Exhibiting Signs of Alien Consciousness!?? Come on in..........

Originally posted by mystiq
What is it that you're saying, and who is doing something. I certainly didn't understand, as I believe the above poster was referring to soul evolution, which is a fundamental of God's creation and our right from our soul's birth, and a promise some of us remember when we began our journey. If anyone tries to interfere with this, the Creator Herself will interfere right back at them. That is the whole purpose for our existence and the reason the universe exists.

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We are not in agreement, of course. There is this thing that even the godforsaken bible calls 'War In Heaven" (always has been), which is being fought between the Reptilian-Greys vs members of The GFL. I could get into it, have done entire threads regarding it [elsewhere].

Apparently, you have too much confidence in your personal Goddess/god. Also, you are unaware of what is being engaged in at this time regarding Soul Connect. I seen you also are not aware that humanity lives within the Ocean of Life (a.k.a Sea of Awareness), and that it has, as a multidimensional reality, natural enemies & parasites (much reported on all forums as 'visitors in the night,' when some people see or sense them). These are the absorbers of energy. We are made of nothing but energy: consciousness.

If you are toting your bible quoting god this jesu that, it won't cut it in the Multidimensional Grownup World. Neither will humanity's little Creation Universal Viewpoint resolve all things because they wish it to: there are Counter-Consciousnesses equally, and moreso, diametric to such Viewpoints/pointviews.

There is a thing called "Consensus Agreement" which supercedes Personal Dreamtime Reality. It does not adhere to mere humanity universe-views: it is more expansive, more utterly indifferent than that. Larger, shall we say.

Soul Rights? God? Continue on, sandcastles & all. Lovely.

Sorry, not knowing and not seeing is perhaps a wonderful way to look at things, whether they are actually that way in the Multidimensional Totality Consensus Agreement, or not. I think that about did it.

Soul-Connect (direct-connect) is being disabled as we speak. It's laughable, how naive humanity truly is. Their consciousness is three-tiered: Unconscious-Conscious-SupraConscious, not Integrated. And you, and others, presume to lay down definitve laws and actualities on the Multidimensional Reality Construct (Universeal Set: Universe-Multiverse-Infiverse-Omniverse)?

Not picking, just care a lot. Study into it: get some gleanings.

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I don't care what the bible says, God is everything there is, the entire shabang of energy. I call God Her most of the time. But, when we began our journeys, and this something very fundamental, each of us received a promise that we would not fail, and that God was with us. Human souls aren't human. We have choices of to make between several different similar lessons to be learned. I was born knowing this stuff, except for the last part which I recognized. Doesn't matter who does what anyway, I've heard of Enki's soul wiping machine. Funny how people are greeted by loved ones and angels when thy die and given their personal wormhole tunnel out. If anyone isn't pray for help immediately. What I do know is, the pit you dig for others to fall in, you fall in.
They don't.

I'm gunna interject here...

Yes I am aware that my consciousness is only being projected into this body from somewhere else. I became aware of this quite recently. I won't get into specifics because the details of it are so dead in sync with many other things (science, archaeology, mathematics, "spirituality") that I'd rather not alert any spooks...

But the thing I realized even before this was that to think that this makes you some higher advanced being above the average human is silly. Every being has the opportunity to connect with the same awareness and the ability to understand the same knowledge... albeit through different perspectives. Be it human, Sirian, Ancient Alien God, Jesus, dolphin, orangutan, or Bob Saget... we're all just experiencing the same thing from different perspectives. Nobody is wrong. Nobody is higher or lower. Nobody is here to save anybody else... because in the end, we are all where we need to be.

If "light workers" were doing humanity the greatest of services, they'd do nothing and let humanity suffer. Why? Because the greatest gift you can give to a being is the privelidge of understanding for themselves.

So I reject any notion that any being is any higher or lower than any other being. I may be only projecting my consciousness here, but ya know what? Right now I am fully immersed in the human experience, and I have a pretty good understanding of the nature of reality. My brain doesn't have to be some hyperspace crystalline reciever for me to understand. It just takes observation. You don't need to be an alien to understand. That is ridiculous, and if there was one message I think an alien being would want to give to these "lowly humans", it's this:

You hold the power of everything that exists at your fingertips. You are all Gods. Bow down to no one. Love everything as yourself. Understand everything as you would understand yourself. Because that is exactly what you are. You are everything always.

That is it. There is no merit to people who think they are above anything or that they are special in any way. All things are created equal.

Okay? Bye.

