Alien Domes On The Moon? Let’s Set The Controversy to Rest!

reply to post by Iblis Smiley

I thought this was about an open discussion

Open discussion...?

You using those words is quite the oxymoron...

You did not offer up another explanation to these pictures, you simply sounded off with, "Rocks"...how profound..!

Here are more profound posts from you:

Is there any way that you or the person that starred that post can get me to believe any of that?

and...

So exactly which insane idea is worth a listen?

then the one that started the love for you...

Any other "evidence" of any of this garbage?

and this

If you have a problem with that, you should leave the discussion board and see if you can find a "everyone just support whatever the OP says" board.

Then this sad attempt at a jedi-mind trick...

Why? Why must that be a walled compound to you? Why does it not look like rocks to you?

You don't see the comedy in your rebuttal on that one..?




And what of this mess...

Unfortunately that does not make me ready to believe every picture of a shape - sort of.

Who's asking you to believe..? You can contribute in many ways; agreeing or disagreeing is not the issue here - the issue is that you offer nothing except dull wit as a defense of your position...and what does "sort of" mean..?

I terrorize on members all the time, but never for disagreeing with MY VIEW...if someone thinks/believes that they see something and they are adamant about it, then leave them them be - no amount of arguing is going to change their mind...it should make no difference to you - unless you have an agenda here...

If you have the fortunate opportunity to engage another member in a debate that has substance, then good on you and them...hopefully something productive comes from it...

As for the rest...

Originally posted by Iblis Smiley

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by Iblis Smiley Any other "evidence" of any of this garbage?

And yet... you are here

Right...looking for evidence. What are you smirking at? If I were not here, I would be guilty of not looking into it. Since I am here, what is it that you are saying? I am missing your point other than to mock me.

What am I smirking at? Your obvious biased attitude... but it seems okay for you to spew 'garbage' and 'crap' and call what others see 'nonsense' and 'insanity' yet pretend like you are here looking for 'evidence'

You have already made up your mind... it is also obvious that you do not see what others can see as plain as the nose on their face... Why that is I do not know... but just because YOU cannot see it does not mean others who can are 'insane'

Yet my little comment seems to have offended you and seems that despite all the 'crap' you are derailing the thread with, it seems the mods have deemed it necessary to delete my post (which you quoted ) 'in the interest of decorum and manners' yet your generic attacks that have obviously ticked off many in the thread judging by the posts remain untouched...

Personally I feel that this is what is wrong with ATS lately... but then.. that is just an opinion....

Well delete this one too if you must...

I no longer care

[edit on 30-12-2008 by zorgon]

reply to post by depthoffield


To post a picture, click the following icon on the "Post Reply" screen:




and then paste in the link to the image.

The image you are referring to:




To me it would seem to work well within the confines of the light angles. The two objects on the "east" side appear to be rounded on top.

It is not, in my estimation, ET in nature. I believe it is human and related to ongoing moon mining. Lots of He3 up there, you know? Not to mention Titanium, which is becoming increasingly important in the field of nanotech.

It is not a "walled compound", as there is no reason to build a wall that i can imagine (walls are put up to keep people out or in....neither would seem to apply on the moon). The term "walled compound" is descriptive only. I think that there is a greater chance of it being some sort of tubes or tunnels connection modular units for housing or something.

However, that is assuming that it is what it appears to be. I have seen no evidence that it is not. Bear in mind that i have seen some outstanding images that appear to be one thing, and are proven to me to be something else entirely. A good example would be in this thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...


James Oberg put a good explanation up for this image:




being a tile. At first it looked like someone had taken a picture of a canvas image, and the canvas had a tear in it. AFter reading Oberg's explanation, I can agree that what he says is most likely true. That doesn't mean i will accept "space pigeons" as an explanation for everything....but in that one case it works.

[edit on 30-12-2008 by bigfatfurrytexan]

Originally posted by zorgon
Personally I feel that this is what is wrong with ATS lately... but then.. that is just an opinion....

Well delete this one too if you must...

I no longer care

[edit on 30-12-2008 by zorgon]

So my calling things garbage while also sticking to the topic is bad.

Post after OFF topic post of personal attacks aimed at me are ok.

Did I get it right? I never attacked one person on this thread. I have been attacked multiple times now for the words that I used to describe stuff, not people, not something you made, but pictures of things. This is what you call advancing the discussion? This is a civilized discussion? Amazing how in all this I am the only one that was not attacking anyone else and I was posting to the actual topic of the thread and yet somehow you feel justified in attacking me? OK.

Since you two seem to be so good at telling me what I am going to say and what I think, let me try. You think that anyone that does not look at a lens flare and believe immediately it is some completely illogical space camp of some kind. When questioned on what sense that would even make, you will attack the person who asked.

