Israeli tank column enters Gaza: witness

reply to post by aLinkToThePast

Originally posted by aLinkToThePast
prior to the death toll from the missle attacks,Is there a total number of kills/estimation since they invaded gaza?

Yes...one too many


[edit on 3-1-2009 by Muundoggie]

reply to post by dooper


Don't respond to goofballs my friend. This helps them spread the propaganda and lies. Egyp keeps their border closed but Isael has allowed much humanitarian aide. Of course it doesn't each the people cause the Hamas Leaders need the shills to hate the Jews so they will strap on bombs and die..

This is another one of those dumb as untrue goofball excuses why it's OK to lob rockets at Jewish children and say it's not their fault, they made us lob rockets...

Just my advice, you don't have to take it but you will not convince a Jew hater or a muslim that this is Hamas' fault...

Can people here be specific in the Television and Internet channels they are watching.

I am watching Cnn live on y computer/internet-

www.cnn.com...

and on my Television and Im seeing two different feeds.

Even though I have a slight military background. Can people be Specific on what a phosphorus bomb looks like.

I assume I see cluster bombs( blowing up above the grown and shooting down a rain of "something" downwards.

[edit on 3-1-2009 by DalairTheGreat]

reply to post by pepsi78

Pepsi, the damned Gazans have been firing rockets across the border for the past eight years.

Just how long should Israel be required to put up with that crap?

Tell me this: if I come and shoot at your house, how long will you allow me to continue? Eight years? Nine?

Ok this is bull crap. Well let's just see who broke the agreement.
I got a credible source too.

Why are rockets firing?
Because Israel broke the agreement? Because they can't keep their word and because this is not the first time?

www.reuters.com...

GAZA (Reuters) - Hamas fired dozens of rockets at Israel on Wednesday after Israeli forces killed six Palestinian militants in an eruption of violence that disrupted a four-month-old truce along the Gaza Strip's frontier.

reply to post by dooper


Hey dooper... if I shoot at your house will you bring me some food?
I'm hungry... I large pizza and some beer will do.

That's the logic of that other poster.

reply to post by DalairTheGreat

Dalair, those aren't cluster bombs.

Cluster bombs hit the ground, and go off over a few seconds, throwing mostly shrapnel. Some are for anti-personnel, some are more advanced and suitable for taking out an armored column.

If it's bright with "fingers" , and if fired low, reaching to the ground, it's likely flares. And phosphorous is used in flares, but not as weapons. It just provides a super bright light. Magnesium will do the same thing.

Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by pepsi78

 

Pepsi, the damned Gazans have been firing rockets across the border for the past eight years.

Just how long should Israel be required to put up with that crap?

Tell me this: if I come and shoot at your house, how long will you allow me to continue? Eight years? Nine?

See Dooper , why don't you stick to the facts of who started this?
Who broke it? Take a good look.

Who the hell cares who started it? Both sides keep perpetuating it.

Originally posted by pepsi78

Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by pepsi78

 

Pepsi, the damned Gazans have been firing rockets across the border for the past eight years.

Just how long should Israel be required to put up with that crap?

Tell me this: if I come and shoot at your house, how long will you allow me to continue? Eight years? Nine?

See Dooper , why don't you stick to the facts of who started this?
Who broke it? Take a good look.

It doesn't matter who STARTED it. All that really matters is who is willing to put a STOP to the insanity?

Originally posted by Raustin
Who the hell cares who started it? Both sides keep perpetuating it.

You know why it is important.Because some will say "well they are firing rockets in Israel" and the answer is BAM!!!!!! because they broke the agreement and killed six. So some people here will stop using the rockets as an excuse.
How lame is it for some to use the same excuse for what is happening there over and over again.


[edit on 3-1-2009 by pepsi78]

Because freaking Hamas keeps firing the rockets!!! They have been warned REPEATEDLY that this would happen so im not gonna cry for them. Israel has been letting aid come though the border for weeks and what happens in repsonse, more rockets from Hamas.

Well now they are getting it and hopefully the Palestinian civilins are now seeing exactly what this Hamas "LEADERSHIP" is getting them.

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Everyone is just arguing in circles. Sound familiar? Both sides have valid points, but seem to be missing the problem. How do both sides come to some sort of agreement?

Originally posted by Muundoggie

Originally posted by pepsi78

Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by pepsi78

 

Pepsi, the damned Gazans have been firing rockets across the border for the past eight years.

Just how long should Israel be required to put up with that crap?

Tell me this: if I come and shoot at your house, how long will you allow me to continue? Eight years? Nine?

See Dooper , why don't you stick to the facts of who started this?
Who broke it? Take a good look.

It doesn't matter who STARTED it. All that really matters is who is willing to put a STOP to the insanity?

It will go on and on and on, ever seen the comercial with the bunny rabit.
It's simple, peace is not wanted in the region.They just want all the land.
I think even Hamas a most extrimist group is tierd of it all.The Palestinians can't even pick a fight with Israel.It's just others that use it as an excuse.They worth the pity, that is why I pity them, I pity people that can't compete.

reply to post by pepsi78


I have a different opinion than you do.
So if you kill me because of it what will that prove?

Because freaking Hamas keeps firing the rockets!!!

Because Israel broke the agreement, is that a good answer for you?
There you go.

They have been warned REPEATEDLY that this would happen so im not gonna cry for them.

And who is warning Israel when they don't respect agreements and cross the border and then kill people? who will do that?

Israel has been letting aid come though the border for weeks and what happens in repsonse, more rockets from Hamas.

Well maybe another agreement should be made, hope Israel does not break this one too.

Well now they are getting it and hopefully the Palestinian civilins are now seeing exactly what this Hamas "LEADERSHIP" is getting them.

Palestinian civilians are dieing because Israel broke the agreement, it's plain and simple.


[edit on 3-1-2009 by pepsi78]

reply to post by pepsi78


When Hamas tore up the agreement and increased the volume of rockets launched across the border, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Egypt strongly criticized Hamas.

Ask yourself why? Why would Hamas do that?

I'm sure right now, a lot of Gazans are asking that same question.

Anytime you have one side attack another, ask yourself why? Who benefits? Who gains?

Certainly not Israel, who just wants to be left the hell alone.

Hamas absolutely must constantly keep $#!T stirred up, or they're out of business.

Peace comes? Hamas is out of business.

No more money, no more weapons, no more Hamas.

They would actually have to get a real job. And with Hamas as a work reference, that is not exactly a credible reference, nor is it suitable work experience.

Once you get past the biased BS, you can see who started what, and for what reason.

Hamas cannot maintain control without conflict. Now they have all kinds of reasons to rant against the damned Israelis.

When the Israelis want nothing to do with Gaza.

Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by DalairTheGreat

 

Dalair, those aren't cluster bombs.

Cluster bombs hit the ground, and go off over a few seconds, throwing mostly shrapnel. Some are for anti-personnel, some are more advanced and suitable for taking out an armored column.

If it's bright with "fingers" , and if fired low, reaching to the ground, it's likely flares. And phosphorous is used in flares, but not as weapons. It just provides a super bright light. Magnesium will do the same thing.

So where are these cluster bombs I see people speaking of.

reply to post by DalairTheGreat


Those cone like projections that spray into the ground are most likely Dual Purpose Improved Conventional Munitions being fired from Israeli M109 Self Propelled Guns.

They burst into sub munitions at specified altitude, similar to air to ground cluster munitions.

reply to post by DalairTheGreat


Cluster bomb being dropped. I don't think I've seen any yet. Correct me if I'm wrong about the video.


[edit on 3-1-2009 by Raustin]