Whats going on at yellowstone?

reply to post by akjen


Not to repeat myself but I believe sometime in mid February NASA has ordered a "URGENT" Thermal imaging low orbit flyby to look for increases in thermal emissions...

Mt Redoubt RDN Webicorder lookin' spazed out between 20:00 - 01:30 2/6-2/7
volcanoes.usgs.gov...

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reply to post by Hx3_1963


lol Hx, I don't mean to really laugh... but it looks like there's going to be a lot of repeating going on. Even though many conclusions have happened, some people are ready to rehash some of the same topics that occurred a while back in this thread and pretend that none of the facts or conclusions even happened. Sorry you have to repeat yourself for some of the same things.

Oh well. I guess some people will try to find what they want regardless. It's like someone looking for Good Luck. They'll point out every coincidence as being luck and even call random things lucky. Where's my rabbit's foot?

reply to post by ekhodust


It's OK I don't mind, but, just don't want to get demoted...I installed it in the archives...

Related links/data for active yellowstone thread
www.abovetopsecret.com...

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reply to post by Hx3_1963


Events that are contained in the USGS listings can be viewed in Google Earth using my QuakeData or QuakeData Lite programs. When you click on an event it creates a KML for the event in your My Documents or Documents folder. There is an individual KML for each event. Don't know if that helps? The kml files display date and time to the second. Unfortunately of course they only show 1.0+ mag.

I am working on getting ANSS data in, my only problem with that being that the ANSS data has not ID numbers, so I am going to have to create them.

reply to post by akjen


Well, there is a lot more involved to that than a simple check list. You've got to look at the intensities and frequencies involved in all of the various things on that check list. And so far, with some thorough research and such... you'll notice that while some of them might seem to be where you can check them off, they might not be as intense or frequent as they really should be and so it kinda makes the whole case moot. At least that's just my opinion. I'm not really going to try to back it up or argue it since it is strictly opinion. hehe

reply to post by Hx3_1963

Oh, woops - sorry I must be a chum.. Please forgive but I only have limited gaps throughout my day to read every line in this thread. I await the fly-over with an eager mind!
I’m not a doomsy gloomsy but YS has a small mental part to play in a gigantic mental puzzle of mine so I can’t help but find it ‘simply’ intriguing and believe the efforts I’ve seen displayed here are quite grand in the scheme of understanding the anonymity of Yellowstone Volcano. I’m not a thrill seeker, well, I have my own backyard for that. My solemn apologies for the continuous reminder to look at a global figure vs. a detail of mass distraction – I love the boiling frog theory and it has played so true throughout many historic events. I must, as well, give my apologies because I’m not here to score any points of merit or egotistical indulgence (not pointed at you or anyone directly) – more or less it’s all just brain candy for me.. Tata for now and thanks for your willingness to share information and yes, even repeat it on occasion..

reply to post by akjen


Sorry Akjen if I sounded pretentious. I wasn't trying to. But, you're right. It is rather interesting to finally see how our world works instead of just what we're told. It's fascinating! hehe On the plus side, I've been reading a lot about the inflation and it looks like it was dramatic, but it has slowed down a lot too. Not really sinking, but definitely slowing down.

And this is a little off-topic but it makes me giggle... when people say, "Is this the calm before the storm?" Why can't it just be the calm? I mean, what was it before all these events started happening? What if THAT was the calm before the storm? I dunno. Sometimes statements can be more powerful than people think. lol

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reply to post by PuterMan


Well this is interesting...could it put more than one event at a time in the file...Google has a animation feature... I'll have to break out the calculator to scale it so it doesn't turning a "Gods and Generals" scale video LoL

Nevermind...I'll live by my Motto/Signature...but this is sounding more "fun" by the minute...guess I could take it off the back burner and put it on the warmer!!!


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Purely as a matter of interest, the article about the aquifers mentioned 1 or 2 inches of rainfall. I seem to recall during my education at Noah's Primary School just before the flood that 1" of rain is 101 TONS of water per acre! That's a lot of water.

Oops, just looked it up. Seems my memory was not quite accurate. 113.31 tons, but then I suppose it depends upon what you call a ton.

www.ag.ndsu.nodak.edu...

Just found that. The article uses short tons (2000lb per ton as opposed to 2250 lb) so I was right sort of.

Edit: Just another thought. Some time ago I pointed out that of all the available stats in the area, the lake outlet was the only one show a trend upwards consistently since the swarm. I will try and find time to check this again.

