Definitive Back Engineered Alien Technology Research thread

great thread -- but following on from rich and phage, we need to get this back to logic:

for sure we are now in the exponential growth phase of technology, where bigger advances in technology mean we are taking ever bigger steps forward. but does this imply/require back-engineered alien technology?

it could be the case BUT we also must not preclude the idea that we have arrived at an advanced physics through our own devices. science made huge steps during WW2 because people were fighting for their very lives and the nazis were prepared to use human beings like lab rats to test their research.

it is conceivable that the authorities took a large part of physics research underground after this conflict, because there are things that are just too dangerous to have out there in the open. eg. nuclear fusion, plasma weapons, bio-weaponology and space-based particle beams etc etc im not a higher physics grad, but a cursory reading of stuff by laviolette etc will tell you that some of these areas of research could yield weapons capable of planetary destruction.

there is whole school of thought out there that it was the nazis that pioneered advanced physics, building on what einstein and heisenberg/bohr had done, and then their work was advanced after the war by the US, which took a lot of these german scientists with them.

on this reading, the whole alien concept could be classic disninformation. i believe the leaps and bounds can be explained by breakthroughs in nuclear research, the war time experience, and the space prgramme....

The letter to Obama is missing.
I would like a few more notes from Tesla in Colorado Springs
being released.
I have some photos of high voltage single terminal bulb designs
for the Tesla saucer (very rare).
And the coil used is a single terminal coil.
What am I saying, I just realized it.
A power circuit though the atmosphere is at work.
At his 81st birthday pre interview, a 18 Million volt bulb was
announced.
Unrelated is his electron description at high voltage such that
the electron falls apart due to its large size and increases in
charge. And shines like a star, like UFOs?
This might be a relativistic effect since high voltage means
more speed but then increases mass ( size?) with velocity
but no charge increase theory exists.
Yeah, I think Obama and a lot of people should consider findings
locked up nearing a century now.

reply to post by techieatwork


This is one that I have always thought most interesting in that not only do you see it outside the atmosphere but that it changes direction and speed right in front of the camera..
Thanks I'll inbed it here.



[edit on 12-1-2009 by SLAYER69]

The old photon/particle beam cannon shot!

It would have been even better evidence if it hit the target?

I love It! and no one try and debunk this as it was broadcast over many channels all over the world.

Good one Slayer and its a shame the graphics were bad as it does not show the full detail of the flash of the cannon also the ufo and its movements, but I have seen this many times.

Who said the star wars defence program is only in orbit?





[edit on 12-1-2009 by Bob Down Under]

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I heard some say it was a test firing at an Alien craft by the supposed SDI program results and it was a railgun.

Too late for me to read all your stuff Slayer. Nice thread from what I have briefly seen. So are you a believer in the "aliens" or just a believer in UFO's as a fact. Or are you a skeptic? As I said it's late and I will be grabbing a few z's shortly.

Also, why did that anonymous post that something happened between 1933 and the other date? That is fascinating, since it does tie in quite nicely with something I will be mentioning on my thread.

In any case, thanks for the heads up to your thread.

Originally posted by TH3ON3
Too late for me to read all your stuff Slayer. Nice thread from what I have briefly seen. So are you a believer in the "aliens" or just a believer in UFO's as a fact. Or are you a skeptic? As I said it's late and I will be grabbing a few z's shortly.

Also, why did that anonymous post that something happened between 1933 and the other date? That is fascinating, since it does tie in quite nicely with something I will be mentioning on my thread.

In any case, thanks for the heads up to your thread.

All of the above and some ?



[edit on 12-1-2009 by Bob Down Under]

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Yeah, something happened between 1933 and 1954 to stimulate technology development, it was WW2. Corso was a chancer and lier. Until you can find links between the disseminators of the alleged alien technology and the putative inventors you are just spouting the same nonsense. In archaeology it's called the cultural diffusion fallacy. The belief that we are so unworthy/ignorant that we could not come up with the stuff ourselves, add to that the fact that the gap between scientific knowledge and common sensense understanding is gets bigger as time goes by.

Why 1933? I have to ask since I don't see it mentioned. Are you now, or were you on the inside? I know 1933 is significant 'possibly' according to some coincidences from the movie The Day The Earth Stood Still, a la The Matrix, and possibly the Cohen Bros also in on some inside information.

