Whats going on at yellowstone?

The YS storms today were intense. We were hit by hailstorm that completely obscured visibility and left several inches of hail in a few minutes. I have attached a pic of the measurement tool on display. I may edit this post to add a few more pics.

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perhaps this YS threat must become an generic Super volcano threat?

couse the Sinabung (at the doorstep of Toba) is erupting now?

hmm
Toba is geografic the opposite of YS?

www.indiadaily.com...

WHAT THE FRACK !!!???

Did you know that natural gas companies are "fracking" within 70 miles of Yellowstone???


billingsgazette.com...


billingsgazette.com...

You all know I can take this and run with it. But I'll let you all figure it out.

Thanks for cracking my brain Gary.

BooBoo46 visits the park in July and a ranger tells them the reason for some dry geysers has to do with the water table.

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sorry!

gotta vent.

I may be paranoid. What am I talking about? I know I am. But I work hard
every day at putting those thoughts in perspective and I am, for the most part very rational.

But. I have to ask myself why should I trust geologists. Either at the YVO, or those that work for the oil and gas industry. Afterall, Tony Hayward is a geologist. And is it too much to suspect that oil and gas companies are cut corners on safety. What's an acceptable risk?

I often think about the time when the geologists from the YVO asked Shirakawa how he calculated that there was mine blasting in Eastern Wyoming.

Now let me get this straight. Yellowstone became the United States of America's first National Park to protect the landscape over the world's largest volcano. But right on the Park's doorstep, the powers that be allow mining and gas drilling to operate.

Fanfrackingtastic

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That is unreal. Fracking in such a delicate system is insane. Is there not anyone living in the area fighting to stop it? Raise your voices, this is not only wrong, it could cause such damage!

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Well I guess I just found something new to worry about!

And the fact that the Toba volcano is the geographic opposite of YS is absolutely freakin' me out!

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Disturbing for sure Robin.

Till now, none has a real clue or decent picture what's beneath YS park and surroundings volcanic wise. We know there is a big magma chamber but how it exactly spreads out, branches out, none knows.

Now we have a bunch of imbeciles fracturing the ground around that area. If, even a small"magma" branch of the hidden caldera can find it's way up to the surface through these man-made fractures people there can be due for some troubles.

Anyway,
Good finding Robin

About the gas co. OK just playing the devils advocate here but,.
Maybe there is nothing to worry about,.
We really don't have our personal team of "geologists" here to tell us that
this is a none issue. so speculation begins,.
At the end of 08 when Yellowstone started activity again,
everybody began a small panic, and it turned out to be nothing.

So maybe the geologists have it under watch and are ok with it cause
it is no real threat?

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That would be nice, but I have just one thing to say: GULF OF MEXICO. Do I need to say anything else? Is this not a big enough wake up call to everyone that the oil/gas giants have EVERYONE in thier back pockets and do whatever the 'frack' they want?

It would be nice to think that they would take every precaution to protect the environment and yes, us. But that simply isn't productive. They seem to do whatever they want, however they want to do it, the environment and little people be damned.

I knew there had been talk of doing this type of drilling but didn't realize it was actually happening. Common sense dictates that creating fractures in an already unstable ecosystem that has a planet-killer potential is just not a good idea.

I just don't get it. What exactly is our government and all of it thousands of branches that are suposed to be there to protect us really for?????

It reminds me of an organization with a couple of hundred employees. One of them is treated very poorly by the supervisor and gooes to human resources for help. This same employee then finds out a short time later that not only didn't Human Resources help them, but took the private information and used it to hurt them even more in an effort to protect the guilty superviosr. You see, human resources isn't really there for the employees, but to look out for the best interest of the amdinistrators. It hurts when you first learn that lesson....but it is an important one to learn.

I figured GOM would be brought into conversation,
And that is a valid point.
Honestly, I am glad I am a long ways from Yellowstone.
because I am aware of it's potential,
But in the same breath not thinking there is an immediate threat
regardless of what ever they do in the mining biz.
Maybe I am just keeping a positive attitude.

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I don't have time to write or debate, and besides, words are easily ignored. As I've found time and time again. So here are some visual demonstrations of why we should be "fracking" with our planet.

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

70 miles from Yellowstone.

Now imagine a flammable geyser.



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I have said all of the following before, I will say it again:

1) Not wise to knock on a hornets nest.

2) One of my biggest fears - turning on the live cam for Old Faithful and seeing lava and/or flames spewing out instead of water - Yikes

Nice find on the video Robin

So what would be the possibility of an explosion from heat.
wouldn't we need a flame

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en.wikipedia.org...

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Frightening really - there is also Static Spark. I have a friend - one day he stopped at the gas station to fill up on gas - the air conditions were just right (or wrong) and when he began fueling, the gas ignited. He was seriously burned but luckily alive.

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Yellowstone's antipode ("geographic opposite") is actually way down here, just north of the Kerguelen Islands:

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It would be impossible for it to be near Toba, since both that and Yellowstone are north of the equator. Opposite side of the globe, nearly, but not a true geographic opposite.

Toba was the most-recent supervolcanic eruption in history, though (~70,000 years ago), so it's the least-likely to blow again right now. That region has always been massively active. Myself, I'm leaning towards Long Valley going up next. It very, very nearly erupted in the late '90s (97? 98?) and hasn't been very quiet recently. Guess I need to make another website to watch it too, hmmmm....

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We already have a Thread here on Long Valley- Quakewatcher started one

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thank you ! pleased to hear that its not opposite..:-)
but the concern is not so much Toba...but a new possible supervolcano wich is beliefed to rise up in years...at the fault-line of sumatra..

the coral-reefs are dying now coused by heating up of the sea-bed near the coast of Toba.. read this articel about it..

www.indiadaily.com...

Where do you see they are fracking within 70 miles of Yellowstone? I drove there from Casper (near where we are fracking) and it was a 7 hr drive to Mammoth. Cheyenne is 3 hours east of me so they would be ten hours out. How far out do you intend to stop drilling so you can "feel safe" with irrational fears? Even if we are "fracking" within 70 miles of Yellowstone what makes you think this is any kind of threat? I don't mean to be disrespectful but I really don't think Yellowstone is a trigger waiting to be set off by human activity many hundreds of miles away. It will blow when it blows, and that will be many life times from now.

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Maybe it's only 50 miles. Still researching. Cody is mighty close to Yellowstone. There is gas production over a wide area of the Bighorn Basin.

www.codyenterprise.com...

The danger. Volitile gases entering Yellowstone's aquifer.

The dangers elsewhere...

www.iacenter.org...