but his site does have a lot of interesting things..the symbols and their meanings..interesting stuff. He's not completely full of it..just need to pick through it for the nuggets.

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What i saw inmediatly was the connection to 14-10-08 Blossom G prediction. I understand now why -if they even were here- had to abandon plan.
So when is this coming to manstream media? It is almost there.
This people has always interpretate most information as a threat to the USA..until now, now it is a threat to the planet. They see it as a threat others see this as the most fantastic ever.

I welcome this to happen weather it is for bad or for good because if you look at things right now we are finally going under.

reply to post by saturnine_sweet


Oh yeah, we are all starting to see the same thing in terms of who's pull the strings. That's also not to say Alex, Jordan, & David Icke too don't do good work, but you can just see where they get afraid and just sort of wallow in it for awhile.

reply to post by saturnine_sweet


Why do you assume ignorance? I have read reams on this whole occultic agenda angle, and my conclusion, out of my own personal thoughts on the subject, are that it's mind control, it's psychology. That's how it works, that's how it "manifests". If you can trick someone to make you a chair, that chair is real, but it was born out of trickery. This is the extent of the saturnian mystery religions, this is the extent of the egyptian sun cults, this is the reality behind all religions, mystery or not.

True knowledge about reality lies within, not without, trying to give external form to something with internal nature, while great for liars, con men, manipulators, egomaniacs and other such people, is meaningless to the true nature of, well, nature.

This conclusion is not born out of ignorance, I can assure you. Yes, we wil see, probably, the whole armageddon show. But none of it will be "real" imo, just manipulations playing on fear, lights in the sky laid out in the hope that people will atribute significance that is not there. So that they will lend themselves to control. It's always been this way, just that more complex times birth more complex lies.

reply to post by Shakesbeer


Hey nice, I didn't think anyone actually knew about the start of david stuff and the significance of 19.5(33 degrees). I had once thought about making a thread about it, but I figured it would be beyond most people.

I've had to make company logos, and I suck at it. I never used sacred geometry in it, but today I have designers and stuff, and I recently made my designers study up on sacred geometry. They thought I was nuts lol.




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reply to post by Shakesbeer

I think you've put your finger on something here. You never see one of these people go to someone who is a real expert on stuff like this and who knows it from the inside and who is willing to speak anonymously to inform people a little more about these things. There just seems to be a lot of wallowing going on, not so much with Alex Jones, but certainly with Jordan Maxwell.

I could suggest several avenues for people to follow in learning about some of this stuff from an insider, but all of those avenues are for adults who are very mature and sharp. Or at least very committed to spiritual development. One of the problems with getting people to open up about this sort of thing is that the connection between knowledge and power is very close in this area of activity.

Maxwell and Jones are like people standing outside a room saying "There's something going on in there! Something sinister, but I don't really know what it is."

People on the inside of esoteric spiritual traditions only give their teaching to committed seekers. The teachers take on a responsibility to the ones they teach. They would never give specifics to someone like Jordan Maxwell who would then turn around and blast it to all and sundry on the internet.

However, the knowledge and the immunization that knowledge brings, is out there. Sometimes the most innocuous and humble people have it. That is the most hopeful thing about the whole issue. Millions of people around the world have deep spiritual awareness that is at least the equal of the Luciferians among the Illuminati.

If one really wants to fight the agenda of the illuminati though, a book like The Rise of the Fourth Reich, by Jim Marrs, has a very valuable description of the beast being fought. It is drawn in political terms which lend themselves easily to incorporation into an opposition political agenda.

Christianity is primarily interested in faith and ethics with an end of gaining admission to heaven. Faith and ethics come into older spiritual traditions also but the focus to which they and other spiritual practices exercise themselves is the nature of birth, life, death, and rebirth.

For our purposes it is not necessary to lay out these natural facts, but simply to say that in exploring and learning about them a sideroad is uncovered which leads to great personal power and potentially to even greater power available for deployment by groups. This last is the path down which the Illuminati are going.

The people most at risk from this behavior are ordinary non-believing materialists and the innocent and uneducated. Serious spiritual practitioners, say a witch doctor in Africa for example, would be amused by the Illuminati. He'd be very impressed with their material power but unimpressed with them as a spiritual force.

