Whats going on at yellowstone?

reply to post by geogeek


I agree with this.

Before assuming that there is some conspiracy here, it is much more logical to assume that the data is becoming much more refined and accurate now.

Think of how much things have changed in the electronics and computer equipment that consumers are familiar with over that same period. It's many orders of magnitude of improvement. That time period has been phenomenal in terms of the very kinds of technology that are used to measure and analyze these kinds of signals.

The first thing that jumped into my mind after reading that post about the depths changing was simply that the data was probably now a lot more accurate and if we could somehow go back in time and re-record the seismic movements from the earlier events, and then re-analyze them using modern tools, we'd probably find that the depths would move upwards, too.

In the '70s, a fully functional multi-track audio recording studio would have set you back between 1/4 and 1/2 million dollars. Today, I can download a free application that will run on a PC which will do 64 track 24 Bit 96 Khz digital recording and mixing, and do it better and in an automated fashion.

Sure, I'll still need expensive microphones, pre-amps, and a high-quality sound card to make it work, but literally, for under ten thousand dollars, anyone can now have a multi-track recording and mixing studio that is arguably better than what even the most well-funded record company could have afforded back then.

As computers have gotten more powerful and inexpensive, and as people have had the tools and the motivation to put in the effort to study all of this using these improved tools, the understanding of every bit of this has certainly improved.

So while I have no way to know if things are being hidden from us or not, I tend to doubt that. It'd take a conspiracy of thousands of individuals who are not that tightly connected to cover it up. It doesn't seem likely.

Not to throw too much water on all of this fun, but here's how I see it:

The USGS is doing their best to actually understand what's going on. They've got their hands full just doing the real work, let alone wasting time devising an elaborate way to fool the world by altering or editing things.

The older data on earthquakes is probably incomplete at best, but slowly gets better and better over time, leading to more accurate and highly refined models, measurements, and interpretations.

While I'm sure that the officials are extremely careful to avoid unnecessarily alarming us all, and thus are probably quite conservative about issuing dire doomsday warnings, I'm also convinced that the people involved are doing their best to balance this all.

I, for one, do NOT want to load up my family and pets and try to pick out the most valuable material objects in my home, and hit the road along with everyone else, traveling to God knows where only to find out that it was a false alarm.

I feel terribly sorry for people when I see them forced to evacuate due to hurricanes, floods, wildfires, etc. I shudder to think how it must be.

I may be a trusting sort, but I honestly think we're getting good data.

But hey, if this wasn't fun, nobody would be on a site like this, I guess

Originally posted by geogeek
reply to post by RFBurns

 

your an EE, eh ... I get it now : "RFBurns" (tee hee ... )

[edit on 9-1-2009 by geogeek]

I've had an RF Burn. Not fun. But it wasn't serious either. Stay away from the feedline....

New quake, around 3 mag, this time north of the lake.

earthquake.usgs.gov...

Look at the webicorders!
Two significant EQs stroke just a few minutes ago!

I guess the first is a foreshock?

[edit on 2009/1/9 by Shirakawa]

Did I just see a M3 pop up at YS?

Originally posted by Shirakawa
Look at the webicorders!
Two significant EQs stroke just a few minutes ago!

The location is consitent with the general northward movement of the quakes to date. I'm glad to see them take place outside of the lake, though- I didn't like the idea of lava interacting with a huge lake. Also, it's less speculative what is going on outside of a lake- anyone can go and see for themselves.

Yup it is on most of the recorders.
Oh yeah....GoGators

[edit on 1/9/2009 by Demogator]

3.0 Quake minutes ago, North/North East of the swarm area. A good bit of separation distance wise though.

3.0 Ml - YELLOWSTONE NAT. PARK, WYOMING
Preliminary Earthquake Report Magnitude 3.0 Ml
Date-Time

* 9 Jan 2009 18:17:32 UTC
* 9 Jan 2009 11:17:32 near epicenter
* 9 Jan 2009 11:17:32 standard time in your timezone

Location 44.699N 110.254W
Depth 0 km
Distances

* 43 km (27 miles) SW (215 degrees) of Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
* 52 km (32 miles) SE (136 degrees) of Gardiner, MT
* 67 km (42 miles) E (86 degrees) of West Yellowstone, MT
* 459 km (285 miles) NNE (16 degrees) of Salt Lake City, UT

Location Uncertainty Horizontal: 0.9 km; Vertical 10.1 km
Parameters Nph = 45; Dmin = 7.0 km; Rmss = 0.70 seconds; Gp = 54°
M-type = Ml; Version = 1
Event ID UU 00002864

For updates, maps, and technical information, see:
Event Page
or
U.S.G.S. Earthquake Hazards Program

University of Utah Seismograph Stations
University of Utah

www.seis.utah.edu...

I cant find todays webicorder for the Lake via Yellowstone Volcano Observatory; any other links?.. Mary Lake and a few other locations are whipping out some activity.. Any status?

Originally posted by rigel434
New quake, around 3 mag, this time north of the lake.

earthquake.usgs.gov...

i was just about to add that 3.0 glad i checked first

I've been reading this thread for a while and I thought you should read this article in the Casper Star Tribune from today. I'm really new at this, so I'm including the link and hope it works. It has a comment from Tom Lakosh at the end. If the link doesn't work, just go to www.casperstartribune.com

www.casperstartribune.com...

And I was *just* about to start tuning Yellowstone out. It's like the volcano is saying "hey guys, don't forget about me!"

Originally posted by Hx3_1963
Did I just see a M3 pop up at YS?

Looks that way,

Long valley just got a 2.7 bump too.

The latest I could download for now:

farm4.static.flickr.com...

It seems to take a while for the data to be downloaded and posted to these. I'll try again in a half hour or so to see if they're all more complete for that event.

EDIT to add...:

Also: Isn't it nice to have a calm day today? It's nice here in Casper (for a change) and from the looks of the webicorders in YSNP, it must be calm there, too. It makes it a lot easier to see the real events when there's not so much noise.

[edit on 2009/1/9 by VX-7R]

Looks like it's been upgraded to a 3.3.

earthquake.usgs.gov...

I have a question: did this quake occur now totally by chance or could the swarm of the past days have upset some faults and caused it? Or could the cause of both the swarm and this EQ north of it be the same?

[edit on 2009/1/9 by Shirakawa]

reply to post by rigel434


I think the San Bernadino Ca. mountains (last nights 4.5) and Yellowstone
are having a little talk.

reply to post by rigel434


since there was just a recent 3.0 i wonder if thequakes will b now getting stronger

00002864 uu 2 09/01/2009 18:17 44.6778 -110.2543 3.3 20 0.20 Yellowstone National Park. Wyoming

Anyone noticed this is .2 km deep

[edit on 9-1-2009 by PuterMan]

I make this approximately at Yellowstone Falls


[edit on 9-1-2009 by PuterMan]

Originally posted by spinkyboo
reply to post by rigel434

 

I think the San Bernadino Ca. mountains (last nights 4.5) and Yellowstone
are having a little talk.

naw thats long valley the other caldera in cali that just had a 2.5 right after the 3.o in ys shoould we worry?


correction that wasa 3.3 in ys

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