"Thanks, Tobacco: You Killed My Mom"

In REPLY to all the 'Smoker Haters'...

Why is it that when we light up a cigarette that WE have to go outside.
If it bothers you that much, why dont YOU go outside?

I have just as much right standing on the sidewalk smokin a cigarette as you do standing on the sidewalk bitchin about me smokin a cigarette.

I think you non smokers who complain daily about the smokers really need to get a grip on yourselves. Calm Down, Maybe you need a cigarette?

I think the other poster in here was right, us smokers have done everything we could to accomidate you non smokin haters, but it will never be good enough.

I have plenty of friends who dont smoke who never say a word, nor do they care if I smoke around them, not because they are my friends, but because they know its their choice to sit by me while Im smoking.

theres two types of non smokers...
1st type= complaining all the time, saying wah wah , what about meeee?
2nd type= Naw thanks man I dont smoke, but its cool if you do.

theres two types of smokers...
1st type= inhale a big chest full of cancer and blow it right in the 1st type of non smokers face for being annoying.
2nd type= one that will either go outside or put out their cigarette to please others.

I fall in the 1st type of smoker category. =)

A book called "The Easy way to give up Smoking" by Allen Carr helped me quit. The author points out that the physical cravings from stopping only last 5 days. I used to smoke 25 roll ups a day and got chest twinges every half hour. I thought I was going to die. Took a week off work to quit. My hearts as strong as an Ox now.

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If you must smoke: Spinach, Barleygrass and dark leafy greens are very good and help mitgate the damage. Ginger is great. Goji berries are also very healing.- David Wolfe, Shazzie, and the Raw Food Movement.

Good luck and bless everyone suffering from this terrible disease.

reply to post by Mynaeris


Do you wear perfume or use hairspray? Perfume and hairspray give me migraines! So as soon as you stop wearing perfume and using hairspray, I will stop walking past you with a cigarette.

fair enough?

I hate this "I'm addicted" excuse.

I drank like a fish and smoked like a chimney for 15 years peppered with a lot of pot a little coc aine some acid and ecstasy and just stopped.

I figured if I wanted to accomplish anything I couldnt be drunk and wheezing all the time.

It took about two weeks for the craving to go away and except for a cup of coffee in the morning (two on Saturdays) I'm drug free (excluding the garbage that's pumped into the water supply) and have been for six years now with no inkling to return to the useless state of intoxicant consumer.

So, either the lot of you dont want to stop doing the things you complain about doing or I have special super-powers and should be autopsied by government agents.

Stop passing blame, accept that you suck, then stop sucking. Only you can prevent your own stupidity.

reply to post by TasteTheMagick


No I am not going to die but I am going to be inconvenienced and start coughing and wheezing for the next 5 minutes. Does that concern you in any way? I have never smoked in my life, during a recent trip to Egypt to see the pyramids etc I landed up in hospital after a week in Cairo with "smokers lung". My rather expensive vacation messed up as I spent the next couple of weeks coughing. So don't tell me it's innocuous.

reply to post by Common Good



Who is committing the anti-social act? Me for not smoking? So I should be penalized? Show me the statistics saying that second hand non-smoking is hazardous for your health. Please at least have a valid argument.

I lost both parents..my mother, in 2001, she was 57, and my father, 2007 he was turning 60...both smokers, they smoked Kool ciggarettes mostly,(menthols), but alot of my fathers teen and twenty-years, he smoked non filtered lucky strikes...i too am a smoker: ( Both had tumors in thier lungs, and were walking around with it, and didnt realize it was tumors...
In a sense, yes they are cancer sticks*** it is slow suicide. BUT, i disagree, with you take responsability for your actions... the reason.. nicotine is 5 times more powerful than Heroin! it dosnt have the same side effects heroin does...thats a medical fact. Nicotine is that addictive. I remmber my fist ciggarette, i was 18, it was marlboro lights...had one, and immediatly i was so relaxed, brain numb and made me feel SO good...now i hate them, becuase it is hard to quit... smokers brains and bodys, need that nicotine, just like a drug. And the ciggarettte comapnys know all this....and yet, thier in the game of making profit... i blame the nicotine, keeping people addicted so they can keep reeping profits...
Thier are in fact, over 500 different chemicals used in the process of making a ciggarette, all you have to do, is google this in online,a nd yuor bound to find 2 or 3 ingreideint lists..all ranging from licorice and ammonia to formaldyahide, industrial waste, aluminium, and laboratory named chemicals.