We can both do this. How about sticking to the topic and not me. If I attack you, so be it. Until then, thanks for being so nice and welcoming to views that do not immediately jump on your particular bandwagon.

reply to post by chapter29


Ah.... good job of taking things out of context. Now I see the logic being employed here. We take things out of the environment we find them in and put them into one that will bring it around to what we already decided to believe. Cool. I did ask a question and I have asked it twice. I would like to add that it was also, unlike what I am responding to, ON TOPIC and NOT a personal attack against you. Hey, I get it, believe zorgon or get out. If you use words you do not like, attack them personally. Got it, thanks.

Just in case anyone forgot what the topic is here, it is not me. It is alien domes on the moon. So I will ask one more time. If this also warrants more personal attacks, then I am not sure I can find a reason to care what anyone like that has to say.

-Right, that is why I asked what I thought was a question. Let me try it again. Can someone explain to me the logic of a square compound all by itself like that? See, I was trying to further this discussion by asking someone to clear up just what sense that even makes. I guess you would rather take up all that space to tell me what I think, what I will say, and where I should be. None of those are on topic though, are they?

Originally posted by Iblis Smiley
So my calling things garbage while also sticking to the topic is bad.

Post after OFF topic post of personal attacks aimed at me are ok.

Did I get it right? I never attacked one person on this thread. I have been attacked multiple times now for the words that I used to describe stuff, not people, not something you made, but pictures of things. This is what you call advancing the discussion? This is a civilized discussion? Amazing how in all this I am the only one that was not attacking anyone else and I was posting to the actual topic of the thread and yet somehow you feel justified in attacking me? OK.

Since you two seem to be so good at telling me what I am going to say and what I think, let me try. You think that anyone that does not look at a lens flare and believe immediately it is some completely illogical space camp of some kind. When questioned on what sense that would even make, you will attack the person who asked.

We can both do this. How about sticking to the topic and not me. If I attack you, so be it. Until then, thanks for being so nice and welcoming to views that do not immediately jump on your particular bandwagon.

I think "Chapter 29" summed it up quite nicely above:

Originally posted by chapter29
reply to post by Iblis Smiley

 

I thought this was about an open discussion

Open discussion...?

You using those words is quite the oxymoron...

You did not offer up another explanation to these pictures, you simply sounded off with, "Rocks"...how profound..!

Here are more profound posts from you:

Is there any way that you or the person that starred that post can get me to believe any of that?

and...

So exactly which insane idea is worth a listen?

then the one that started the love for you...

Any other "evidence" of any of this garbage?

and this

If you have a problem with that, you should leave the discussion board and see if you can find a "everyone just support whatever the OP says" board.

Then this sad attempt at a jedi-mind trick...

Why? Why must that be a walled compound to you? Why does it not look like rocks to you?

You don't see the comedy in your rebuttal on that one..?

And what of this mess...

Unfortunately that does not make me ready to believe every picture of a shape - sort of.

Who's asking you to believe..? You can contribute in many ways; agreeing or disagreeing is not the issue here - the issue is that you offer nothing except dull wit as a defense of your position...and what does "sort of" mean..?

I terrorize on members all the time, but never for disagreeing with MY VIEW...if someone thinks/believes that they see something and they are adamant about it, then leave them them be - no amount of arguing is going to change their mind...it should make no difference to you - unless you have an agenda here...

If you have the fortunate opportunity to engage another member in a debate that has substance, then good on you and them...hopefully something productive comes from it...

As for the rest...

If you tire of being up on that cross, you can pull the splinters out of your wrist and stop playing the victim. It is noted that the emperor has no clothes.

I am unsure how what i posted to you was not on topic (assuming i am one of the "you two" you refer to). I was discussing structures on the moon. I didn't discuss the OP's image, as it does not seem to hold much water for me in this instance (although Mike as a strong history of solid content on the website).

I would also like to add that i in no way levelled a "personal attack" on you. As a matter of fact, i recieved two applauses, from two separate moderators/FSME for my civility in replying to you.

[edit on 30-12-2008 by bigfatfurrytexan]

reply to post by Iblis Smiley

Can someone explain to me the logic of a square compound all by itself like that?

I'll give it a shot...

I'm going to go with the mining theme here and stay away from the underground brothel theme...

Build a compound (most likely with four 90 degree angles), a decent size one at that, to hide the work being done...the "compound" was already difficult to find, so TPTB already scouted a good site...

If the people do find the "compound" at least they will not know what is taking place inside...

note: this is a conspiracy site remember...




If you build a big enough building, there should be no problem (assumption here) maintaining a mining operation in-doors...no, I do not know what type of HVAC system they have, so don't bother bringing up dust and debri concerns...

This is just one possibility - others may include a possible in-door staging area for...whatever.

Point is..there are many possible reasons for having a building on the moon...who the hell wants to work outside amongst a bunch of 'rocks'?



[edit on 12/30/2008 by chapter29]

Originally posted by Iblis Smiley

-Right, that is why I asked what I thought was a question. Let me try it again. Can someone explain to me the logic of a square compound all by itself like that? See, I was trying to further this discussion by asking someone to clear up just what sense that even makes. I guess you would rather take up all that space to tell me what I think, what I will say, and where I should be. None of those are on topic though, are they?

