Whats going on at yellowstone?

reply to post by AlwaysWondering


Check out this page.

More in detail this is what they mean for a NORMAL volcano alert level:

Volcano is in typical background, noneruptive state
or, after a change from a higher level,
volcanic activity has ceased and volcano has returned to noneruptive background state.

Originally posted by startx.jeff

Originally posted by AlwaysWondering
I didn't see this posted any where (hopefully I didn't miss it...I have been reading very regularly since page 75...and man, what a great place to talk about theories in a rational way...awesome) --- USGS has once again posted Yellowstone on the Elevated Volcano Activity Tab. This is the 3rd time since the swarm I have noticed this happens.

My question is this --- if there is enough information for the USGS to move Yellowstone from the "US Volcano Alerts" tab to the "Elevated Status Volcanoes" tab, why wouldn't that be enough to issue some kind of alert to the public?????

Elevated Status Volcanoes

Thanks all for posting. You guys are awesome!

P

The USGS moves a volcano to elevated status if they have to issue a press release / statement about activity at the volcano. (eg: swarm, greater than background noise being researched)

It's not a change in alert status, just that they are paying extra attention. And they do issue information to the public in the form of press updates. I believe you'll find a number of them on the status page for the YVO and the USGS.

Really? as of 10:37 EST is shows Green in my browser...somethings amiss here...alot of stuff in/out of view...changing in a moment...I know they have lots of data to verify but if that's the case why not withhold it all till it is...THEY'RE creating alot of doubt and discontent by changing the rules every hour...like the GOV & this Bailout "stuff"

Hx3

reply to post by startx.jeff


Thank you for the response. To me, moving Yellowstone back to Elevated status validates that the actions of today warrant a closer look....and am really thankful for a site like this where information is gathered and then shared.

I have read the press release that accompanies the moving to the elevated status but didn't know if those press releases are sent out to the media or if they are merely on the USGS web site should the media care to look.

I did find it interesting that the USGS is calling this, for now, a 2nd swarm (a modest swarm is the exact verbiage). Will have to see what's next.

P

Really? as of 10:37 EST is shows Green in my browser...somethings amiss here...alot of stuff in/out of view...changing in a moment...I know they have lots of data to verify but if that's the case why not withhold it all till it is...THEY'RE creating alot of doubt and discontent by changing the rules every hour...like the GOV & this Bailout "stuff"

Hx3

Hx3 - The volcano is moved to the elevated status page if they have to release a public statement about activity at the location. There is no change in alert status. It remains green.

They did, however release a statement today about the 3.3 EQ at the edge of the caldera earlier today, and that warranted moving the volcano to the elevated activity page without a change in alert level.

[edit on 1/9/2009 by startx.jeff]

Doing a search of the activity in the Yellow Stone area I came across this information which provides real time activity.

volcanoes.usgs.gov...

reply to post by startx.jeff


K Thanks...I still think it's Hokey...it's Elevated...but it's still green? 2 subwarnings are still green OK...but pleassssssseeeeee...sounds like Double Talk to me still..."The Banks broke...but...the Government is insuring your deposits..."

Hx3

reply to post by Hx3_1963


Sorry, not too relevant but does explain alot about the system....
It's gone and bd, bd, bd, that's all folks! The end.
What gives us the right to even ask where OUR money went?








[edit on 9-1-2009 by dodadoom]

reply to post by meagerhair


Got to the seismic link at the top of the page; pull down and go to Network Information.... it opens a google topigraphic map enlarge with the slider and you can see exactly where all "5" are located.


to add
You can also click on the station notes and open a pdf about the instalation and the step by step process is a few pages in. Also shows any maintence done on the system to date.

[edit on 9-1-2009 by xoxo stacie]

Originally posted by Hx3_1963
reply to post by startx.jeff

 

K Thanks...I still think it's Hokey...it's Elevated...but it's still green? 2 subwarnings are still green OK...but pleassssssseeeeee...sounds like Double Talk to me still..."The Banks broke...but...the Government is insuring your deposits..."

Hx3

Nobody can explain government bureaucracy - "no good deed goes unpunished" is the motto in some media relations shops.

They are trying to make it easy for the public to find information and I strongly believe that they take their job seriously. Sometimes the communication of "task management" is harder than "content management".

Lots of data, lots of touch points, and very little information..

and eshake shakes my browser with a 2.7 in Central Alaska.

Smacking head because I just realized you meant the Quake Watch thread and were not calling me out for something.

Post deleted, move along, nothing to see here...

[edit on 9-1-2009 by quakewatcher]

reply to post by xoxo stacie


Thanks.

I found this really neat neat video by the makers of the strainmeters for the PBO on how they work.