I also now believe that the books author, Arthur Tofte, was called in to help with figuring out what they had recovered, and I will be posting a thread in the next few days that your date ties in with.

So did you get this date from some link/video that Slayer posted, or did you just "pull it" out of the thin stratosphere?

reply to post by TH3ON3


thanks
I'm looking forward to reading your post good luck.
And if anybody gets in your way throw a shoe at him!


Also to all posters who get hung up on the mention of Corso he is not the only source of our info and as I have already stated I don’t think he was 100% accurate. and this thread is not based solely on his testimony

I guess some people read a name in a post and just run with it without bothering to read the whole thing sheesh



[edit on 12-1-2009 by SLAYER69]

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SLAYER69, that's the STS-48 UFOs incident:


Description of Events

On September 15, 1991, between 20:30 and 20:45 Greenwich Mean Time, the TV camera located at the back of Space Shuttle Discovery's cargo bay was trained on the Earth's horizon while the astronauts were occupied with other tasks. A glowing object suddenly appeared just below the horizon and "slowly" moved from right to left and slightly upward in the picture. Several other glowing objects had been visible before this, and had been moving in various directions. Then a flash of light occurred at what seemed to be the lower left of the screen; and the main object,
along with the others, changed direction and accelerated away sharply, as if in response to the flash. Shortly thereafter a streak of light moved through the region vacated by the main object, and then another streak moved through the right of the screen, where two of the other objects had been. Roughly 65 seconds after the main flash, the TV camera rotated down, showing a fuzzy picture of the side of the cargo bay. It then refocused, turned toward the front of the cargo bay, and stopped broadcasting.

/3p8mac

NASA STS-48 U.F.O


Subsequently, analysis of the video shows that:

• The distance from the Discovery to the Earth's horizon is 2,757 kilometres
  
  
• The UFO's speed before accelerating into space is 87,000 kph (Mach 73)
  
  
• Three seconds after the light flash, the UFO changes direction sharply and accelarates off into space at 340,000 kph (Mach 285) within 2.2 seconds
  
  
• Such an acceleration would produce 14,000 g of force (1g is normal Earth gravity)
  

Links:

Space Shuttle Discovery Mission STS-48 - TinWiki entry

A New Look at the Evidence Supporting a Prosaic Explanation of the STS-48 "UFO" Video

Chronology of Anomalous Events during STS-48 Shuttle Mission

Commentary on the STS-48 Video: A Closer Look, and Second Thoughts

Digital Video Analysis of Anomalous Space Objects - The STS-48 Video (PDF)

Examination of Object Trajectories in the STS-48 "UFO" Video

Losing the Signal - Proof That Time Stamps on the STS-48 Video Released by NASA Are Phony

Proof of the Prosaic Nature of the STS-48 Zig-Zag Video (Skeptical)

Response to NASA's James Oberg's Analysis of STS-48 Video

Star Wars Over Australia?


On ATS:
NASA STS-48 UFO Video

NASA Space Shuttle - STS footage & Strange Objects

USA shots laser at UFO video

Aurora video?

Firing at UFO's

STS-48 Mission on video.

UFO?s Prominent in Space

Looking for Some Footage

UFO Articles on AboveTopSecret.com

Space Shuttle Discovery Mission STS-48 Captures Potential UFOs on Film


We had the luck to discuss it with Credulity Kills, he worked for NASA for 9 years as a mission control specialist for the ISS (his specialty was the ISS guidance, navigation & control system) and provided us with some extremely detailed informations HERE.

The incident is very controversial, but also the explanations provided make much sense, in my humble opinion.

Thanks for the contribution good links to.
I know I'll be busy for awhile checking those out
thanks again.

reply to post by Bob Down Under


hi mate. let's put together some coils, brains and stuff and let's get something cranking.



Cheers.

Originally posted by techieatwork
reply to post by Bob Down Under

 

hi mate. let's put together some coils, brains and stuff and let's get something cranking.

Cheers.

Who me! Brains? Im just some dumb Tech Teacher

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
The letter to Obama is missing.
I would like a few more notes from Tesla in Colorado Springs
being released.
I have some photos of high voltage single terminal bulb designs
for the Tesla saucer (very rare).
And the coil used is a single terminal coil.
What am I saying, I just realized it.
A power circuit though the atmosphere is at work.
At his 81st birthday pre interview, a 18 Million volt bulb was
announced.
Unrelated is his electron description at high voltage such that
the electron falls apart due to its large size and increases in
charge. And shines like a star, like UFOs?
This might be a relativistic effect since high voltage means
more speed but then increases mass ( size?) with velocity
but no charge increase theory exists.
Yeah, I think Obama and a lot of people should consider findings
locked up nearing a century now.