Of course, and this is a very important point, the African witch doctor comes from a place where the playing field has been substantially levelled in his discipline. No one witch doctor is able to control everybody, because there is an expert witch doctor in every village.

I know about this stuff because It has been my lot in life to be directly involved in this convergence of knowledge going on between east and west. The convergence is the thing that most threatens the hold that the Illuminati have on secret knowledge and power.

They have a big problem though. It is very difficult for them to attack the world's leading spiritual disciplines. It would be like attacking a cloud of mosquitoes with a baseball bat. Their only hope is to seize comprehensive physical control of everyone and then try to stamp out the spiritual life of humanity with the exception of their own esoteric cult.

If people pay more attention to Jim Marrs and not so much to Jordan Maxwell, the Illuminati can be thwarted.



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Just finished listening to the interview. Im not sold on it. Why is he holding back the info? at the very least give a little bit of info. I see this as a money making project which is why he wants Alex to be involved as he knows Alex can push it to make some money.

reply to post by Electricneo


Totally agree dude, there's 40 minutes of my life I'll never get back thanks to maxwell.

So what did he actually say to Alex Jones ? Nothing. Symbol, symbol , I been at this 40 years , vast, old, light speed I been researching 40 years. Hollywood want to make me a star, It's monumental symbol.

What ????????? This guy really took the piss out of pulling the curtain back a little, get your money ready Alex !

reply to post by Zepherian


Thats a very...interesting perspective. I don't know that there is much else to say, really. You obviously have a perspective that it is of no value, really, though I can't see as how you can have a deep knowledge of these things and come to that conclusion. I guess its where you look and what your perspective is, going in.

Originally posted by eNumbra
There isn't much explained in these videos, he makes lots of "peel back the curtain" type statements, and they both seem to claim that this is all leading to the 90% execution to begin fusing man with machine and turning us into cyborgs of sorts. But how that was laid into place by the Egyptians... I'll wait till he actually makes the movie he claims he can't make because the subject is just too big.

As we know, history repeats itself.. This time it does it on a way bigger scale than we usualy witness!

It happened before - the vanishing (extermination?) of the Neandertaler and other pre-homo sapiens races and the creation of homo sapiens, a (hybrid) entity, a "new man" developed by the Annunaki ("Adam & Eve" story).

I believe, the Annunaki are still fully monitoring, controlling and operating us, and they must be using us for something we aren't yet aware of (UFO sightings and reports from ancient times till today). We aren't ment to be aware of it - that is the main reason, imo, why the truth about UFOs is so much being kept secret.
And who's behind UFO secrecy? The so called shadow government / Illuminati, who, just like the ancient Pharaos and other high leaders of ancient civilisations probably serve as a proxy between humans and the Annunaki "gods". Thats why today they are still using the same symbolism, which traces back to ancient times, and thats what makes this whole conspiracy so massive and monumental, as mr. Maxwell Jordan says.

I speculate that now, In (very) near future, once again, a "new man", a majorly upgraded man will be "installed" on earth by the Annunaki. And there is nothing anyone of us can do against their plans, and maybe we shouldn't.

Ko3

reply to post by badmedia


It seems more people are being woken up to the hyper dimensional aspect of geometric relationships for various reasons but it's cool to see more & more academic researchers/scientists are coming to the same findings these days. Joseph Farrell is a good example, he has a doctorate from Oxford and talks a lot about hyper dimensional physic and the "4th Reich" Jim Marrs talks about too.

Originally posted by ipsedixit
reply to post by Shakesbeer

 

The people most at risk from this behavior are ordinary non-believing materialists and the innocent and uneducated. Serious spiritual practitioners, say a witch doctor in Africa for example, would be amused by the Illuminati. He'd be very impressed with their material power but unimpressed with them as a spiritual force.

I couldn't agree more on both points and that was well put. I also think those who are unwilling to step outside of their perspectives of "right" & "wrong" based on glib interpretations of dogma alone will have some adjusting to do as well. I use Alex Jones as an example. He keeps talking like he's not a Christian, but what does he instantly reference as being "right" whenever spirituality comes up? Eeyup, Jesus, the bible, the paradigm of god as being only the "good" part of life, etc.

