Gaza families eat grass as Israel locks border

Originally posted by CreeWolf

Originally posted by resistancia
A lot of the posts in this thread are so blatantly racist and bigoted that I would not even bother to flatter the poster with a reply or comment.

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That's always the easy way out....to throw the "race card" out there because someone else has an opposing viewpoint and actual argument to make....

As easy as the Christian lunatic zealots claiming that Palestinians are all terrorists.




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Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by t0ken

 

By your own words. You ever wonder why the Muslims don't have, and never developed technologies to war?

I said the Palestinian muslims don't have that capability and you better hope they don't because that will the end of IDF and its brutal incursions.

I am a Pakistani muslim and my country has most of the 'developed tech' needed to fight a war including over a 100 nuclear warheads.Thats the reason no israeli or Western state will ever declare or is capable to declare war on my country.

Ever wonder why Muslims never created the equivalent of an M1 Abrams, or F-15, or nuclear carrier group?

Muslims don't need to create M1 abrams or F-15s.Hezbullah dealt with the merkavas equivelant to M1 abrams with crapy russian anti-tank rockets in 2006 war and gave israeli army a bloody nose.And F-15s can't fight a guirella warfare,they just kill civillians indiscriminately.

The reason is that Islam is one of the most restrictive, backward-assed religions in the world, suitable only for restrictive, contentious, backward-assed people.

No wonder its one of the fastest growing religion in the world.

No industry. No capability to develop industry. Even the oil industry was founded, discovered, built, and manned by Westerners. You buy all your Western-developed weapons from Western countries. Or copy them.

I don't care about how the West founded and discovered the oil in ME.The only thing i wonder is what would happen to the ' developed' technological West if the Arabs decide to halt oil flow.All your M1 abrams,apaches and f-15s won't be able to move and will eventually become rust buckets.Ohh and your 'industries' will turn into scrap yards





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Originally posted by dooper
It was a bitch when I entered 7th grade, only to be told that I was college, second year, ninth month, I scored the highest score on the science exams ever scored, and to boot, they want me to skip high school right at the moment that the girl with the biggest TaTa's was sitting right behind me.

I also can't stand pretentious braggarts whose entire discourse is 10% hot air and 90% bull droppings.

You may be right. I may not be very bright, but then as I am one of 112,000,000, then that kinda leaves you behind, doesn't it?

It was you that told us about your blue eyed, blondedness. Personally I view those features as the traits of an infant.

You accused me of being a braggart subsequent to my defence against your allegations. You accused me of being an anti-Semite and I countered that by making it clear to you that I am black, male and have the sense about me to see over the horizon and identify Zionist propaganda. It was a means to an ends since I don’t actually give a damn of what an anonymous Texan putting it out large thinks about me. I simply wanted to make the point.

Further, you clearly over-rate yourself yet have trouble expressing yourself in print, make a big deal of your scientific and mathematic gifts; good for you and don’t forget to thank God. But the odd thing is, someone who is very clever and has immense self confidence should be good in both the sciences and arts. The choice is about taste instead of a lob-sided ability.

In the context of your opinions and half baked understanding of other peoples, I am not surprised. You are probably a victim of ego stroking by adults tasked with educating you. It is not your fault and I surmise that you have profited from the virtues of your blondedness.

Good luck to you chump and lay off the Arabs.


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Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by masonwatcher

 

I'm 5'9", very wiry, former Special Forces

Why is it people who are ex US-army some of the most ignorant and arrogant people in the world?




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Iran and the Arabs wage a proxy war with Israel by supplying weapons to Hamas. Vast amounts of money pours in from the West - and the amounts are a matter of public record. But the people starve.

Are Hamas leaders eating grass too?

Egypt refuse to take Gaza back. All we here about is occupied territories and Palestinians being victimized by Israelis.


MF

Originally posted by mmiichael


Iran and the Arabs wage a proxy war with Israel by supplying weapons to Hamas. Vast amounts of money pours in from the West - and the amounts are a matter of public record. But the people starve.

Are Hamas leaders eating grass too?

Egypt refuse to take Gaza back. All we here about is occupied territories and Palestinians being victimized by Israelis.


MF

Another zionist anti-meme. People fight zionism because it is evil. Palestinians starve because Israel imprisons them behind walled ghettos. Money donated by Arab nations and the EU go to building power plants, airports, hospitals, schools and orphanages but Israel destroys it with arms gauged off the US tax payers.

You drag in Egypt into the zionist monstrosity because you are a mud thrower. The Palestinians are under zionist occupation not Egyptian. Egypt is next door; what do you want them to do?

Israeli is exceptional and does exceptional things. No one can match it.




