What turns the Earth on its own axis, at a constant speed, day in day out, each and every day ?

mmm how????????? radio freq. is a lower band than light freq. look at a freq. table......this is basic electronics .........

Originally posted by iismtivu
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ok...do you understand a battery? chemical reaction between different metals causes a transfer of extra electrons from the positive terminal to move to the negitive terminal..... how does that take place? if no external wires connect the terminals....... they move from the positive side to the neitive side... then whe a circuit is created... electrons folw from the negitive side through the circuit and back to the positive side.... whereby the battery is then balanced(neutral) and thus the chemical reaction occurs again to move electrons to the negative terminal..... so if you have movement of electrons.... ie current..... you have a magnetic field induced as stray electrons outside the battery will be affected by the current flow inside the battery.....

When there is no circuit there is no current. If what you are saying is true a battery would last forever, it would continuously charge itself.

Originally posted by iismtivu
mmm how????????? radio freq. is a lower band than light freq. look at a freq. table......this is basic electronics .........

What does frequency have to do with it?

Yes radio and light are electromagnetic radiation at different wavelengths. Electromagnetic radiation is composed of chargeless photons.

reply to post by Phage
a battery cant recharge itself... once the excess electrons are move from the positive terminal to the negative terminal... you then have a potental voltage..... once an outside circuit is introduced then you have current flow.... but you first have to get the elecrons from on terminal to the other to create the potential voltage... also over time you have a leakage of electrons in the battery back to the positive terminal if the battery goes unused for a long period...this is why a battery goes dead...... again basic electroncs here.....

Don't know why you keep trying Phage.

The OP obviously didn't start this thread to ask a question, as the title would lead me to believe.

He/She has some preconceived notion and is attempting to convince you of something, not get answers to their questions. And he/she has a really creepy signature, but maybe that's just me.

by the way.... it's really irritating.... when you type like this....

It gives me the mental image of someone out of breath.

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sorry to be irritating. was not intended i have some vision issues and typing issues. and i didn't mean to upset anyone. while i dont claim to be an expert i do have a degree in electronics theory. i do enjoy a good discussion though and so far it has been just that.

reply to post by iismtivu


It's no problem, at least I can tell what you are saying.
I should be more tolerant of the way people type, but it rubs my fur the wrong way. Don't take it personally, it wasn't intended to be.

Anyway, my point was that if you seriously want to come to an understanding of anything, especially something like the universe, you have to go into it with an open mind.

I know it's hard to avoid, but if you go into your questions already believing you know the answer, it's next to pointless for someone to try and explain it any other way. Sometimes we lean towards one possible answer because we want it to be true.

Try to avoid that is all I suggest.

Originally posted by Phage
Probes to Venus and Mars have found no planetary magnetic fields for either planet.

Not quite true, according to this

Mars Magnetic Field Detected

September 18, 1997 - Scientists have confirmed the existence of a planet-wide magnetic field at Mars using an instrument on-board NASA's Mars Global Surveyor orbiter, as the spacecraft began to circle and study the planet from a highly elliptical orbit.
source

However, it's very different to Earth's magnetic field.
Instead of a global bubble the Martian field is in the form of magnetic umbrellas, which covers ~40% of Mars.



An interesting article about how the magnetic field is involved, Solar wind ripping chunks off Mars

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thank you for this. i had asked for sources from others. and only got speculations and opinions.

reply to post by styxxz


I knew about the localized magnetic fields. I should have been more specific about calling it a magnetosphere or at least planetwide. I got tired of typing "magnetosphere". It slows me down.

In any case, an induced magnetic field would affect the entire planet. The effects would not be localized.

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How reliable is that source though?

I have to admit that it's not entirely unexpected that Mars has a magnetic field though, any planet with a 'floating core' will have one. The dynamo effect and all.

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Originally posted by iismtivu
so if FTE's are not moving energy back and forth ...how does the earth and the sun and other planets keep a "neutral charge" ??? or are all those ions in the form of light pelting us from the sun not causing a build up of electrical charge???

Uhhh, ions are never photons of light. But to answer your question, the upper atmosphere is ionized by solar radiation, hence the ionosphere.

Hi, thanks for starting this thread. Actually, this is one of the arguments for a creator. Not all the planets rotate in the same direction.
cseligman.com...

If the planets simply formed from the sun's dust disk, they would IMO all be rotating the same way. Since they do not, we have a problem with uniformity. So, I suppose, just to mix things up a bit, God made things different.

But then, you might have to believe in God to believe that. Maybe you believe they flipped or got hit hard enough to rotate them the other way?

Good luck with that idea.

As for a magnetic field, apparently there must be a moon churning the internal molten core to create the field. In our case, it works fine to protect us from the solar wind. Probably just a coincidence, right? The moons of Mars are so small they have negligible effect.

Additionally, out of respect for the OP, the earth doesn't have a constant rotation speed, nor does it have a constant rotation axis. Currently the axis is moving several km per year.

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reply to post by Phage


No problems. I was being pedantic, it gave me the excuse to link that article about "Solar wind ripping chunks off Mars" which I found quite interesting...


reply to post by SeekerOfAUTMN


I'm satisfied the source(s) are reliable.
Not sure about the "floating core" theory though. Who knows what's really going on with Mars's weird magnetic fields.

I wasn't going to say this since you seemed honestly inquisitive, but since you've become arrogant and claim to understand things you actually don't...

You claim to have a degree in "electronics" but don't even have an understanding of basic classical mechanics? I'm confused.

The Earth Spins because of many reasons. One could say the Sun causes the spin, or another planet some time ago spashing into it and making the moon. But what effects our rotation is the moon. The closer the moon is to us, the faster we spin because the faster the moon revolves around us, currently, the moon is drifting away, and we are slowing down. What effects the rotation on other planets is beyond me at the moment, I just know the Earths.

Oh god this thread shows why we need far better basic science education in public schools.

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????? classical mechanics? care to share some sources??

reply to post by Jim Scott


If the solar system was a closed system, with nothing external affecting it, you'd have a point. As it is, one large comet smacking a planet is enough to change its rotation and axis about which it rotates. And that happens quite a bit.