Before you watch more porn, you need to know this

reply to post by killacaboose

You'd be surprised how many people to watch the rough stuff. I am dating a submissive and he likes pain, he says the hormonal surge feels like he is drugged but there is a huge difference between what you see in films and what is really done. If anyone actually beat people or used excessive force like in the movies the whole room would jump in and administer justice! The real stuff is mostly controlled breathing and manipulation of physical sensation. Not my thing but whatever.

I love porn but I'm suspicious about some of the foreign stuff; there doesn't seem to be a shortage of American women who want to be in a film though from what I've seen hanging around the art film crowd. Or ugly ass straight men....all the really good looking ones are gay!

Have a read off this threadwww.abovetopsecret.com...

It is the closest thing to describe what the best sex off your life is ever going to be. It is even better when you connect to the universal love grid with your twin flame. I know what everyone is missing ner ner ner ner.

reply to post by meadowfairy


smells like.... psudo-science!

its nice for you to pretend that the world is magical and love is this super force which rules all the others with truth and light... but the world isn't like that really is it?

we evolved from animals and have a biological desire to pleasure ourselves and procreate -one type of sex isn't better than anouther, if it feels good just do it.

the mind is complex, we choose what we like, what makes us feel good -its a complex process but fairly easy to trick yourself into thinking you like something you don't (see advertising) or that you are feeling something you aren't.

Love is a biological illusion, if a person was to understand the biological process and discover that brain function and reported pleasure could be increased by getting their partner to cause them pain or humiliate them then whats the difference between that and this 'pure love' which is holy and soft and made better with candles and rose pettles?

what if someone only feels the same happyness you feel with your other flame when they're with 6-10 large greasy bikers? or alone with porn?

what if you dont need another half? what if you really really like porn the more than any woman on the planet - why do you assume your magic '2people in love =the best' on what grounds is this true?

Originally posted by NatureBoy
reply to post by meadowfairy

 

smells like.... psudo-science!

its nice for you to pretend that the world is magical and love is this super force which rules all the others with truth and light... but the world isn't like that really is it?

we evolved from animals and have a biological desire to pleasure ourselves and procreate -one type of sex isn't better than anouther, if it feels good just do it.

the mind is complex, we choose what we like, what makes us feel good -its a complex process but fairly easy to trick yourself into thinking you like something you don't (see advertising) or that you are feeling something you aren't.

Love is a biological illusion, if a person was to understand the biological process and discover that brain function and reported pleasure could be increased by getting their partner to cause them pain or humiliate them then whats the difference between that and this 'pure love' which is holy and soft and made better with candles and rose pettles?

what if someone only feels the same happyness you feel with your other flame when they're with 6-10 large greasy bikers? or alone with porn?

what if you dont need another half? what if you really really like porn the more than any woman on the planet - why do you assume your magic '2people in love =the best' on what grounds is this true?

Im not basically talking about 2 people in love. I'am talking what science cannot understand, interpret or discover in humans terms. Im tlaking about all the porn feelings and fantasies you get all rolled into one. The best sex off your life. When i connected to the grid with my partner im talking about every single part of your fantasy and desires fullfilled rolled into one. Im talking about the ultimate noone will really experience till they trully find it.

Whether you believe in the metaphsical, spiritual universal side to this world is your choice and a choice i gladly made for myself. I know what ultimate sex is now and i dont need porn to fulfill an orgasm. I get beyond orgasm. I dont need my partner to be hot, well endowed etc etc we are both one body he merged with my body. Now cna you guess why its the ultimate especailly with your twin soul. Twin soul for the last time is not a soul mate. It is you, you other half not just a mate. Another clarification is my husband's body is not my twin it is just a vehicle but his soul is me and i him. It makes it all the m ore special that his body is not me lol. Another clarification is that the merging off the 2 souls happens during sex. It is and always will be the sex that noone will want to really talk about but keep to themselves as not many people understand it.


Ok im done now, you's can all get back to the topic.

[edit on 15-1-2009 by meadowfairy]

reply to post by meadowfairy


haha of course you know the magical answer to the question, some spirit power has given you the only right answer.

what if someone else reaches the same, or a higher feeling of joy though being beaten? or looking at porn? why isn't that as right as your answer/

why can only two people create this holy union? what if it works better with three? what if not everyone works like you?

how are you sure your answer is the only one?

Originally posted by NatureBoy
reply to post by meadowfairy

 

haha of course you know the magical answer to the question, some spirit power has given you the only right answer.

what if someone else reaches the same, or a higher feeling of joy though being beaten? or looking at porn? why isn't that as right as your answer/

why can only two people create this holy union? what if it works better with three? what if not everyone works like you?

how are you sure your answer is the only one?

Because there is nothing more grand then to have God give you your twin soul so that you feel complete.

reply to post by meadowfairy


Sorry but you've shifted the discussion from something that is real; brain function, conditioning and programming/reprogramming of the mind into some new age spiritualist pseudo erm, I won't call it science as there's nothing scientific about it. Nature boy has got it, you don't seem to understand and miss the point completely.