GTSM Technologies Video on how Bore Hole Strain Meters work.

reply to post by Shirakawa


Withholding local Intermountain information regarding seismic events seems to be a significant issue with the USGS. If people from several states notified their elected officials of this I'm sure it would change. It appears that everywhere else real-time reporting of seismic events is occurring.

As this is government information it is not proprietary nor is it an issue of national security therefore there should not be a time delay in posting.

The delay in posting is adversely affecting the ability of individuals/scientists outside of government to provide timely review of time sensitive data.

It is time to be heard.

Contact people who can make a difference - USGS does not like inquiries by Congressionals, but needs to be held accountable to those it serves.

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As for the discussion of other EQ's near Missoula. They are not unheard of but not common events. Is not an active area but there are known faults throughout the region. To my knowledge the last EQ greater than 3.0 was an event on 22 March 2006 near Eureka (less than 100 miles NW of this evening's event) registering 4.2. There are also events known in 1935 and September 1945 for the Flathead Lake area (about 50 miles N) which were felt throughout the region - as far away as Walla Walla, WA and recorded in Spokane, WA.

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It is interesting there is little coverage of the earthquake near Townsend, MT on Thursday. It is another example of information not leaving the Utah centre for dissemination on the main USGS page. It is still a recorded event on the following map. It should be on the national map, but again UT seems to be slipping up - besides it has not yet been reviewed . . .

www.quake.utah.edu...



Thank you to everybody for keeping this thread going. Although occasionally entertaining, it is overall a very good repository of information and often well thought out. Pursue what you should be being provided, envoke change, and you will be satisfied.

Hey have you guys noticed the new seismon's that have come online since yesterday? There is some new ones up by alaske too...Guess they want to keep a closer eye on things up there too.

Originally posted by quakewatcher
Smacking head because I just realized you meant the Quake Watch thread and were not calling me out for something.

Post deleted, move along, nothing to see here...

[edit on 9-1-2009 by quakewatcher]

That's alright. I just spent 30 minutes of back tracking those Avatar threads to see what happened. When I closed my browser the post was gone. lol

Another item.
Is it just me or is LKWY still down?

reply to post by j2000


It's true...been down for most of the day

Hx3

Still down as far as I can see, but then there was this post:

I don't know where to find a link to a working feed of lkwy if there is one.

Originally posted by meagerhair
I have found a bore hole strain meter and seismo in a deep bore hole on the the West Thumb of the lake. This is not the West Thumb Webicorder. This puppy was drilled to total depth of 500ft in AUGUST of 2008. The seismo is at 375ft and the strainmeter is at 394ft. See drawing and link to site below.

I was out digging in the UNAVCO site. Intresting thier live feed for GPS data link for LKWY is up and running fine.

In digging around a little I found another deep bore seismo on the lake that is not on the webicorder data feeds. This animal is new and was drilled in last year and even has a strain gage at depth.

There is a ton of data you can pull up on it but I have to do more reaserach to figure out what I'm looking at. I thought I would post it and maybe someone knows what they are looking at or will glean more from the research. It is located out on the thumb just to the East of the ranger station you have to plot the lat and long from the website to get a fix since the map doesn't load.

Link to Station B944

Drawing detail for bore hole B944

Originally posted by Shirakawa
reply to post by operation mindcrime

 

A teleseism is a technical term for "distant earthquake".
By the way, I suggest people to open GEE, then add the WY network in the Station Chooser and then monitor the YPC station's EHZ channel (which is not included in the webicorder page). It's almost in the middle of the "action", and catches even the smallest earthquakes occurring beneath there.

I've tried - GEE finds it, adds it, but then there are no stations, no way to access it . . . . I've tried multiple times.

Any suggestions?

Here's another animated GIF of today's YSNP Seismograph traces

farm4.static.flickr.com...

If you haven't followed this, this is just an animated GIF file of all of the seismographs in Yellowstone set up to display one after the other over and over so that you can pick out the "real" events from local noise that might happen on only one seismograph.

The more stations that show the event, the larger and more "valid" it probably was.

Today has been relatively active compared to the last few days in Yellowstone. The relative lack of wind at most sites within the park makes for a much "cleaner" background, too. So this has been a good day as far as quake viewing goes ;-)

The file is approximately 1.56 Megabytes. It may take a while to download to your computer. Only after it's fully downloaded will the animation pick up to its full speed.

The only data from LKWY on the UNVACO feed is the GPS data. But the site obvoisly has power they must have an issue with the Seismo or it's transmission links

During my interview with Dr. Louis Turi, he mentioned January 18 and 19, 2009 as dates in which something will cause forced relocation. He predicted Katrina and the Asian tsunami. I immediately asked him about Yellowstone and the most recent earthquakes and he would not admit/deny that this could be it.