As bigfatfurrytexan already said:

"It is not a "walled compound", as there is no reason to build a wall that i can imagine (walls are put up to keep people out or in....neither would seem to apply on the moon). The term "walled compound" is descriptive only. I think that there is a greater chance of it being some sort of tubes or tunnels connection modular units for housing or something."

www.abovetopsecret.com...

If you are interested, you can also go to this site to take a look at some other anomalies in the area around Deadalus crater. The area is interesting:
www.thelivingmoon.com...

Originally posted by internos
Iblis Smiley: I am not one of those who try to pass some rock as some alien base on the Moon, if .....

I guess I had no idea that anyone would take the word garbage so personally as to attack me directly, over and over and over. I wanted to appologize and everything, but...I got home from work and read post after post after post of personal attack against me. Now, I no longer feel bad. If this is how people react when I call something you only give a 1 "garbage" then wow! That is all I have to say about that.

Anyway...I just have an issue with most of these photos because what they show is such an isolated 'object.' I mean things like this large square all by itself. I see these pictures and then people claiming it is evidence of a base or even civilization. Unfortunately, what I am not seeing is the logic. Why would there be this one lonely building in the middle of such empty expanse?

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
I would also like to add that i in no way levelled a "personal attack" on you. As a matter of fact, i recieved two applauses, from two separate moderators/FSME for my civility in replying to you.

That is super but how many posts about just me is this I am replying to now? Been awhile since you were anywhere near the topic.

reply to post by chapter29


So you think there is an active base where people live or that we travel back and forth to the moon often or that this is an alien mine?

reply to post by Iblis Smiley


There are many good reasons. If you had read the John Lear thread (as you have claimed) you would know most of them, and all of this would have been explained.

Lab experiments suggest that future fusion reactors could use helium-3 gathered from the moon.

Even more surprising is that one reason for much of the interest appears to be plans to mine helium-3--purportedly an ideal fuel for fusion reactors but almost unavailable on Earth--from the moon's surface.

www.technologyreview.com...

Zorgon has several .pdf's from various government websites dealing with the possibility of mining missions. Not to mention the private emails recieved from members of these government groups claiming that it has already begun.

Keep in mind that it won't be openly admitted, as it would violate treaties in place currently. But if you "read between the lines", as one source put it, it is obvious.

Originally posted by ziggystar60


As bigfatfurrytexan already said:

All of a sudden we are not just attacking me but just reposting other people's posts to me? Someone explain how any of this is getting this topic anywhere. Can you all, yes you too texan, stop worrying about me. I stopped using that g word, ok.

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by Iblis Smiley

 

There are many good reasons. If you had read the John Lear thread (as you have claimed) you would know most of them, and all of this would have been explained.

I did not ask what Leer thought. I am here, talking with you folks. I am asking what the thoughts might be of the very person I was replying to. Hand waving and dismissal noted.

Lab experiments suggest that future fusion reactors could use helium-3 gathered from the moon.

Even more surprising is that one reason for much of the interest appears to be plans to mine helium-3--purportedly an ideal fuel for fusion reactors but almost unavailable on Earth--from the moon's surface.

www.technologyreview.com...

Zorgon has several .pdf's from various government websites dealing with the possibility of mining missions. Not to mention the private emails recieved from members of these government groups claiming that it has already begun.

Keep in mind that it won't be openly admitted, as it would violate treaties in place currently. But if you "read between the lines", as one source put it, it is obvious.

OK, and see if you can take this as a question. What reason is there to believe that these PDFs or emails are legit?

reply to post by Iblis Smiley


Read the following link:

www.thelivingmoon.com...

And then ask yourself why we are sending all that perishable food up? Banana's don't last so long....so why do we send so many up into orbit?

You can then peruse the links on this page:

www.thelivingmoon.com...

and ask yourself why we need the Aquila? Why the DoD needs a "heavy lift vehicle"?

Or this link:

www.thelivingmoon.com...

and ask why the DoD has so many space agency's? The Navy is even in on it.

reply to post by Iblis Smiley


I am providing you with the information to read. Just read it.

The .pdf's are assumed to be legit because they come from places like Los Alamos.

I ask you to check out the Lear thread because there is good info there, and most of it is from other people and not Lear.

People are quoting what i say, because what i say makes sense. Read what has been provided. The answers are in there.

Any way;

It has been a while since i seen the theories about glass domes on the moon.
On the website of Hoagland there where some "blue" strange pictures where the domes where said vissible.

I have to say the pictures never looked realy convincing to me and the ones posted here do not convince me very much eighter.

Could any one show some more pictures that try to prove the point?

I have seen enough "evidence" to believe there could be more on the moon and mars so i'd love to see more on the possible domes.

Click here for more information.