Livecam from Gaza

If you were Hamas, wouldn't you be pissed that Iran isn't seemingly doing much to help? I listen to the gun fire and think....dude, you have moments left to live......these Hamas guys don't have a chance...were they counting on Iran to hook them up once the fighting started? Iran is all talk......then again what help did the "insurgents" in Iraq expect. I just don't understanding dying for nothing, with no hope for victory.

Its the pig push tonight... Now or never.

Who wants to make a bet? Huh, huh... This is so surreal!

are you guys gun experts since you can determine which guns they are using from a live feed? im just curious...

Originally posted by Res Ipsa
If you were Hamas, wouldn't you be pissed that Iran isn't seemingly doing much to help? I listen to the gun fire and think....dude, you have moments left to live......these Hamas guys don't have a chance...were they counting on Iran to hook them up once the fighting started? Iran is all talk......then again what help did the "insurgents" in Iraq expect. I just don't understanding dying for nothing, with no hope for victory.

As I said before, Gaza have been fighting with Israel for atleast 2000 years.

Iran could care less about Hamas, Simply because they have to worry about Iraq and pakistan and maybe even us (USA).

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With that attitude, we would just give it up in WW2, and give our country to USSR... No one had any idea, that little Finland will have any chance against mighty Russia... But then came one of the greatest "if" ... And we beat those attackers!

Everyone was ready to die those days, without any hope from victory, they made that - and Russia with 150 million people, 1 000 000 man was beaten from 5 million people and 200 000 man.

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I believe the name of the town was Ramallah, I tried to find it on a map but it looked too far north to be seeing this much action.....


course the feed is probably in a different location than that studio was? any ideas?

ground fire really intensifying....

Stationary Grenade Machine Gun, coming closer - 100% sure!

If burst is over 5-6 rounds its stationary. But when you here the "wuah, wuah," impact sound, its grenade gun.

Originally posted by JanusFIN
Its the pig push tonight... Now or never.

Who is going to push the pig?



It sounds really intense right now, again I can't imagine what it is like for the Palestinian people who have had to endure several days of this. Our perspective watching it from our computers I'm sure hardly compares to actually being there.

The studio where they had an interview is in Ramallah, West Bank. Totally different area than Gaza. This camera is supposively in Gaza City.

Originally posted by JanusFIN

Your excitement over weaponry and death worries me.

Ipsa, I think it's a case of dying for what you believe in. There is hope of victory of sorts, even if it's not physically winning the battle - due to their martyrdom the Palestinian children will probably become militant and the older generations realise that somebody is fighting for them. Sympathy is very powerful.

It is similar in Iraq and Afghanistan, we are led to believe it is a religious war when that is not the case. The insurgents/terrorists are fighting against what they see as the evil American-led west - and they'd be right in some ways. Our sanctions cause death and poverty, we stop them gaining power... we are like the Empire in Star Wars - they are the jedi rebels.

Their aim is not the total destruction of the west, rather stopping the repression they are suffering at the moment.

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Dude! I would seriously be interested in hearing what Finland did in World War II sometime....but probably not on this thread....but I will look into that sometime...I couldn't be more ignorant on that topic. But here, this has to be different, because Hamas has no chance and no Country to help them. You had the U.S. in WWII. but like I said, I don't know anything at all about Finland and WWII other than I thought Germany occupied all of Scandanavia....I'm Norwegian but a ton of you Fins migrated to northern Minnesota since owning a sauna is almost mandatory around there if you want to sell your house....LOL.

Originally posted by RocKukko
The studio where they had an interview is in Ramallah, West Bank. Totally different area than Gaza. This camera is supposively in Gaza City.

Exactly what I thought...and the man giving the interview is a communication businessman and own much property, including the studio or building from where this camera, in Gaza, is located.
Ramallah was north, and I saw no action behind him in the window reflection, tho i did hear some drones in the very far distance.


Lost entire feed no, no sound even, anyone else? edit: feed back


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... Tsori im fron finland suomi perrkele!



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Originally posted by JanusFIN
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... Tsori im fron finland suomi perrkele!

Sound is coming closer - hold on your positions - change positions sideways, not backways!!! Never turn your back to enemy. Fast moving, out from the walls - out from the walls - remember to look your back...

Take the corners!

CHANGE POSITIONS!!!

This isn't a game you know. I find your comments very distasteful.

well, if the hamas where hiding earlier according to that isralien man from the article, they sound like they are out of their holes now! my god those explosions are loud. i cant imagine a battlefield like that... people are even awake and yelling. there are some strange lights in the background. does anyone knows what theese are? im talking about the white/blueish one on the left, and the ones slightly off to the right, one of them is blinking?

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Speaking of changing positions.....hey guys....change your camera angle and face it towards where the big bangs are coming from.

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Really would like to give some lecture, specially from war history... And teachings... Other time, we are witnessing new history here today: On line.

Nice to meet you.

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Sorry! I stop...

It just puts adrenalin up!

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Gun fire is intense right now... Close and far...

Ok that was that... Violent recon on its progress.

Very possible barrage in 5 minutes in front of camera view..

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