Before you watch more porn, you need to know this

Rev2012! I accidentally U2U'd you... I meant to post this publically...Dnt worry, I've watched plenty of vids in my time, just grown out of it...

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Yep, some get paid really good money.

Have you read any of the stories in the link? A lot of them do suffer.

At the bottom end of the scale girls are getting like 150-200 a scene and are desparate. Max hardcore should be in gaol. And it is as bad as cancer because AIDS is rampant in the industry, not to metion all sorts of other diseases.

Good luck to your friend. If s/he could dip in and out quick that's fine. No pun intended.

I actually don't have a problem with porn *in theory*. It's been around for millenia. If someone wants to exhibit themselves, or document non-abusive sex between two (or three) people then that's fine, it's art. It's just in practice it's not working out like that. Disease, abuse and exploitation are rife.

EDIT: I agree 100 per cent asmall89. I think if something is tasteful that's fine. Who am I to judge if something's tasteful? No one. It's subjective. But abusive behaviour and exploitation can be judged more objectively.
I've watched plenty of porn myself. I stopped A) because I read articles like the one posted above. B) I'm actually behind the Chinese firewall now, most porn isn't let through. It's actually really refreshing. I'm glad I don't waste time watching that crap any more. It's bad for the spirit. There's nothing wrong at all with looking at the natural beauty of hawt models though.


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each day 35,000 children die of starvation

and you want to cry for poorn stars,,,who willingly show up to work,,,,and get paid ,,,,and can make up to 5,000 dollars for a one day shoot

maybe your next thread can be on the poor prostitutes,,, because they make much less,,, and some are killed afterward


on my list of bad things this is pretty far down

Yes that's true Shortywarn, in the grand scheme of things it is pretty far down. I agree, and the media does make a big fuss about little things while ignoring the African holocaust.

Compared to mass starvation, everything pales into insignificance- cancer, car accidents, someone getting beaten up in the street...

My point about people's general indifference still stands though.


P.S. *Up to* 5 grand. this is very rare. There's planty who make 2-3 hundred.




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but, as others said,,, they do sign contracts first,,, willingly,,,,,,they could have stopped at mcdonalds and filled out an application,,,,,but they didn't


and besides,,,,most do it for years,,,,,get out then



and besides,,, those posting pathetic to the OP.....you have an opinion on it because------guess what----your watching it,,,,so your as bad as those yoiur trying to convert


however,,,,, i will admit to this,,,, watching porn,,, where your exact fantasy is on video,,, with whatever type of girl you find attractive,,, and wearing your fantasy outfit ,,, in your fantasy location
can make regular old sex boring and complicate things,,,,,the girlfriend or the sex never equal up to that fantasy or the porn clips


and with girls with perfect 10 bodies,,,, i am guilty of being picky and judging in real life


i'm logging out,,,,,sorry all you suffering, rich,,, lexus driving,, porn stars

guess where i'm heading

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to bed haha


you all have some sick minds

We can feel sorry for the mistreatment of the people involved in the pornographic industry all we want but as long as people support porn with their dollars and the demand is there the supply will be there too.

The people who buy pornographic material (movies, magazines, websites, etc.) are the ones who make the industry so I think that we should examine them (ourselves).

Porn is there to stimulate our sexual desire, the strongest desire within us (aside from survival perhaps). This is pleasurable to us but I think it's just a fix like a drug only it's a drug that we all have a craving for. I don't think it is so innocent at all.
I've partaken, however I still don't think it's 'proper' or 'right' to watch other human beings having sex with the aim to get ourselves sexually aroused by it.

I take issue with how people are so quick to make light of porn, "Hey I watch porn sometimes, it's enjoyable, no big deal." However, do we really understand how viewing other people having sex effects us and our psyche? How it affects our sex drive, how we subconsciously view women, each other, sex itself, etc.?

Originally posted by cybertroy
Let me clarify things with my history in porn watching. I don't recall anything really all that good coming from watching porn. The times I have watched it, many times, I have not been a good person to be around. I have taken paths I shouldn't have taken. Desires became more bizarre. The more I watched, the more I got into weirder stuff.

Porn was something I sometimes turned to get my fix, so I could feel some "happiness." It gave me a "fix," you might say, usually followed by regret. Porn did nothing to help me. It just helped dig the hole deeper.

I can no longer go back to porn, I would be supporting outright insanity, doing so.