At the same time he'll openly admit knowledge that the bible and all the stories have been "filtered" throughout the ages but is ever so reluctant to get into stuff like ET's & "pan dimensionals", the elements that are in all of the holy doctrines in some form. There's whistle blowers out there who might go on the AJ show to give him some more insight. Especially if that meant trying to inform Alex that not everything is "black & white" in terms of the ET's & "other" & just because someone identifies with universal symbols that doesn't make them a Luciferian...

reply to post by moocowman


lol yeah & I like how Jordan just got done saying before sharing his movie idea how Hollywood was "flooding" everyone with these "evil" symbols...but then says how he knows a lot of people in Hollywood and how he's a source of info for so it's project etc

I don't think these guys hear themselves sometimes...

Originally posted by Shakesbeer

Originally posted by ipsedixit
reply to post by Shakesbeer

 

The people most at risk from this behavior are ordinary non-believing materialists and the innocent and uneducated. Serious spiritual practitioners, say a witch doctor in Africa for example, would be amused by the Illuminati. He'd be very impressed with their material power but unimpressed with them as a spiritual force.

I couldn't agree more on both points and that was well put. I also think those who are unwilling to step outside of their perspectives of "right" & "wrong" based on glib interpretations of dogma alone will have some adjusting to do as well. I use Alex Jones as an example. He keeps talking like he's not a Christian, but what does he instantly reference as being "right" whenever spirituality comes up? Eeyup, Jesus, the bible, the paradigm of god as being only the "good" part of life, etc.

At the same time he'll openly admit knowledge that the bible and all the stories have been "filtered" throughout the ages but is ever so reluctant to get into stuff like ET's & "pan dimensionals", the elements that are in all of the holy doctrines in some form. There's whistle blowers out there who might go on the AJ show to give him some more insight. Especially if that meant trying to inform Alex that not everything is "black & white" in terms of the ET's & "other" & just because someone identifies with universal symbols that doesn't make them a Luciferian...

I know this is a bit off-topic but when did Alex ever talk like he's not a Christian? I listen to his show on a regular basis and he's clearly a Christian, he just keeps saying people shouldn't just pray and hope for the best without taking action.

Any connection with the LHC and the internet starting in 1967?

reply to post by kid_of_3NKi


Okay, I'm not saying the Annunaki aren't a real concept, but it appears to me that everyone gives them way too much damn credit too. Especially considering the testimony of people like ATS's own buddy Sgt. Clifford Stone, or Dan Burisch who talks about pan dimensionals, as well as Dan Sherman. Now Bob Dean will be all with you about the Annunaki being the big-bad-nasties, but I honestly believe he's mistaking and is just being told what he wants to hear by his "source". Especially considering the various activities the various ET races have been engaged in can all be cross referenced in terms of something the Annunaki reportedly did/are doing.

For an awesome comprehensive article about what long time ufo/et research & exo-politics originator Dr. Michael Salla has gathered about the motivations of the known (at the time) extraterrestrial races, I highly recommend giving the below a good read:

A Report on the Motivations and Activities of Extraterrestrial Races – A Typology of the Most Significant Extraterrestrial Races Interacting with Humanity

I don't think the ET/Pan Dimensional issue can be hammered into a neat package right now. There's just too much info us little people out here are just not privy to... including AJ & JM.

Oh yeah a real quick addition to Nibiru and the Annunaki. Comet Neat 200 V1 came by on Feburary 16th of 2003. Should have messed us up and at least dragged Mercury into the sun based on all main stream science...but didn't! It also happened to show up only a week off of the interpretations of the old Sumerian cuneiform(according to Nassim Haramein).

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reply to post by Bullhorn


He removes himself from the "religion" or group of Christianity thinking that somehow absolves him from the contorted aspects of the dogma that he doesn't challenge on his own. So you hear him talking crap on all religions quite often, save for his brand of Christianity apparently. He's said that often enough that he's not a Christian anymore in terms of going to the big church, Sunday bake sales etc, that is what I'm speaking too.