What you are describing as the 'truth' is only true for you, it may be completely different for others - your mind has created the 'twin flame' construct inside your head and that's fine. However, don't claim it as some divine universal truth that only you and the elite few in the know can appreciate. Those 8 sadomasochists having their gangbang are feeling the same for all you know, to claim otherwise is arrogant and foolish.

Originally posted by meadowfairy
Because there is nothing more grand then to have God give you your twin soul so that you feel complete.

Ho hum. Not much to say besides your conditioning has blinded you, I wish you all the best though but don't preach to us. Thank you.

Originally posted by Goathief
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Sorry but you've shifted the discussion from something that is real; brain function, conditioning and programming/reprogramming of the mind into some new age spiritualist pseudo erm, I won't call it science as there's nothing scientific about it. Nature boy has got it, you don't seem to understand and miss the point completely.

What you are describing as the 'truth' is only true for you, it may be completely different for others - your mind has created the 'twin flame' construct inside your head and that's fine. However, don't claim it as some divine universal truth that only you and the elite few in the know can appreciate. Those 8 sadomasochists having their gangbang are feeling the same for all you know, to claim otherwise is arrogant and foolish.

That's cool if your mind was conditioned to believe that only science is reality.

It is true it is my experience and im quite happy about it.

Anyhow it is 78degFa where i live so will be going for a swim and wont be back in this thread as i have gone off topic i admit that lol.

reply to post by meadowfairy


Who said I only believed in science as reality? You're assuming far too much... your holier than thou attitude is very grating. In the meantime I am going to watch some grotty amateur porn with my wife and thoroughly enjoy ourselves while achieving spiritual enlightenment at the same time. At least that was partially on topic, hey.

[edit on 15-1-2009 by Goathief]

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thanks, now back to the real world.

can sexual experience with your own body open you to a wider understanding of your own body functions?

i dont think you ever stop learning about your body, unless you ignore whats really happening, by getting to know your hormones are you getting to know to know yorself better?

here's why i think this... most the christian anti masterbation lit i;ve read (too much) such as the stuff on the pink cross site in the op, talk of a massive guilt feeling after completing the deed, i remember this from when i was still repressed but don't get it now.

i'm also a very level headed guy, i don't get scared easily, don't get angry with people and I view myself objectively (as painful as that is) plus i have very good control over when i sleep, when i am active and when im hungry -basically i'm saying that i'm in touch with my hormones.

i don't think this is just because of masterbation, i have always tried to understand my body and in that respect understanding how masterbation affects my mind and how my mind affects masterbation has helped develop that understanding greatly.

Blowin' up stuff.
That's what real American movies are about.

I think some of the popularity of porn has to do with the Prudish nature of American society. You can't talk about sex on TV, or in public. But you CAN talk about blood, guts and gore. You can make movies about people getting cut in half by a psycho, and it gets a PG rating..But if somebody shows a nipple, that's an immediate R rating.
So, sex is a societal taboo. Don't talk about it, just surf the web when nobody is looking. People love to engage in those societal taboos, they just don't talk about it much.

Sex= creation process=Bad
Violence=destruction process=Good.

See, we all get screwed, one way or another!

BTW, Stuntmen are abused for money in those blood, guts, and gore movies. So it's about money, always.

Spacedoubt,

Funny observation. I have observed that myself. Seeing a sex scene is more frowned upon than people getting hacked to death by Jason.

Sex scenes are the worse when you have to endure through them with your parents around, though. But throw in a bloody chainsaw, and you might as well give it a PG rating. People are funny about things.

"Thank god those 2 lovers stopped groping each other and Freddy slashed them to pieces."

As much acting, though, that goes on in porn, there are some bad things that do happen. It's not really a movie. People do numb themselves to actually get through the filming. It kind of tells me that it's tearing at their morals, and it hurts them. You won't have much of a society left if you tear out all the morals.

And there is a big difference in playful wrestling with your lover, and having some crazy rape sex, where you are beating on them.

My wife isn't going to get treated like garbage to satisfy a twisted fantasy. Not married by the way, just putting that out there when I do get married again.

Troy

[edit on 16-1-2009 by cybertroy]

Originally posted by cybertroy
As much acting, though, that goes on in porn, there are some bad things that do happen. It's not really a movie. People do numb themselves to actually get through the filming. It kind of tells me that it's tearing at their morals, and it hurts them. You won't have much of a society left if you tear out all the morals.

It isn't telling you that at all -- that's what you're choosing to interprete from it. It isn't 'tearing' at their morals, it's tearing at yours. These people have a choice -- and they choose to do it.

You don't like it, and that's fine, that's your opinion and your right to have it - of that I certainly would never question. But you're implying that porn can destroy society.

And there is a big difference in playful wrestling with your lover, and having some crazy rape sex, where you are beating on them.

