Whats going on at yellowstone?

The earthquakes are so few that they were no longer called a swarm, but they are all at the same place of the swarm, which means it is not over yet...

reply to post by Robin Marks

Arrogance and ignorance.

Pettiness and futility.

Irrelevant? No. Nothing we say hear really matters. We have no authority. This is a wall and our words just graffiti.

I've got bigger issues and I don't want to be part of this discussion anymore.

Nil Bastardi Carborundum Robin. At the end of the day what we say here DOES matter, and you are very much a part of that.

A long time ago the world believed that the Earth was flat (which of course it is ) and certain scientists and astronomers held that this view was not correct. They were ridiculed, threatened with death even. "Such nonsense, of course the Earth is flat otherwise you could not have Heaven above and Hell below." It may seem odd to us now, but it was so in those times. You and many others have a good input into this thread, and in particular you bring the 'round earth' view to the table for discussion. Your theories may be right, I honestly don't know, but if you give up you can be absolutely certain that the world will continue believing the Earth is flat, if you see what I mean.

We do have authority actually, because each one of us in our own individual way is a part of the whole and the whole if moved to do so can create change.

Yup this is a wall, so make the graffiti big enough so that every one can see it.

Yellowstone is unique and so are you, each and every one of you, and this enables us all to take a little away from this thread and disseminate it else where.

Don't stomp off in a rage Robin, grab your spray can and carry on with the graffiti - the mural is not yet complete.


[edit on 24/2/2010 by PuterMan]

reply to post by PuterMan


I bascially have very little to say. I'd be repeating myself. I have fires raging on all fronts. The aggressive criticism is not productive. I don't tell anyone what they can and cannot say here. I've engaged in debate with you and it remained civil. But I can't help jumping in the mud when someone is being a bully. I had to learn to stand up to bullies or be squished like a bug. The problem here is not an isolated case. Our civility and forms of debate have digressed and we have lost the little honour we had achieved historically. Now we scream. I watch NPR just so I can avoid this and still know what's going on in the world. I understand that I am misunderstood out here. I really wasn't writing for you or me. I was writing for the those in the future who find this after the fall of our civilization. Some archeolgist in the future will find this wall of graffetti. I've given up on anyone believing me and I present, and record my ideas because there's nothing else I can do. I've emailed scientists. I tried to get young scientist on You Tube to take my idea and test it. I've even tried to predict so maybe someone would say, "hey wait a minute, he was right." And then investigate from there. I've done all I can. I've written down all my ideas from Hudson Bay, to Altantis(Santorini), and even my wild idea about Sodom and Gamorrah. I developed a hypothesis based on the moon and I demonstated by prognosigation that it was valid. I know the YVO shruggs their shoulders. What else can I do?

You want another prediction? Well that's not very meaningful obviously. However I am thinking there could be a major event during Feb 27-28 with the full moon. Now I've been stressing that it's a new moon after a full moon. But this full moon seems to be the last stroke in the engine. The moon's gravitational pull will only get weaker as the year rolls on. The next new moon will not be very powerful. So if there is any energy left, any pressure left, it will occur as the Full Moon releases it's grip after perigee.

The only other slight chance for the moon having an affect would be somewhere near the end of August and that's doubtful. There's no way to test my hypothesis again for a long time. The next time the moon is having it's maximums in early January will be around the end of 2017.

I still think the lake is the real danger.

One last thing if you could dear Puterman. I asked you once to try my map trick with the circles in Hudson Bay. I said I was no good with maps on the computer. I only know how to write and log on. And I'm surprised I've mastered that. Could you make me a map of Hudson Bay and post it here. Just like I did in my demonstration.

I like graphs and maps. And trust me, I don't want to repeat and I've said everything I have to say. I know the world is round and poch marked. And I know that water makes massive volcanic eruptions. I know that Husdon Bay is three calderas. If you make a good map, you'll see where the edge of one caldera is ground zero for the next eruption.

If you don't like something out here someone has wrote, ignore it. Trust me I know. Nothing makes you feel less important when you're ignored. Well, that and being misunderstood.

www.youtube.com...

Please make this map and post it. Hudson Bay is not just a big sink hole. The eastern end was not from asteroid impact. It is not a fortuitious formation. It's three bullets holes shot from within the earth. Look across Canada. There are bullet holes, poch marks everywhere. Glaciation is not the cause, otherwise Russia would have same terrain and the same about of fresh water lakes. Canada has 70% of the world's fresh water. That's incredible.

But I've said all this stuff before. See I'd only be repeating myself. And without a bunch of scientists or science geeks running down the leads and clues, I'm clueless. I'm still gonna write. That's now becoming an obsession. I'll just have to write the whole story from begining to end somehow.

