What turns the Earth on its own axis, at a constant speed, day in day out, each and every day ?

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The particle stream from the sun consists of protons and electrons. It has no net charge so there is no accumulation.

Light (photons) has no charge.

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Originally posted by iismtivu
doesn't the earth have 2 magnetic fields???.... one created by the spinning metal core of the earth.... the other ???? induced by the earth moving through the suns magnetic field????

The Earth has one magnetic field. It is thought to be produced by convection and rotation of iron and nickel within the Earth's outer core.

Movement through the magnetic field of the Sun does not cause the Earth's magnetic field. It is not like rubbing an iron bar with a magnet.

???? earth has a magnetosphere and an ionosphere...... magnetosphere is the upper field... and the lower is the ionosphere....

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The magnetosphere is the region of space where Earth's magnetic field is strong enough to create certain effects.

The ionosphere is the upper portion of the atmosphere where solar radiation (mostly ultraviolet and shorter wavelengths) causes ionization of the gases. It is not magnetic in origin or nature. Venus and Mars have no magnetic field but they each have an ionosphere.

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Can you give sources for your info???? i'm not an expert but i do have degree in electronics and google is a good friend.....

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In reverse order:
science.nasa.gov...
www.uaf.edu...
www.aps.anl.gov...
www.physics.upenn.edu...
www.astronomynotes.com...
www.sciencedaily.com...
csep10.phys.utk.edu...

These are examples. Many more are available.

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yes... so did you read them? you seem confused...... ions are a charged partical.... either neg. or pos. ionosphere conducts electricity....otherwise how would am and fm radio waves be broadcast?????? lightwaves are an electrically charged atom(photon) and also are moved much the same way as electrons and ions are moved.... and if there is any current moving ( electrons or ions or photons....) there will be a magnetic field......

think of ions like this...... take a balloon full of air.... now walk over to a wall in your home.... that wall is a natural insulator...doesn't conduct electricity.... rub the ballon full of air against the wall..... now let go... the balloon sticks to the wall...... you electrically charged particals and built up a static charge on the wall... makes the balloon stick... that is what is happening to the planets in our solar system... photons and ions from the sun are bombarding the planets... plus as we rotate arond the sun we are also moving through the suns magnetic field.... walla! static buildup of particals create an ionosphere which will also create a low grade magnetic field as the static build up will release... causing current to flow.... as all planets want to be neutral in charge....otherwise if some were neg. charged and others were positive...well that would be bad.... you ask why a neutral charge.... well they want to all be at their lowest power state...conservation of energy i think??

ok... now to really blow your mind..... think of our galaxy.... now our solar system inside the galaxy is like a battery.... the sun being the positive terminal of the battery.... the planets rotating around the sun make up the cells of the battery and the farthest planet from the sun would be the negative terminal. (now in a car battery you have a potential voltage of 12 volts..... and max amps at close to 300 for use to crank over the car engine... so two groups of 3 cells.... water and acid to create the reaction to remove electrons from the cells)..... so our galaxy is one giant battery.... with stored voltage and a potential current just waiting to flow when a circuit is completed between the neg. and pos. terminals.....
mmmm so now go bigger..... each galaxy in our universe is a battery... with stored voltage and potential current.....the center of the universe is the pos. terminal and the farthest galaxy from the center is the neg. terminal.... so.... now even bigger..... universes are batteries with stored voltage and potetial current waiting to flow.... so there would be a pos. terminal at the center of the universes and the furthest universe would be the neg. terminal.....so... what is closing the circuit to let energy flow... and what is that energy being used for????

so... universes have a charge... galaxies have a charge..... planets have a charge.... people have a charge....atoms have a charge..... protons electrons and neutrons have a charge..... can we see a pattern here? all things have an electrical charge.... a potential voltage and current waiting to be conneted in a circuit to let the energy flow..... so where is all that energy flowing to? and for what purpose????

Originally posted by iismtivu
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yes... so did you read them? you seem confused...... ions are a charged partical.... either neg. or pos. ionosphere conducts electricity....otherwise how would am and fm radio waves be broadcast?????? lightwaves are an electrically charged atom(photon) and also are moved much the same way as electrons and ions are moved.... and if there is any current moving ( electrons or ions or photons....) there will be a magnetic field......

Yes. Ions are charged particles.

Both radio and light waves are the same thing, electromagnetic radiation. Photons are the quantum particles which make up electromagnetic radiation. Photons have no charge. Photons are not ions. Photons are not electrons.

Electromagnetic radiation (light and radio waves) does not need a conductor. Both can be transmitted through a vacuum.

To induce a magnetic field, electrons must flow through a circuit. A circuit is a closed path where there is a source of electrons which travel through the path and return to the source. Without the flow of electrons through the circuit there is no magnetic field created. A static field does not create a magnetic field.

Gravity is neither electrical nor magnetic. The force holding the universe together is gravity, not electricity or magnetism.

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so...how does a battery have a magnetic field then? is there not current flow between the positive and negative turminals inside the battery?

where do you get your information on radio waves and light waves from??

radio waves are a manipulation of electrons..... ie they are excited to a specific freq then they are transmitted through the ionosphere.... same with photons(light) charged atoms are excited to a specific freq, ie infra red etc ...... otherwise how do we get lazers?????

and as far as i know all particles break down to protons electrons and neutrons.... even humans have an electrical current running through our bodies.. so how can a particle not have a charge???????

as for gravity.... even the EXPERTS are not totally sure how to describe it... so how can you say my opinion is wrong??

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A battery does not have a magnetic field. If the battery is part of a complete circuit a magnetic field will be induced.

Radio waves do not consist of electrons. They consist of photons, as do light waves. Radio waves are created by oscillation of an electrical current within the circuits of the transmitter. The electrical energy is converted to radio waves (photons) when it leaves the circuit through the antenna. In a laser a very different process takes place but the result is that light waves (photons) are emitted. Photons are not electrons and they carry no charge.

If an atom gains or loses an electron it becomes charged. A charged state is not its natural state. The natural state is neutral. Ions "try" to regain their neutral state by balancing their electron count with their proton count.

we really dont have a way to acurrately measure for charge..... we can measure a build up of electrons...(neg.) or a lack of electrons(pos.) but we have no way to measure neutrons.... we just have to go on the assumtion that if the pos. and neg charges are balanced that means you have a neutral charge.... so why would you still say things dont have a charge if it's neutral? and yes neutrons are a charge... ever heard of a neutron bomb? plus how else are you going to keep the lighter electrons from being pulled to the heavier protons?(opposiye charges are attracted) gravity? centrifical force?...those would not be strong enough .....bingo!
neutrons... they (attatch somehow to both the proton and electron)and allow current flow to happen between protons and electrons... creating the magnetic field for the partical...

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ok...do you understand a battery? chemical reaction between different metals causes a transfer of extra electrons from the positive terminal to move to the negitive terminal..... how does that take place? if no external wires connect the terminals....... they move from the positive side to the neitive side... then whe a circuit is created... electrons folw from the negitive side through the circuit and back to the positive side.... whereby the battery is then balanced(neutral) and thus the chemical reaction occurs again to move electrons to the negative terminal..... so if you have movement of electrons.... ie current..... you have a magnetic field induced as stray electrons outside the battery will be affected by the current flow inside the battery.....

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Neutrons have no charge.

I don't know what a neutron bomb has to do with it. A neutron bomb releases high energy neutrons and an EMP. All nuclear devices release an EMP. An EMP is electromagnetic radiation, consisting of photons.

Electrons in an atom do not collide with the protons of the nucleus because their energy state is stronger than the electrostatic attraction pulling them together.