Of course it is -- the two are not connected in any way - what is the point of that comparison? You're using words to illicit the connotations you want associated with porn in a subversive way. You're putting something people do and enjoy for fun, "playful wrestling with your lover" which emotes fun, sexy, enjoyable, to the emotions of the statement "crazy rape sex, where you are beating on them". tsk tsk...

reply to post by cybertroy

"I based a lot of what I know about sex on porn movies."
That says a lot more negative about Text than about porn, sort of like if I said I based my knowledge of astrophysics on Star Trek or international relations on 24.

I don't care for porn, I am rather disdainful of those people who want to consider it an "art" or think that it is as legitimate as all other media...

BUT, its not true that everyone in it is in a form of sexual slavery. Performers for "mainline" porn companies like Vivid are probably only as likely to be addicted to any type of drug as your average legitimate TV/movie actor. I'd agree that porn is generally ... yucky (sorry, can't do better than that for less than book-length), but many of the arguments for condemnation is also not true. Yeah I'd wish it would go away and no I don't really think that the stuff labeled "adult" represents truly healthy adult sexual attitudes, but I don't think most of it is truly dangerous to the Republic or society.


AND P.S.-- The "porn bailout" idea is simply something that a few of big porn makers have promoted to get their names in print and remind people they are there. I seriously doubt even the most wacked of them expects anything, and I actually doubt the big porn makers are facing more than a minor dip in profitability rather than the ruin happening to other businesses.

reply to post by cybertroy


we all know that most of the girls dont enjoy it most of the time. but clearly thay do it for a reason! and that reason my friend is simple. its called money! money makes the world go 'round. its unfortionate but true. sadly enough these girls dont have the self respect to go out and get a respectable job so thay choose to do porn instead.. if u ask me its there own fault. and for one i hope thay dont enjoy it, i hope it hurts and i hope thay cant look at themselfs in the mirror at night. than maybe thay will make a change in there life and do something to be proud of instead. server them right in my eyes for being dirty tramps.

reply to post by cybertroy


Ok. Good topic! I've got a theory that may be well received on this site... why would anybody ever pay for internet porn when so many sites are available for free?
Reverse that question: Why are there so many FREE PORN SITES???
When the government has it's hand in everything, why is porn completely unregulated?

My theory: When people watch porn, which is highly addictive, they begin to feel disconnected from their spouses or mates, etc. Love is the unifying thread on the planet that keeps us afloat. More love = more harmony = less malevolence = peace.
You can kill the body with cigarettes, weaken the spirit with oppression, discourage the mind with confusion/fear, but how does one go about disconnecting the human race from its loving nature? Widespread, free PORN.

I'm not a religious nut case. I'm not paranoid. But, ask yourself this...
after you watch porn, do you want to fu*k your mate or make love to your mate?
Or, worse case scenario, none of the above?

I think that's the ultimate goal... it's obvious that the world's been divided, sliced and diced into bits, country by country, city by city, block by block, house by house.
Now, we're being divided pair by pair. Imagine a time when we no longer feel the desire to connect with even one other human being.

You're all familiar with the Matrix movies, right? Well, nobody's going to "force" us to hook up to tubes and become vegetables. They're simply going to make it available and we're going to hook ourselves up with big, dopey smiles on our faces.

That's the big trick. It's the theory that you can't mess with free will. So, the tree is in the garden and the apples look delicious... all we have to do is entice the people to sit beneath the tree; they'll gladly eat the apples.

Just remember this... every time you resist the urge to view porn, not only are you removing some of the power of an industry that objectifies women, recruits millions of impressionable teenagers every year, and causes a great deal of corruption in our culture... but! You're also doing yourself a huge favor by yanking the giant tube out of the back of your skull and rejoining the reality of a culture that is in desperate need of every healthy, productive, loving, positive, man and women on this planet.

And all of this comes from me, a guy who used to LOVE porn!!

It's a trick! Don't fall for it! Keep strong! Use your mind!

Peace and love to all of you!

Believe it or not but porn may not be wholly negative. There are some positive aspects to it.

- Decreases the incidence of sexual assault/rape
- Acts as a venting mechanism for violent sexual phantasies
- Reduces crime by offering drug addicts a safer means of employment
than prostitution
- Can be a needed stimuli in alleviating couples' boredom
- Cuts down on HIV infections and saves medical costs

I work with a 68 y/o single gentleman who admits to watching porn movies on weekends. He has biological needs like everyone else. Should he then hire a prostitute as an alternative to safely viewing his favourite movies? Watching "Debbie does Dallas" won't infect him with STD's.

There are pro's and con's to everything.

reply to post by civilized mammal


Depends on whether or not one thinks prostitution is inherently "bad". Then I guess we must presuppose that all prostitutes carry stds. I could see this assumption being valid...I guess.

Should make a thread called, "prostitution vs. porn: which is more beneficial?"

[edit on 18-1-2009 by Unlimitedpossibilities]

reply to post by mesaX


It can damage other people. If a husband starts demanding from his wife what he sees in porn, and his wife doesn't comply, it can damage their marriage, and her self esteem.