Pheonix. Think renewal. Think.

Speaking of the Lake, B208 is just now picking up some larger
quakes, whicch are just barely showing on YLA and YLT. I did some
looking today at data on B208 in Dec 25 to Dec 28, 2008 and
indeed it was quite active before the swarm began. What is different
is that currently, most of the activity has been only about 3.8
kilometers from B208, if my math is right. While in 2008 the ones
I checked were almost double this distance. However right now
this new batch are much further away like 11 plus Kilometers.

If they keep coming and the amplitude builds there may be a new
swarm.

reply to post by huntergatherer


I really pray, which is something I very rarely do, that this is another burp, and not a barf from the land of the geothermal gods. I wonder if the ultimate heave can be achieved by crush of the geo-thermal domes in a kind of controled process. Sparing my state of Minnesota from six to twenty feet of ash would be nice since thats where I live. And to think we used to bitch about snow drifts. To do this we would need clean fusion weapons. Thats kind of like the neutron bombs we made for air defense and taking out soviet tanks. Very little residual radiation. And if we use a more traditional type of nuke, and the volcano erupts? Think of Pompay with all those people cut down in the streets. But in this case they would also glow in the dark. This is a topic so scary I don't want to offer any advice, except please be very, very carefull.

reply to post by EngTech36


Could someone please paste a link for me to see PB.B208? I cannot find that on GEE or anywhere else.
Thank you so much.

reply to post by EngTech36


If you go back to look at the 1985 data what you find is that there were in fact three swarms on the trot. The number 3000 quakes applies to the combined swarms, but it is easy to see three distinct swarms. What I am saying therefore is that this, should it happen, is not an unheard of pattern in Yellowstone.

It would seem that swarms are the norm for the old lady. The time we should start getting worried - no rephrase that - packing our bags is when swarms are accompanied by big disruptions in the geyser cycles.(IMHO of course)

Something strange is going on! PBO has not updated their plots page since Friday, 2/19/10. This is very, very unusual for them. I do not remember them ever doing this. Do any of you folks know if they are updating equipment/software or is their satellite out? - Or, is there something going on at Yellowstone they do not want us to see?

pboweb.unavco.org...

pboweb.unavco.org...

AND, Robin, you matter, we all matter in our own way. Maybe today is a good day for you to watch the classic - It's a wonderful life!

reply to post by alexgia


Hi,
If you go to the PBO URL above and click on seismic and then in
the dropdown click on seismic webcorders you have a table
with all the B series instruments. B205, B206, B207, B208 and B944
are all in Yellowstone.

Another way is to use QUACK
www.iris.edu...

There you have to choose the PB network and then in the
second column go down to B208 then choose the date, which
today is the 56 th day of the year, then click the webicorder line.

IF you select network WY you can see other Yellowstone sites.

As for GEE you have to click on Edit then Station Chooser
then select vertical and then scroll down to Extremely Short
Period and click that. Then click Add Network and find PB in the
list. This will add icons on the map which you can click on to
activate, or in the station chooser stations box you can scroll
down to PB.B208 and click on it.

Hope that helps


[edit on 25-2-2010 by EngTech36]

This morning at 11:11:08 B208 had a good sized quake that
appears to be north of B208 as it showed up about equally on
YJC and YMP also. There have been at least 3 aftershocks
as of 16:00 GMT


[edit on 25-2-2010 by EngTech36]

Whilst this particular article does not deal directly with Yellowstone, it does give some credence to Robin's theories of gravitation induced earthquakes and their relevance to Yellowstone and thus I consider it proper to include it on this thread.

Sun and Moon trigger deep tremors on San Andreas fault

In particular I would direct you to this statement

Looking along the peak ridgeline of the Pinnacle National Monument. These jagged spires are the result of an ancient volcano, erosion and tectonic uplift along the San Andreas Fault. The faint tug of the sun and moon on the San Andreas Fault stimulates tremors deep underground, suggesting that the rock 15 miles below is lubricated with highly pressurized water that allows the rock to slip with little effort.

Does pressurised water ring any bells?

reply to post by EngTech36


Thank you Thank you that helps emensly...

reply to post by PuterMan


Thanks for your comments. I agree with the Sun and Moon
connection. I have not gone back and analyzed it but, I
generally get the feeling that there are 2 periods during 24 hours
when quake activity seems to pick up. When they do studies on
this there is a big variable that makes it difficult. In some
places the quakes might be triggered as the tug builds up.
Others might be triggered as the tug starts to diminish.