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May GOD give to Israel what Israel deserves.
NOT one line, just succint.

reply to post by masonwatcher

Money donated by Arab nations and the EU go to building power plants, airports, hospitals, schools and orphanages but Israel destroys it

As a non "mud thrower" and a person that always stands behind his words (or not as experience shows) can you list hospitals,schools, power plants and orphanages that Israel destroyed?
Airport - is true. 20 percent truth is still a lie though.
And Infernos - we all get what we deserve.

Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge

And Infernos - we all get what we deserve.

INTERNOS is my name. NO, we dont get what we deserve.
If that was true, today Israel would NOT exist. I have been living for FIVE YEARS in gaza strip. All the stuff being shared today, is something i SAW with my eyes: as said, GOD will decide: ah do you know how one feels after staying for five days without water? God bless PALESTINE.

Originally posted by internos

Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge

And Infernos - we all get what we deserve.

INTERNOS is my name. NO, we dont get what we deserve.
If that was true, today Israel would NOT exist. I have been living for FIVE YEARS in gaza strip. All the stuff being shared today, is something i SAW with my eyes: as said, GOD will decide: ah do you know how one feels after staying for five days without water? God bless PALESTINE.

Don't waste your time with that creature.

God bless the Palestinian people.

My, my, such emotional people! Looks like I stirred up a hornet's nest.

Janus, those were touching photos of starving children. It makes me wonder why the leadership of Gaza would allow their desire to destroy overwhelm the needs of their people? What kind of animals would permit this degree of misfortune on their own children? Obviously, some cold-hearted bastards, these Gazans. Guns over food. Rockets over medicine. Violence over peace. As I said, some of the most stupid, contentious people on earth. Allow themselves to be the tools of foreign governments. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Token, you don't care what happened in 1948? Hell, it defines the entire problem that exists today. This is the part that drives folks like me up the wall. Israel is a country, formed out of territory, partitioned by Britain, and since independence, has had to defend itself from day one.

Israel isn't going away. Get over it. The stupidity of their neighbors is manifest by their blind hatred for the Israeli's, and they have abandoned all other human endeavors, concentrating on the destruction of Israel. Really smart. Really productive. Idiots.

Token, you state you are a Paki. You have 100 nuclear warheads? That's simply amazing. In times of trouble, I doubt but one or two will ever be launched. You must be very proud, though.

Islam is fast-growing. So is stupidity. And any Arab stoppage of oil may slow down civilian use of cars in the US, but we have plenty for our military. And if you notice, when they get serious, it takes no time at all to take out the military of another nation. And that doesn't include using nukes. You in Pakistan can't even control your own borders. If your own army is incapable of handling a few provinces, should India be scared? I kind of doubt it.

If you think that ex-army are the most ignorant and arrogant people in the world, and you are looking at your own military, then I'd probably agree with you. However, not anywhere else. You see, when meet your foe in combat and splash him, you were able to simultaneously take a good measure of yourself.

When you score victory after victory, scores of times, then you must be doing something right. Now you don't have to like it, (the combat thing) but there is nothing as invigorating as having some "ignorant, arrogant" bastards start a firefight with you, and you kill them in turn. It really wipes the smirks off their dead faces fast.

Since they can't win in a stand-up battle, I see how these Muslims like to do their killing - against unarmed civilians, especially women and children. Brave Islamic warriors who love to strap an explosive vest on mentally retarded women, and blow them up from a distance.

And the real shame is that these brave Islamic warriors actually make their momma's proud. In the West, our mothers would be shamed by such behavior. Consider what your fellow countrymen recently pulled off in India. Unarmed civilians. That takes real courage.

The same courage we see in Gaza.

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To be perfectly honest, there is more than enough blame to go around.

It never ceases to amaze me how the Palestinian leadership manages to turn hopeful situations into more pain and suffering for their people. Every time they (the Palestinian Leadership) get a chance to show the world that they really do want peace, they manage to muck it up good. Until there are leaders willing to truly work out a deal, the Palestinian People are the ones who will suffer. Nothing will change till that happens, sorry to bust everyone's bubble.

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Mason, you apparently resent the blond hair and blue eyes. So I suppose it doesn't surprise me that you would denigrate these physical characteristics. Too bad, but the ladies loved it all my life. I only differentiated two characteristics to demonstrate that I was not a biological Jew, but that of being of Nordic descent.

You are the one who had to bring up your race, your size, your somewhat limited intelligence level, your Mesa membership, and so on.

I've got some really bad news. The fact that you're black gives you no magical or more intuitive insights to the plight of any misfortunate group, who in this case just happen to be stupid. Your color has nothing to do with your ability to empathize, understand, intuit, or sense anything "over the horizion." And the term Zionism as you used it - was strictly a racist term commonly used to belittle Jews.

