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Originally posted by YoungStalin
Okay if he was christian,his son died and was cremated would this be an issue? since when do people have to make autopsy public record because of your religion? I swear, a Scientologist does anything and its "look that happened because he is a scientologist". Meanwhile prisoners on deathrow can get christian services before the execution and nobody brings it up. For the record freezone is NOT scientology.
Just like christians, catholics, Protestant, baptist are not all the same.
But this is pointless you guys watched zeitgeist and google searched scientology probably read at most a page or 2 of somthing LRH wrote and spent an hour reading the anti-scientology web sites, so you must have a PHD on the subject.
You're using a bad analogy. In my case it is like asking a former KKK member about the KKK, a former Jew about Judaism, a former Catholic about Catholicism. People who have been a member of an organization do have subject matter expertise. You then take that expertise and apply it to the "how". How are they describing things? If they "flame" you know you are receiving emotional content.
Its the same as going to the KKK website to learn about black history and going to a neo-nazi website to learn about judaism.
Anyone can argue their knowledge on the subject the most common is
1. saying that you know former scientologist then putting quotes around anything you want for example a former scientologist i talked to said "i did 400 jumping jacks everyday"
2. Saying that you read a book then just going to another website and pasting a quote up saying you remembered it.
Nope, just in history. However, getting that PhD did show me how to do responsible research. I would not only take the word of a disgruntled former employee before deciding whether or not to take a position at a company. I would listen to people that also liked working there. I would ask questions of both that pertain to my own likes and dislikes.
Does Dianetics count? **waves** I read the first few chapters until I couldn't take the boredom anymore.
I got as far as the fifth exercise (the chair ones) and said to myself that it was a hypnotic deprivation exercise and not for me. The Alice in Wonderland thing was really bizarre.
I'm not saying that I am an authority, but I have read enough about it to make my decision on it. Not only that, but seeing as how I have been criticized by anti-Scientologists for being too "light" on Scientologists I guess I'm pretty fair in my treatment.
Originally posted by YoungStalin
reply to post by Rintendo
I was telling YOU that freezone was not scientology because you were putting it on the board. you said
Nope, just in history. However, getting that PhD did show me how to do responsible research. I would not only take the word of a disgruntled former employee before deciding whether or not to take a position at a company. I would listen to people that also liked working there. I would ask questions of both that pertain to my own likes and dislikes.
So i have read the posts on this board and all your "responsible research" and have found that all you have done is post freezone materials and take quotes from L ron hubbard out of context.
Does Dianetics count? **waves** I read the first few chapters until I couldn't take the boredom anymore.
I got as far as the fifth exercise (the chair ones) and said to myself that it was a hypnotic deprivation exercise and not for me. The Alice in Wonderland thing was really bizarre.
I'm not saying that I am an authority, but I have read enough about it to make my decision on it. Not only that, but seeing as how I have been criticized by anti-Scientologists for being too "light" on Scientologists I guess I'm pretty fair in my treatment.
It means that unlike the people who would like to "dismantle the cult", "bring the cult to its knees", etc. saying it is not for me, why it is not for me, but saying also that grownups have a right to choose whatever...I'd say that's pretty light. I consider the anti-Catholics who don't immediately go for the "all priests are pedophiles" or bring up the Inquisition 500 years later in a conversation are giving it to me pretty light.
and as far as being "light" on scientologists what does that mean?
You guys believe Jesus, Buddha, Muhammad and others were programmed into our brains, yes? So why would burning a cross bother you?
Better yet ask your friends what would a good anti-scientologist do to a scientologist? burn a cross?
break a window? beat him up on the street? vandalize his church?
Ask your friends i dont know because i dont hang out with anyone who is anti any religion or race.
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by Rintendo
The child was Autistic and he was denied care such as:
1. Medications
2. Helmet
3. Being watched
4. Schooling for Autism (Spec.Ed.)
5. Therapist or Psychologist to work with a mentally ill child to help him with his illness for better coping skills.
6. Parenting Education and support groups with other parents with children with special needs.
The Travolta's were not educated enough on parenting skills with a non-Typical developing child.
MENTAL ILLNESS IS REAL just like PHYSICAL ILLNESS it needs to be treated to make life as the best is can be for that person to get through. Jett may have been loved, had material things, and a mansion over his head. However he was a special kid with special needs and it goes way beyond then what his lay parents provided.
Yes Jett was never diagnosed by any non-scientologist doctors...
He was never properly treated case closed
Originally posted by silo13
reply to post by flyingunknown
Yes Jett was never diagnosed by any non-scientologist doctors...
He was never properly treated case closed
Please post proof of your accusations or prepare to be put in the slanderer category. Thanks.
This death was tragic - as is any death of a child.
Maybe more so for Jet as his parents (seemingly) did everything they could to give him all the love and care possible.
My heart goes out to them still.
I hope they can find some peace somehow.
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