I have noticed that at night at the present time things get real
quiet, but then like last night right in the middle of the quiet the
quake north of B208 occurred.

I have included several instruments in Redlands CA to watch
and it amazes me how often something happens there within
minutes of something happening in Yellowstone or vice versa.
Maybe just coincidence.

Thanks


[edit on 25-2-2010 by EngTech36]

reply to post by EngTech36


It is not entirely true that YELL reflects the activity of Redlands, CA. Between 13 February and 23 February 2010 an area of about 9 square kilometres, about 5 kilometres south of Redlands, CA experienced about 150 earthquakes measuring between 1.0 and 4.1. I have not queried to determine the total number of earthquakes occurring during the period.

There was not an equivalent energy release in Yellowstone.

I have not monitored appropriate recorders to see a distinct relationship between small events in the two locations.




[edit on 25-2-2010 by Arluk]

I don't see how this would've been a mine blast at 01:00MST at YMR-

www.isthisthingon.org...

reply to post by PuterMan


I brought that article up so many times I couldn't anymore. I need and want to stop writing. But I want one thing burned into my brain. I want to see you do the geometry excerise and I want to see it through your eyes. Each circle should intersect. And it is relevant because it is a chain of caldera. In fact my chain is true because it interlinks. It's more relevant than 50% of what I've written here. But I really need to break. I just want that image to be stuck on here to testify. It was near the begining of my journey, I want it to be the last thing I say for now.

Sometimes a picture says a thousand words.



And I'll believe it will matter when someone in authority aknowledges my hypothesises as valid and that it demands study and inquiries and debate. Find someone with power or influence to convince. You find a scientist or science student to take up the torch. At the moment I can't, I'm a blattering space cadet can figure out his next step in his personal trials. I got nothing left. Survival and endurance are my next tests. And an absolute sacrifice. And no win decisions. This was a fun obsession. The real battle starts the moment I exit this bubble.

Pop

[edit on 25-2-2010 by Robin Marks]

If there are any night owls on here lurking...Jake Lowenstern is being interviewed on Coast to Coast A.M....you can stream it here...or find it on your am radios....

Hi! My part spanish cousin with a Phd recently moved to Venezeula (sp?)
from San Diego. Maybe people should be thinking about moving to Mexico and South America. A volcano that has blown up four previous times in Earth's history is 600,000 years overdue for another session. The ash fall out beds from the past consist of 2/3 or the United States. If this happenes now, people will die, animals will die, farmland will be ruined and the rest of us will deal with dark skies for a long while. Food will be an issue for all. Get a greenhouse with strong lights. The air maybe unbreatheable in the ash fallout areas. I think I read cars will be ruined by the sulfuric ash erroding the engine. The air would be like glass ceramic particles. I have told my relatives in the midwest to prepare BOB, get army gas masks, store extra gas in gas cans, and store food and water.... no one ever listens.
I am the practical paraniod person according to them. Except I am not paranoid I just can read the signs. Waiting last minute would be too late, the highways would be like a hurricane is comming and cars dead in the road when they run out of gas. All hell would break loose.... Exactly how smart is it to live near a volcano? Remember Pompei? I can't believe people today live near that thing. That's just asking for trouble.

heavy reaction from yelly ...at the 7.0 rhykhu quacke in japan

[edit on 26-2-2010 by ressiv]

Originally posted by frugal
Hi! My part spanish cousin with a Phd recently moved to Venezeula (sp?)
from San Diego. Maybe people should be thinking about moving to Mexico and South America. A volcano that has blown up four previous times in Earth's history is 600,000 years overdue for another session. The ash fall out beds from the past consist of 2/3 or the United States. If this happenes now, people will die, animals will die, farmland will be ruined and the rest of us will deal with dark skies for a long while. Food will be an issue for all. Get a greenhouse with strong lights. The air maybe unbreatheable in the ash fallout areas. I think I read cars will be ruined by the sulfuric ash erroding the engine. The air would be like glass ceramic particles. I have told my relatives in the midwest to prepare BOB, get army gas masks, store extra gas in gas cans, and store food and water.... no one ever listens.
I am the practical paraniod person according to them. Except I am not paranoid I just can read the signs. Waiting last minute would be too late, the highways would be like a hurricane is comming and cars dead in the road when they run out of gas. All hell would break loose.... Exactly how smart is it to live near a volcano? Remember Pompei? I can't believe people today live near that thing. That's just asking for trouble.

"Exactly how smart is it to live near a volcano?"

And you're advocating that people move to Mexico or South America? LOL. Have you ever looked a map?

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What effect did it have on Yellowstone?