Whats going on at yellowstone?

missvicky
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Hope I did the link right. But has anyone seen this? I just saw it posted on Facebook and don't know if the source is credible or doom porn. I checked here thinking you guys would've been all over it if it's true.

Got to love the CNN video with the map on it. I live in Minnesota and I didn't think I lived so close to Idaho.

Not sure what to make of the information on the rest of that link yet.
thanks.

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So what does our EQ pro's seem to think about this link? Is there any truth to what is stated in the link - about how it looks like Yellowstone is waking up and could become an active volcano once again? Does the US need to be concerned?

missvicky
I checked here thinking you guys would've been all over it if it's true.

And you're right. Since we are not all over it, you can assume correctly that link is the biggest bunch of BS west of the Mississippi. But it's par for the course. Never trust that turner source.

Put simply, the webicorder reading is from station B944 at the lake, which has been in an error state for quite a while. Neither stations H17A or YLT, a mere 3 and 6 kms away respectively, showed a darn thing. And if it was seismic, 99.9 % sure they would. And yes I saw the signature in question on spectro. While it does contain some suspect frequencies crossing over into seismic territory, this is not uncommon for noise or telemetry error. Noise/telemetry error frequently exhibits full spectrum frequencies, from the lowest of the lows to the highest of highs. But the trumping factor is lack of corroboration on nearby stations. The end. Next...

TrueAmerican
Since we are not all over it, you can assume correctly that link is the biggest bunch of BS west of the Mississippi. But it's par for the course. Never trust that turner source.

Amen. I've never seen my webserver this active, even when Slashdot mentioned The Yellowstoner once. Or Dutchsinse. And all because people who can't interpret seismographs do it anyway. Maybe I'll take down that B944 image everyone keeps getting, or replace it with something else... nahhhh, then I'd clearly be a government shill paid by the Interior Department to hide the truth from people. Wouldn't I.

Forgive them, Father. They know not what they do.

Thank you True American and Thought Provoker. I knew I was bringing this to the right place. When I saw that no one on this thread was snoozing right through it I became suspect that it was hype. You guys are awesome. I always check here first if I ever see or hear of something.

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This site is were I go for a reality check.
If I only watched Turner I'd be far back in a secluded cave roasting rattlesnakes and collecting rain water.

Ha. Even the YVO caught wind of this bogus story, and I can promise you they do NOT appreciate people spreading falsehoods about YS. They actually, and rarely, addressed the issue on their site, and it is pretty much exactly what I said:

A story reporting abnormally strong earthquake activity in Yellowstone National Park has been circulating across the Internet over the last few days. In fact, earthquake activity in Yellowstone has been at normal levels for the past several months.

The story appears to be based on a misinterpretation of public "webicorders", which are graphics depicting seismic data, on the University of Utah Seismographic Station (UUSS) web site (UU operates the Yellowstone Seismic Network). A borehole seismometer called "B944", located near the West Thumb region of the Park, has been malfunctioning in recent weeks with strong bursts of electronic noise contaminating its data. These noise bursts appear as wild excursions on the B944 webicorders that can appear alarming to the inexperienced eye.

Along with providing regular monthly updates, the Yellowstone Volcano Observatory also releases topical information statements whenever truly abnormal activity occurs.

volcanoes.usgs.gov...

While I am tempted to tell everyone just to email the YVO directly if there is ever a question, you don't need to. They are busy and underfunded and understaffed. Easier just to come here first and ask one of us that has been watching YS for years and can tell you pretty much the same thing.

the only thrustfull soarce of an upcoming eruption is...when the wildlive is migrating away..then prepare...

Why the fixation with Yellowstone? There are at least 3 other supervolcanoes that could blow and even more semi super ones that could go. Why aren't we keeping a close eye on them?

www.wired.com...

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lets all go to sleep.....that article is clear ! we know now how an super volcano is working and reacting
wake us up when the uplift is an few hundred meters higher :-)
and when its erupts YVO will warn then...


[ any new eruption is more than likely to be small (relative to the caldera-forming massive eruptions), maybe on the order of a Mount St. Helens or Puyehue-Cordón Caulle event. If we were running up to a massive event, then we should expect to see massive signs, like hundreds of meters of uplift (not the centimeters of uplift we see regularly around the caldera). So, if there are signs of an eruption, you should expect that we will see an impressive rhyolite eruption probably one of the best places it could happen — away from large population centers — rather than the far-fetched idea of ending civilization as we know it, so stop that the Costco Meals-for-Year order.]

personally... I belief that something has happend to borehole 44...
the reaction of YVO was like killing an flie with an slash-hammer
seems they last the borehole for ever in an unknown event..propperly chruhsted wat gave the weird readings of an mag.10 EQ

www.quake.utah.edu...
when you click on B44 you get the readings of H17A...

Cinrad
Why the fixation with Yellowstone? There are at least 3 other supervolcanoes that could blow and even more semi super ones that could go. Why aren't we keeping a close eye on them?

There's a world outside of America?

I've always been concerned about terrorists using this volcano to cause widespread harm. Of course you get bogus resources only a few days ago telling us an attempt was made so thankfully most people are privy to these scare tactics and think beyond these news sources. I don't understand how such claims can be made when there hasn't been any elevated activity there. It all comes back to that - if no activity how can we conclude something is up - it isn't.

I know one thing going on soon at Yellowstone.
I am scheduling my 4th vacation there for the end of Summer!

Dianec
I've always been concerned about terrorists using this volcano to cause widespread harm.

Well when terrorists can figure out how to manufacture molten magma and deposit it 10 to 20 km underground to supplement the magma chamber down there, please let us know. That could have geothermal energy applications, and they might be given a pardon in exchange for that technology.

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I'm not sure how you would even begin to do that, especially since science isn't even 100% sure what the eruption trigger mechanism is.

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Then my concerns are laid to rest. Appreciate the feedback.

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LKWY, 8/13/13 - YPC, 1/13/12 - YPP, 9/11/11 - LKWY, 6/14/10 - YFT, 3/23/09 - YPK, 8/31/08 - YNR, 3/14/07 - YDC, 9/16/06

I could go on and on, since this happens to seismometers all the time, but... were all of those indicating an impending eruption, too? If so, it hasn't happened yet, so they'd be a pretty poor indicator. Now look at the entire park's readings during each of those days...

8/13/13 - 1/13/12 - 9/11/11 - 6/14/10 - 3/23/09 - 8/31/08 - 3/14/07 - 9/16/06

They would all be showing roughly the same signals if it was really seismic, just like they did on the day of the Japan quake, or the Indonesian quake; just think of how sensitive they must be to all react like this to a quake halfway around the world...

3/10/11 - 12/25/04

...or like this for quakes that actually happened in the park; see how they all show pretty much the same thing, even on the ones that also show a lot of noise?

1/7/04 - 7/25/05 - 5/8/07 - 8/16/10 - 4/5/11

Is everyone convinced yet that this B944 thing is a non-issue? If not, well, I've done my best. Although, I did tell Hal Turner all of the above and it didn't seem to change his mind. So maybe I'm just... too optimistic... but I had to try. "Deny ignorance" and all that.

PS: here's the entire park on Feb 1st, the infamous B944 day... which of the example days above does it most resemble?

for now YNR is taking an hike with an swarm since yesterday 09-02-14.......