Originally posted by Mynaeris
Can you explain how my whining is injurious to your health? Your smoking affects everybody in your environment not just you. Smokers always feel it's their rights that they are protecting. You're depriving me of my rights to be healthy.

You're rights end where the tip of my cigarette begins.

If you don't like my smoke, move away from me. Smokers have been banished to the great outdoors all over the country now, and some idiotic laws even have a specified distance you must stand away from the entrance of buildings..

reply to post by disgustedbyhumanity


Your argument is weak and contrived. But I don't think anybody has worn hairspray in at least 20 years. Regarding perfume - do you think the smell of nicotine that clings to your hair and clothes is a delight?

reply to post by Mynaeris




People can always take the bus,train,aeroplane,a rocket for the moon but they don't.Instead of each family buying one or two cars,people actually could demand from their gonverments better transportations but i can't really talk about this without bringing up citizens and the things they should be doing but they don't.

reply to post by Mynaeris


You are being ridiculous and repeating the same argument over and over again. I'm not going to sit here and argue with you over something this silly. See Common Good's postings for my opinion.

Everything is addicting ....look at Dr Pepper drinkers ...when my hubby and I went to Mexico for 9 days on a vacation once ..they did not have Dr Pepper ..all they had was Mr Pibbs .....so he wouldnt drink anything but water etc ....
He had withdrawls so bad that I thought he was gonna lose it ...and he even got sick ....as in throwing up ...he drinks about 6 a day here at home (he cant live without it ) he also takes goody powders daily for no reason about three a day ....(he says he is trying to keep his blood thin so he wont have heart problems like his relatives did) .....but he quit one time for a week ..and was a total basket case .....so he started back ..he is addicted ...
So should he blame all these addictions on someone else ?
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Can men blame the porn industry for making them addicted to sex ..
Can women blame chocolate candy factories for making them get zits ...and gain weight ...
Can everyone blame casinos for their gambling addictions ..
etc ...etc ..

Is At&T to blame for my internet addiction ..or maybe its all your faults for luring me in making me read your crap lol .............

[edit on 27-1-2009 by Simplynoone]

Im not sure what this thread was intended to be but as usual it turned out to be a thread of smokers and non-smokers arguing.

For the people who blame smokers for putting the non-smokers health at risk....

Just as the smoker is responsible for their own health, you are responsible for yours.

Instead of blaming the smoker for increasing your health risk, perhaps you should understand that it is something legal that they are doing and therefore their right. Perhaps your arguement should be directed elsewhere. I understand it is a hassle to live around it but you can also take steps to correct it.

Remember that auto emissions, industry emissions etc are also contributing to your decline in health... what are you doing there? Are you complaining about that as well? Not all people that are inflicted/killed by lung cancer is in relation to smoking.

What steps have you taken to improve your health risks? There are states that have made smoking illegal indoors, within certain distance of businesses and public places... etc. Perhaps you should take responsibility for your health and take steps to move to one of these states. Where a mask if you are that concerned.

YOU are responsible for your health and cannot blame someone else that is actiing within the law.

For those that smoke...

I completely understand the addiction there as I once smoked and found it VERY hard to quit.

Be considerate of those that do not smoke.

Other than that, you are operating within the law and you are responsible for your own health. I hope that those of you that would like to quit, are successful in that

my opinion on smoking...

I lost my father to lung cancer. I quit smoking 18 months ago and still go through withdrawals. It is a drug... just as any other drug. I believe that alchohol is also a drug. I think that all drugs should be illegal.... or all drugs should be legal. not some legal and some illegal... who decides what addictions are ok and which are not... its rediculous. Drugs are illegal because they come with a high risk of death?? well so does alcohol and tobacco.

If we are to take responsibility for our own health, then I say legalize all of it and let people be responsible. Otherwise make it all illegal so that we can then blame others.