I am building more and more love and respect for my fellow man (and ladies), and they love me back. Porn isn't love. Porn many times shows a hatred toward women. It's unacceptable as entertainment.
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Let me be the first and I might be the only one to say. Well done and well said.

Takes a lot to say something like you have but most will not understand.

We live in a world of id say 75% zombie like so people in all areas of life, if you get me.

This site is meant to be about finding out the facts but despite the facts we still have people saying its fine.

Welcome to humanity.

Sometimes being right makes the problem worse, not better.

I do agree with other posts stating that Pornography is part of a much larger problem.

Pat on the back OP.



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Originally posted by HiAliens
The majority of responses on this thread are: LOL, whatever, so what, who cares, it's their choice, what the hell, so what, or something similar..

I've watched porn, I think about 80 per cent is abusive. Not all of it is though.

The point is; The coldness and indifference to other people's suffering most of the responses display is the reason society is messed up like it is.

So by this logic I should feel bad for professional boxers and football players and lacross players. All of those professions are based on the participants beating the living crap out of each other.

When watching football do we say, "Awww, those poor undereducated young men."?

NO. Because they have a choice of profession and if they don't like it they can do something else. How is porn different?

Vas

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I'm sorry but I fail to see how a person becoming extremely wealthy doing something enjoyable is bad.

This is all about personal choice.

I might choose to smoke, I might choose to drink, I might choose to watch porn.
We all make choices in our lives and if we're not happy we change things. From what I see of the porn industry, the majority of those within it are having fun, are happy, are making a lot of money.

If they choose to take drugs, so be it, it's their body. If they choose to have dangerous sex, so be it, it's their body.
While I may not agree with the choices some people make, as long as it isn't affecting others negatively, it's their choice.

I've had sexual partners who enjoy porn. It was fun, it didn't damage our friendship/relationship at all, it was an enjoyable aspect of a healthy sex life. So what applies to one group of people doesn't actually mean that everyone is the same.
Maybe I've been lucky in my choice of partners, but none of them have had any radical view of porn, just like me they see a lot of people doing a job they enjoy and making a lot of money for it.

I think this comes down to one thing, just because you don't imagine how a person can enjoy something doesn't mean that they are being coerced, forced or convinced in some way.

An on the "unnatural" comment, unnatural doesn't exist. If it did, it wouldn't be unnatural as it couldn't "exist in nature" if it were. Nothing is unnatural, only "unacceptable" based on social or personal belief.

Porn’s awesome! What else can I say about it? Just bloody fantastic. Thank goodness I wasn’t born a hundred years ago when porn of this magnitude wasn’t around. THANK YOU INTERNET!

Nah but, there are some bad things about it but I guess you have to take in the good with the bad. I mean without internet porn there’d be no 2 girls 1 cup! One of the greatest things to have ever been conjured up by lesbians. Go SCAT!!

Originally posted by detachedindividual
I've had sexual partners who enjoy porn. It was fun, it didn't damage our friendship/relationship at all, it was an enjoyable aspect of a healthy sex life. So what applies to one group of people doesn't actually mean that everyone is the same.

I totally agree with you, I watch porn with my girlfriend on the odd occasion and its never had an adverse effect on our relationship or sex life for that matter. Its good to get a few ideas or keep the "spice" alive.

Im thinking that the people that have problems with it, have much deeper problems within themselves rather than blaming it on porn.

And to the Op, maybe you should watch a documentary or two about behind the scenes of the pornagraphy industry, you will probably be pleasently surprised at how proffesional it is.

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Thanks for posting this. Its about time someone spoke out.

I'm now single, my ex's (both of them) went off cheating like little floating dandylions and didn't give a crap about me or our relationship.

I admit that l watch some porn. I know its not exactly healthy for one to do so, but a guy needs a vent from all that pent up testosterone we accumulate. I don't have a girlfriend yet and so I'm stuck with my only means of visual reminders.

With 2012 stuff coming at us at light speed, I doubt I'll find myself in the sack with a buxxom chick anytime soon.

Wait.
These people that you see in films - they're actors and actresses, right?
That means it's not real; they're just playing a part.
So the woman that doesn't like the hot paste in the face, do you think she read the script? I'm pretty certain they have at least a general outline of what they have to do. So who is at fault if they go ahead and do it anyway???
You're talking about people whose talents are having a big sausage and some plastic breasts, and their ability get it on in front of a camera crew - that's pretty much about it.