Really, I'm disappointed for one of Mensa to resort to vague, racist terminology. Funny how racism on my part is assumed. Yet another of your mistaken assumptions.

Who, exactly, is the anonymous Texan? And since I'm unlettered in the terminology of Ebonics, can you please extrapolate or explain the term, "putting out large?" Is that a cultural term that transcends normal language usage or terminology? English please.

You suggest that I should be knowledgeable in both the arts and sciences. Are you again making an erroneous assumption? That's the problem with erroneous assumptions. Assumption. (First three letters)

Does my hair color really bother you that much? That I somehow benefitted? Gee, we are really, racially sensitive, aren't we?

And about laying off the Arabs. If by the term Arabs, you mean those fighting against the US and Israel, then you can take your suggestion and shove it where photons never reach. I've done the exact opposite, and apparently, quite effectively.

Many in Washington found my work compelling, and only recently, portions were quickly adopted by the US Marines, who are thrilled with their increased combat effectiveness, meaning their ability to significantly improve their kill ratios. They are sending all Marines through this new training prior to deployment. The US Army likewise found significant portions of my work sufficient to include in their new FM"s to reflect some of the principles and practices that I touted. Again, to increase their kill ratios.

I also sent the work to the Israeli military commanders to enable them to do the same. Improve their kill ratios. As if they needed much improvement.

The thing is, I hate idiots who would blow up shoppers. I detest idiots who would blow up innocents on buses. I hate folks who lob rockets indiscriminately. I abhor idiots who would kidnap innocents, kill them, or even follow Muhammed's entreaty to cut off their heads.

I hate them, and I think they can't be killed fast enough.

I know I'm not making myself clear here, so my apology for that. If the Gazans want food, want cooperation, want jobs, and want peace, then they should personally eliminate those radical elements within their own territory who cause these problems.

If the Gazans allow these militant idiots to continue their self-destructive ways, then their blood be on their own heads.

reply to post by internos


do you know how one feels after staying for five days without water? I have been living for FIVE YEARS in gaza strip


At 5 days without water wouldn't that person be dead?



No water, but you got internet.How is that? Just curious.

reply to post by internos

Odd. I've been three days and three nights without water, and the fourth morning, I could barely stand.

Five days and nights without water?

Nice avatar. Well done. Internet.

I smell bull (or sheep if you prefer) droppings.

Who's right and who's wrong. Morality means less and less as mankind progresses into the future. At most the Palestinian struggle will be a footnote in an obscure history book. It's a matter of fact that only time will tell who will be left standing. Nothing lasts forever.

The main struggle I see is one between the western world, the future, and Islam, the past.

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What I was wondering. Just like they have money for bombs and guns and bullets... But not food? Sure, they just don't care, killing the Jews is the only thing they care about.

Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by internos

 

Odd. I've been three days and three nights without water, and the fourth morning, I could barely stand.

Five days and nights without water?

Nice avatar. Well done. Internet.

I smell bull (or sheep if you prefer) droppings.

And they ALL could barely SURVIVE: if you don't believe me, then ask to some Hebron inhabitants. FIVE days, NOT four or three: FIVE. Some children drunk contaminated water and the most lucky of them passed away some weeks after. Perhaps you won't find more informations on wikipedia: when i've been living there, i was doing my job, nothing to do with this stuff. I know people from Israel who are aware of the tragedy happening to the palestinians. One day i've met a guy who has lost two daughters in a terrorist attack, and ity was VERY sad: some human lives lost are a lost for all US. But i've also known a woman who has lost two sons in an convetional attack with helicopters and all the rest: guess what? They were targeting someone else, and those guys had the misfortune to be there in that moment. MMM wait a minute. THe two girls died during a terrorist attack, and the two guys died during... WHAT?
One should foresay, today, that can be attacked by an helicopter, right?
IF i say five days, then i mean five days i don't mean two or three days: FIVE is what i've counted with my fingers.

So innocents were accidentally killed by a helicopter when they were targeting a specific terrorist.

That somehow doesn't seem the same as targeting a busload of innocents seeking to inflict maximum casualties, or blowing themselves up in a shopping area.

If you don't want responses, then don't initiate attacks! This isn't rocket science.

Every single time the Gazans attack, the Israeli's will strike back harder. This has been the identical same situation for decades. Gaza hits Israel, Israel hits back, and harder.

This is exactly my point. After beating your stupid head against the wall and achieving absolutely NOTHING, you've got to be one dumb, ignorant, stupid group of people to continue the identical, same stupidity!

Decades of initiating attacks with the identical, same retaliation.

Each time, Gaza loses. Each time, decade after decade.

This is exactly why I say these have to be the most stupid people in the world.

So when Israel tries to isolate them, to keep from having to kill them, Israel is suddenly the bad guy. My achingass.