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reply to post by ekhodust


NP; We are all here, correct me if I’m wrong, because we all ‘feel’ something is NOT right with our environment. People can call it whatever they like but we are here because we feel the storm – whatever the storm may be..
The first time I was knocked to the ground from an earthquake I was 6 years old.. The first time I saw a volcanic ash cloud submerge the daylight I was 10 and again when I was 12. Back then no one had any idea how to accurately predict these events and to this day I don’t think there is the funding or the ‘senses’ to accurately predict them now. My brother can hear earthquakes before they hit and before the last Denali quake he called to warn me the night before..That is why the .wav files are sooo interesting to me.. I would like to see a civilian congregation of people busting through these mysteries and I just love all the opinions, questions, and conclusions drawn on this thread..I’m no scientist but I do say kudos to those reaching to educate and involve people into their analysis because I don’t think we could learn anything without it..

reply to post by Hx3_1963


It should be relatively easy to concatenate the events, but I am not sure how KMZ files work. I will have to investigate one.

reply to post by PuterMan


Time and Animation

code.google.com...

I feel like Roddney Dangerfield in back to school LoL....

reply to post by PuterMan


If I may interject Puterman (I always knew the Irish would save the world ) but being in the field, water levels can rise by the inches like pronto if the conditions are right.. Everytime we get a warm day it can increase output within minutes to dangerous levels from glacier melting. Does YS have any glaciers that feed the lake or the input/output rivers/streams?

reply to post by Hx3_1963


Mm, that looks straight forward enough - as it always does until you actually come to try it!!

I need to get the ANSS data sorted so we can get the lesser quakes as well. It could take a few days or more as I am very busy at work, but I will be working on it.

reply to post by akjen


I believe I am correct in saying that there are 143 feeds to the lake. I don't know about glaciers - are there any in the park or surrounds?

I would have thought that rainfall, melt (if any) etc, would have not produced such a slow gradual continuous rise in the levels, but I may be wrong there. I am not saying that the trend is necessarily significant, although of course being a conspiracy site I have to hint at that. It may be perfectly ordinary and natural - it just interests me.

By the way, I have no doubt that the Irish will save the world - probably by the copious administration of Guiness - but regrettably I am a stranger in a foreign land. Welsh origins actually.

reply to post by PuterMan

Well, I have a hard time believing that you can live in Ireland for too long before becoming Irish! Sorry, I’m a fan of the culture..
Having to make years of creek/river crossing I can only tell you this – when weather plays a part it happens quick and sudden at least round these parts.. Precipitation, glacier melt, etc.. will create sporadic, significant increase in water levels.. Usually when the temp is below freezing you will see the lowest water levels..

Originally posted by akjen
reply to post by PuterMan

 

Well, I have a hard time believing that you can live in Ireland for too long before becoming Irish!

Well you would be right about that so you would. 'Tis a grand place.

Having to make years of creek/river crossing I can only tell you this – when weather plays a part it happens quick and sudden at least round these parts.. Precipitation, glacier melt, etc.. will create sporadic, significant increase in water levels.. Usually when the temp is below freezing you will see the lowest water levels..

So a slow and gradual climbing up the scale might not be attributable to precipitation, melt etc?

By looking at this page we can see that water discharge from Yellowstone lake tops on end June/beginning of July at 4610 cubic feet per second, based on an 80 years average.

What I'm asking is why would a sudden increase in flow due to melting ice, increased rain, etc, be right now a potential seismic hazard if during summer it's almost 10 times higher than normal anyway?

reply to post by Shirakawa


Hi Shirakawa, I was not saying it was an increased seismic hazard. You read too much into it! I just find it interesting as I said.

By the way Hx3

I thought I had struck lucky as ANSS offers a KML file download, but it turned out to be a KMZ. I can't do anything with that so back to how I was going to tackle it originally, but since it should contain all the earthquakes from 2008/12/27 00:00:00 to 2009/02/07 10:30 GMT I thought it might be interesting and have placed it on my download site (address in signature)

The file is YellowstoneQuakes2008_12_27-2009_02_07.kmz


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reply to post by PuterMan


I was talking of potential seismic hazard!

Anyway, thanks for the kml!
I'm also trying to download another version with smaller earthquakes (with magnitude lower than 1.0), but they take forever to process from the ANSS website.

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