Whats going on at yellowstone?

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Thank you for the link!
The rest of my comment here was redundant.


[edit on 8-1-2009 by dodadoom]

Originally posted by j2000

Originally posted by MrObserver
Wind!!! I don't buy it.

Look at YML, that I do not believe is wind.

Also, YMP - YMR - YLT - YMV -

These are starting to look like a couple of weeks ago with the lines so freq. that they all cross over. Like a 3 yr old again.

totally agree with the both of you. the wind is not even blowing around the steam at the geysers on the live web cam,
it is defin something increasing in power, whether it be underneath the earth or above, u have to go with something is causeing the noise from down below, wind does not show up like that
www.seis.utah.edu...

Originally posted by Shirakawa
Is anybody of you using that cool GEE program able to display pseudo-realtime seismic data from US.LKWY station? I can't. At the moment I'm displaying data from TA.H17A and TA.H18A which are the closest to it.

where is this GEE site & program ..????... can U change the time scale ???

MOOW and TPAW is back up.

FLWY is now down

This wind theory is BS.

Those graphs are going crazy right now and the wind is squat all morning and Yellowstone National Park. This is from accuweather from this morning.
Thursday Morning, January 8
www.accuweather.com...

[edit on 8-1-2009 by j2000]

Originally posted by Mushussu

Originally posted by pantangele
A request for a new feature on the board...

Beside the blue star which allows users to provide a positive rating for a post should be a red star that can allow users to indicate that the post contains new, pertinent information. At this point, I'd just be scanning for red posts and those with lots of stars. Otherwise the thread is spinning its wheels.

Good Idea but it may have a problem.
New people coming in , and they do, say they have read the thread(to long to be credible statement now) come in with valid concerns and their beginnings of research and will unknowingly repost and repost. It gets old of course, they mean well.

The conversations start spinning wheels again and then there are arguments if not down right nasty throws at one another .
Those of us who have been on this thread from at least the first 20 pages have seen it over and over. And then, we have good interested people who out of frustration, out of repetition , WITH a good history of where this thread HAS already been.. Drop out.
Valuable resource gone.

It would be nice to have continuity.
If red stars are handed out
Who is going to be in charge of the red stars?
Otherwise, we will soon see a parade of red stars as well.

All my best always,
Mushussu




[edit on 8-1-2009 by Mushussu]

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I think it would be very helpful if the informative posts could be copied to a stickied thread that could easily be read through to catch people up to spead, while this one continues.

Originally posted by geogeek

Originally posted by Shirakawa
Is anybody of you using that cool GEE program able to display pseudo-realtime seismic data from US.LKWY station? I can't. At the moment I'm displaying data from TA.H17A and TA.H18A which are the closest to it.

where is this GEE site & program ..????... can U change the time scale ???

I do believe this is the GEE you speak of
www.seis.sc.edu...

use it wisely my friend

(I ain't got a danny if you can fiddle with it's settings)

Originally posted by steve95988

Originally posted by j2000

Originally posted by MrObserver
Wind!!! I don't buy it.

Look at YML, that I do not believe is wind.

Also, YMP - YMR - YLT - YMV -

These are starting to look like a couple of weeks ago with the lines so freq. that they all cross over. Like a 3 yr old again.

totally agree with the both of you. the wind is not even blowing around the steam at the geysers on the live web cam,
it is defin something increasing in power, whether it be underneath the earth or above, u have to go with something is causeing the noise from down below, wind does not show up like that
www.seis.utah.edu...

This is the link that you can look at all of them at once in Thumbnails.
This is the best by far to keep an eye on them all.

www.isthisthingon.org...

Littleflower, that is a great idea but it might limit the "real" information by someone personally deciding what is important or relevant. (you know the way the Pwrs T@ B do it?) Maybe its not really important anyway. But, maybe it would be to the person that didn't hear it. They may have no other place that explains it to them like we do.
This is bigger than all of us! We need a goal like we had when we went 4 the moon here! If readers are as dedicated and into this as we are, they should take the time to go back and review! We should expect a super thread, to match figuring out a super volcano! I would think.
That way they can do the research right there for themselves, too!
Thereby starting the process of people using their own thought processes for a change! (For lack of a better way to put it.)
At some point we should take what we have though, and just start a new thread and continue on. Maybe before 2008-9 swarm and after? A thought.

Or - Yellowstone - Jan. 2009 ,
Yellowstone Swarm - Feb. 2009,
Or similar or something.

Oh also, there is the thread by sageturkey we should be putting the links and technical info into anyway. Have we all been doing that by chance?
I admit I haven't.






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[edit on 8-1-2009 by dodadoom]

Anyone with Usenet access might like to pop over to sci.geo.earthquakes. After a few "tumbleweed" moments from what i guess are pro, semi pro and amateur EQ folks there's a bit of a discussion started up on our (now famous!) TSG!