Boy! do you love Tesla?

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
The letter to Obama is missing.
I would like a few more notes from Tesla in Colorado Springs
being released.
I have some photos of high voltage single terminal bulb designs
for the Tesla saucer (very rare).
And the coil used is a single terminal coil.
What am I saying, I just realized it.
A power circuit though the atmosphere is at work.
At his 81st birthday pre interview, a 18 Million volt bulb was
announced.
Unrelated is his electron description at high voltage such that
the electron falls apart due to its large size and increases in
charge. And shines like a star, like UFOs?
This might be a relativistic effect since high voltage means
more speed but then increases mass ( size?) with velocity
but no charge increase theory exists.
Yeah, I think Obama and a lot of people should consider findings
locked up nearing a century now.

You know sometimes I wonder if he was a plant or channeling from them as some believe they can do.

A possible way of advancing us without our knowledge that they are trying to push us covertly.

Anyway good luck I hope you get a response.

Tesla was ready to roll and hire engineers.. his flier.

I just happen to read published material on Tesla and people get
bugged out.

I mentioned the electron being broken up and increasing in charge.

I have no idea if modern science fits that idea and is holding back
but to me common electron knowledge is the exact opposite.

If we are under Alien or Illuminati rule then we are taught opposite
science.

Very unemotionally yours.

Human communities which have not had contact with the outside world still live in the stone age ...

Western man held the Ptolemaic world-view for more than a thousand years ( 40+ generations ) ...

The transistor was suddenly discovered 'by accident' around 1953 ...

I mean, there's dumb, and then there's dumber ... what's it gonna take people ?

Isn't it obvious we are nothing more than 'cattle' living on a 'people farm' ?

reply to post by TeslaandLyne


A lot of of his patents are still not available to be seen and studied post WWII

Originally posted by visible_villain


The transistor was suddenly discovered 'by accident' around 1953 ...

The development of the transistor was no "accident". It was the result of a directed research and development effort. Also, please note that Corso claimed to have begun releasing the "saucer wreckage" in 1961.


1930 - M. Kelly suggests that semiconducting materials can be used in lieu of vacuum tubes for electronic amplification.

1945 - Bell labs assembles a team to work on the development of a semiconductor amplifier. Bill Shockley designs first semiconductor amplifier but it fails to work.
www.pbs.org...

1947 - Walter Brattain uses germanium to create the first working transistor (point-contact transistor).

1948 - Bell labs reveals Shockley's invention, the junction transistor. Raytheon releases first commercial transistor.

1949 - Bell labs begins production of point contact transistors
semiconductormuseum.com...

1950 - Bell labs creates first grown junction transistor
semiconductormuseum.com...

1951 - 20 licenses issued by Western Electric for the manufacture of transistors.

1952 - Raytheon produces 10,000 hearing aid transistors.
semiconductormuseum.com...

[edit on 1/12/2009 by Phage]

Ok, I've been banging on about Richard Dolan, ATS Mix guest (which I only just found out through looking at his website - I've been away from here for a while), historian, and all around good egg.

You might want to check out his speech at X-Con 2005. It's a magisterial overview of his work so far, including what I take to be data he's going to publish in Volume II of his history.

He makes no bones about the fact that the technology available from multiple crash retrievals (no, it doesn't depend solely on Roswell or Corso) has accelerated our understanding, and that a lot of the technology is not in the public domain.

Take a gander at about 1:10 where he talks about Skunk Works and in particular Ben Rich.

"He [Rich] said that Kelly Johnson said to him that 'There are two kinds of UFOs: ours and theirs' "

Dolen also says that in 1993, Ben Rich spoke to the UCLA School of Engineering Alumni Group and ended his address with the phrase:

"We now have the technology to take ET home".

This, remember, is the recently ex-head of Lockheed Skunk Works. This is not Dr Marvin Monroe. "We have the technology to take ET home... and it doesn't take a lifetime."

He also said that he thought that the humans in charge of this technology might pose more of a threat to humanity at large than the aliens who helped us develop it - and they're not exactly friendly.

It's an excellent lecture, though perhaps a little rushed at times - he's got a lot to get through. Enjoy.