Everyone has the right to disagree of course

Just my spare change.

I started smoking at the age of 13. There was no government agency telling us that tobacco was bad for us. Only our parents told us not to smoke even if they smoked.

In less than a month I will be 62 years young. As of midnight December 31, 2008 I have not touched a cigarette. That makes it 27 days since i have smoked.

It has not been easy. But it has been worth depriving myself of an addiction I enjoyed. I already feel like a new person physically and mentally.

I made up my mind that I would no longer pay the tobacco companies to kill me and make me unhealthy.

As to be expected I have gained 8 pounds. But I know I can diet and be any weight I wish to be because I have quit the worst addiction I've ever had.

I understand smokers and now I have a better understanding of non smokes. But I'm not going to down grade or be hateful to anyone that chooses to smoke.

And at no time did anyone from a tobacco company force me to smoke. That was my choice.

reply to post by LLoyd45


I have a notebook file with sentences i liked reading here in ATS (funny and not) and i'm planning somehow to post em or something.

"You're rights end where the tip of my cigarette begins. " That goes in my list.


Btw,offcourse there will be the user's nick who wrote it too.

Originally posted by ziggy1706
In a sense, yes they are cancer sticks*** it is slow suicide. BUT, i disagree, with you take responsability for your actions... the reason.. nicotine is 5 times more powerful than Heroin! it dosnt have the same side effects heroin does...thats a medical fact. Nicotine is that addictive. I remmber my fist ciggarette, i was 18, it was marlboro lights...had one, and immediatly i was so relaxed, brain numb and made me feel SO good...now i hate them, becuase it is hard to quit... smokers brains and bodys, need that nicotine, just like a drug. And the ciggarettte comapnys know all this....and yet, thier in the game of making profit... i blame the nicotine, keeping people addicted so they can keep reeping profits...
Thier are in fact, over 500 different chemicals used in the process of making a ciggarette, all you have to do, is google this in online,a nd yuor bound to find 2 or 3 ingreideint lists..all ranging from licorice and ammonia to formaldyahide, industrial waste, aluminium, and laboratory named chemicals.

Please take a look at the sides of your cigarette pack.. The one I'm holding plainly states" "Warning: Smoking Is Addictive. On the other side it says: Surgeon General's Warning: "Smoking Causes Lung Cancer, Heart Disease, Emphysema, And May Complicate Pregnancy.

Which part of the health risks disclosure did you not understand when you bought them? That's the problem with today's litigious society. Nobody is willing to accept responsibility for their own personal choices and actions. It's must be someone else's fault..

reply to post by LLoyd45



My rights end where your cigarette ends? So you use smokeless tobacco? Idiotic laws? Come one - laws are passed because the majority of people agree with them.

reply to post by Mynaeris


Perfume is no less offensive to me than my smoke is to you. How do you think it is ok to subject me to your perfume, while it is not ok to subject you to my cigarette smoke? because you think perfume smells good? I think cigarettes smell good. You are demanding a double standard based on your personal preference. Unfortuantely society has gone along with it hook line and sinker.

As far as your vacation illness, there are far many more likely reasons for your chest condition than being exposed to second hand smoke.

I also truly believe that you are either cancer prone or not. If you are prone you will get cancer whether you smoke or not. If you are not prone you can smoke your whole life through and not get any hint of cancer.

Originally posted by Oceanborn
reply to post by LLoyd45

 

I have a notebook file with sentences i liked reading here in ATS (funny and not) and i'm planning somehow to post em or something.

"You're rights end where the tip of my cigarette begins. " That goes in my list.

Btw,offcourse there will be the user's nick who wrote it too.

feel free to quote me, but be sure it's in context.

If they had not taken you smokers out of the buildings in my country when they did - I would have done it myself!

Now I can go to the f'in pub down the road and not have a damn migraine when I leave - still stinkin' of your corporate masters poison.

You have no rights - smoke in your f'in house or your f'in car - when you smoke in the wild you take your chances with the things that lurk in the wild.

Eventually someone with the know-how will take a step over the line, due to Tobacco, that will shock thew world.

It won't be me, however, but I certainly entertained the idea...