Threads are "Anyone any ideas?"

"Nice little swarm we're having in Yellowstone today, eh?"

"YELLOWSTONE IS THIS THE BIG ONE ?"

And i also leapt into "The return of amateur science" for obvious reasons!

Keep it peaceful in there chaps, it's a quiet, nerdy kind of place. Tin foil hats left at the door i think is the best way to put it! ;o)

Cuddly toy for the first one to get my Usenet nym!

Laz

[edit on 8-1-2009 by Lazarus Long]

Originally posted by j2000
This wind theory is BS.

Those graphs are going crazy right now and the wind is squat all morning and Yellowstone National Park. This is from accuweather from this morning.
Thursday Morning, January 8
www.accuweather.com...

[edit on 8-1-2009 by j2000]

from weatherunderground 1 minute ago



Yellowstone, Wyoming (Airport)
Updated: 146 hr 42 min 31 sec ago
This station is not reporting!
Unknown
-1 °C
N/A
Windchill: -7 °C
Humidity: 82%
Dew Point: -3 °C
TextWind: 28 km/h / 7.7 m/s from the West
TextWind Gust: 54 km/h / 14.9 m/s
Pressure: 994 hPa (Falling)
Visibility: -
Elevation: 2368 m
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OOPS its dead , my apologies ...

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[edit on 8-1-2009 by geogeek]

reply to post by j2000


Thanks this is really usefull.

reply to post by Shirakawa

Hi Shirakawa,

you were pretty good on the math, so I don't know why you got that bad reaction from the other poster who suggested you were being saccastic. After all, P-waves move pretty fast, so perhaps he or she didn't know that.

But to save you more math and to show the negative-responding poster that you were very close with your calculations, we only have to refer to the Theoretical P-wave Travel Times map and data lists in the USGS scientific and technical section for that Costa Rica quake and it shows that the waves would reach Seattle, Wash, in about 8 min 45 seconds. So, those traces showing on several of the Yellowstone webicorders at around 19:29:30 UTC (12:29:30 MT) are clearly P-waves from that Costa Rica quake.

The USGS provides data like this for most significant quakes and for anyone who is interested, I'd recommend checking them out. Very useful stuff and quite helpful to identify non-Yellowstone events that influence the traces there.

Regards,

Mike

Interpreting seismograms

I think the bottom one, they label it "System Noise" looks like our "pump" traces... Lots of info on there, still reading.

Laz

Just a suggestion

It would be great if the person who created this www.isthisthingon.org... could arrange them in a geographical layout.

It would give you a better visual for how things are moving.

Again great job on this.


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Oh my....than that is really my bad....ooops. I'm sorry!!
I really thought you were making a sarcastic reply to what i said...
Sort of like:" yeah right....travel that fast huh? impossible!!"

Than you nailed it. I really don't know what i'm talkin about....

Please continue....[walks away in shame]

station YML gona crasy.... somthing is building up!

reply to post by Lazarus Long


And note how the one showing Wind looks a LOT like what we're seeing all over in YS now.

I'm not in YS, but here in Casper, I can tell you that the wind is being its typical annoying self right now. It's unseasonably warm outside with winds in the 35-40 MPH range, gusting to 75 MPH. This is normal for around here this time of year.

NOAA is a good source for up to date information.

Here's what they say about Yellowstone Park:

"This Afternoon: A 50 percent chance of snow. Cloudy, with a steady temperature around 28. Southwest wind around 18 mph. Total daytime snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches possible.

Tonight: Snow likely. Cloudy, with a low around 12. Wind chill values as low as -5. Breezy, with a west wind between 17 and 20 mph, with gusts as high as 28 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible.

Friday: A 50 percent chance of snow. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 22. Wind chill values as low as -5. Northwest wind between 9 and 13 mph. New snow accumulation of less than one inch possible.

Friday Night: Mostly cloudy, with a low around -7. Wind chill values as low as -30. West southwest wind between 10 and 15 mph. "

I think Geogeek is right on with the wind assessment.

Here's that link again:

earthquakescanada.nrcan.gc.ca...

That wind example looks pretty darn familiar

Is that wave at 14:51 MST on YLA and YTP (once again) another distant earthquake? These two stations seems to pick very well this kind of earthquakes, other ones don't seem to be as sensitive and have a lot of "noise".

YLA seismograph trace
P-wave seems to be long about 35 seconds, 8*35 = 280 Km.
I'm not sure from where this EQ would be, though.

[edit on 2009/1/8 by Shirakawa]

reply to post by ressiv


www.seis.utah.edu...

Don't think so.

Two reasons:

1) www.seis.utah.edu...

No nearby station shows anything.

2) The Seismograph is set to 66 microvolts. Very sensitive and easy for something minor to look massive. The same events look 7.5 times bigger on that graph than Lake.

Ask me the wind picked up and is whipping through the pass.