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Porn is trash and the people who watch it aren't looking to grow from it. Not mentally anyway. The thing that gets me about porn is that these stars as you call them put themselves in these situations and say they need the money or just want the fame. They can easily leave the industry just the same as they entered. It's a choice that one makes but then later complains about it. Just like drugs, alcohol or a low paying job. They should of gotten a life in the first place or made better choices.

Porn is great.
It doesn't in anyway teach the young that love means that she will do anything you want.
It doesn't matter that school girls are having multiple partners to be popular due to the sex education the males and some females get from the net.
It in no way harms people who have been put on the internet because of a bit of fun they had during a relationship that ended and he/she decided to get revenge and post their home movie.
It doesn't hurt that in a lot of cases these actors have left home due to abuse and needed money to survive and then feed their drug habit they took up to ease the pain.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy watching more erotica type adult entertainment than hard porn.
I mean, there is just something that isn't there, I watched all types when younger and even dated a stripper, that was when my eyes where truley opened.
She wasn't easy, she didn't sleep around, but what she did know is that men will pay big money to see a set of boobs that you could see at the beach for free, she also knew that if she promised to show more if the money came out, the money always came out.

so watching her strip was fun, but watching guys hand over hard earned money for a look at her body which they would never touch was even more fun.

so people out there who really enjoy your porn, because at the end of the night, you are either with a person you love that you can hold, or you are looking at what you think a woman should be,
but if you are thinking about the porn star when with your partner, remember that she may be thinking of someone else too.

I prefer to know I am with my wife because I love her, not because she will perform strange acts you see on the net.

Originally posted by cybertroy

....I want you to think real hard about the content in these links before you put in another porn movie. Someone on the other end, in porn land, could be suffering. All so you can get off on it. Make your choice wisely.

I've made my choice. PORN.

how many jobs do you know, where the person doing it is truly truly enjoying it. The bottom line is most people don't enjoy their jobs. Thats why you're paid to do it. And Porn is no different. Those actors make good money, damn good money. And yes some of them may not be as into it as they would have you believe, but thats called acting. and I bet anyone with a job "acts" like they like their boss, co-workers, clients, etc. etc. its the same thing.

so I say good day to you sir!

I SAID GOOD DAY!!!!

I know its terrible,the filth that people watch these days is absurd! what happened to the days of old were a handshake was enough to arouse men and woman,terrible terrible times.Forget the wars,forget the world hunger,we must as a human race stand together against this atrocity,for only then can we stand side by side as brothers and sisters in this world and say with one loud voice "Never again!"

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This is from Shelley Lubben´s bio, found here.

Despite the fact that women do not enjoy making porn movies, they continue to lie to their fans and proudly insist they enjoy making porn movies. Of course they do. They get paid hundreds and thousands of dollars to lie because this is their occupation. Porn stars are paid professional liars who know how to "act" and they do it well. In fact, because porn stars spend a great deal of time in front of the camera and never step out of character, they usually have greater acting abilities than mainstream Hollywood actors.

I used to brag endlessly to fans and pornographers about my extreme "Italian" sex drive and how I loved making porn movies. I would go on and on about how I needed more and more to fulfill my insatiable appetite. I lied 100% of the time to 100% of the people. Lying is the native language of porn stars because they can't afford to tell you the truth. Not only would it ruin the fantasy for their fans but more importantly, it would ruin the amount of their paychecks. Don't believe porn actresses when they proudly proclaim they enjoy making porn movies. They're ACTING.

Hundreds and thousands of dollars

No wonder so man young people join the industry...fame, fortune, parties and sex is what they are after. Im sure many manage to stay clean from drug abuse and STD´s during their "career" but the wast majority ends up damaged for life if they survive.

Every angle of bailout or sellout of our tax money has gone to companies with links to mob style secret society fleecing of AMERICA AND THE WORLD. Its a BOONDOGGLE, for POWER OVER RESOURCES.

DESPERATE MEN RUNNING FROM A FUTURE SEEN WHICH IF WE DONT IMMEDIATELY INSTALL ELECTROGRAVITY INTO OUR SOCIETY, WE MAY ALL DIE. SORRY FOR THE BAD NEWS.

Why do you see the UFOs, or D.U.M.B bases. Its all part of a mentality.

Easy to read and obvious in nature.