Originally posted by mystiq
I don't care what the bible says, God is everything there is, the entire shabang of energy. I call God Her most of the time. But, when we began our journeys, and this something very fundamental, each of us received a promise that we would not fail, and that God was with us. Human souls aren't human. We have choices of to make between several different similar lessons to be learned. I was born knowing this stuff, except for the last part which I recognized. Doesn't matter who does what anyway, I've heard of Enki's soul wiping machine. Funny how people are greeted by loved ones and angels when thy die and given their personal wormhole tunnel out. If anyone isn't pray for help immediately. What I do know is, the pit you dig for others to fall in, you fall in.
They don't.

Not talking about Enki's soul-wiping machine, sorry. And you have a very closed outlook regarding realities other than your own. Born knowing this stuff? Your stuff, right? Since when do you possess all-knowing and have all answers, without the need to learn anything further? Is that not the greatest presumption of ALL?

Get off it.


And insofar as falling into a pit goes, your's looks pretty deep.

"Promise that we would not fail?" That religious dogma sells at pretty steep prices; has been doing so for millenia. Make good money on it, too.
Btw, you assure us god said this, right? I suggest you go back and ask again, for surety. Get to know the Goddess (not the nearest 7-11 Sol Solar System version, please, the one everybody around here 'quotes.').

Have you heard that old quote, 'bury one's head in the sand" (believe what they think is true to the exclusion of all other reality)? Born knowing this stuff hardly means you know what's what, really. It looks like severe "in-the-box" thinking: the old "limited viewpoint" with aliens thrown in. Your selling dogma, not Multidimensional Universal Consensus Agreement. Most the stuff you feel "verified/assured" and state regarding god & the soul & promises sound just like religious leader's dogma.

I'm not buying.

(PS - Clarification: the Direct-Connect shutdown is being orchestrated for Earth and Sol Solar System inhabitants: this will not destroy the Soul connect, merely shut it down and slow evolution of all affected: Nothing, indeed, can stop the Upward Spirallic Force of Evolution: it will reach a point where soul-connect can resume [should they succeed in the shut-down], but in Universal Time-Scales, that could include millions of years.
This is quite real, and I strongly recommend taking advantage of the Gift of Life to Achieve the job of life: Ascension: Earth is, after all, nothing but an Ascension Machine. Good luck to All here-now.)

"Don't Underestimate the Enemy."

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Originally posted by dunwichwitch
But the thing I realized even before this was that to think that this makes you some higher advanced being above the average human is silly. Every being has the opportunity to connect with the same awareness and the ability to understand the same knowledge... albeit through different perspectives. Be it human, Sirian, Ancient Alien God, Jesus, dolphin, orangutan, or Bob Saget... we're all just experiencing the same thing from different perspectives. Nobody is wrong. Nobody is higher or lower. Nobody is here to save anybody else... because in the end, we are all where we need to be.

So I reject any notion that any being is any higher or lower than any other being. I may be only projecting my consciousness here, but ya know what? Right now I am fully immersed in the human experience, and I have a pretty good understanding of the nature of reality. My brain doesn't have to be some hyperspace crystalline reciever for me to understand. It just takes observation. You don't need to be an alien to understand. That is ridiculous, and if there was one message I think an alien being would want to give to these "lowly humans", it's this:

You hold the power of everything that exists at your fingertips. You are all Gods. Bow down to no one. Love everything as yourself. Understand everything as you would understand yourself. Because that is exactly what you are. You are everything always.

That is it. There is no merit to people who think they are above anything or that they are special in any way. All things are created equal.

Okay? Bye.

Sorry but you're completely wrong except for the fact that yes humans are given chances to make their own spiritual choices in life. But from what you are saying it doesn't matter what choices are made because we are all equal. Well for one we are certainly not all experiencing the same thing, even identical twins experience things differently. There are people who make the right choices and those that make the wrong ones (bad/cruel) the two should and are not the same, as you are proposing

The human experience is unique to the individual and what I experience on a spiritual level is probably so unique that only a handful of people would relate to.

Also to presume you understand the thing which we are all experiencing is naive, that would be to conceptualize it into something that can be described in our language and as we all know words fail to describe the true transcendental moments experienced on ones journey to a higher state of consciousness.

So to say a human consciousness is on a par with a God or Alien consciousness is offensive and blasphemous and indicates to me you have no idea of where humans appear on the evolutionary scale of consciousness which isn't as high as you obviously think it its.

The point of my thread is to highlight the fact that there are different stages of evolution the pinnacle of which from our perspective is Alien or God consciousness. If there were no hierarchy we would all be walking around like clones! Sorry but your wrong.

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Couldn't have stated it better myself (with backup! [refs, quotes])! This is so excellent an awareness.

Perceive: All existence is begun as a state of raw consciousness, which can be placed at the bottom of a Pyramid, and is how all consciousness expresses itself! At the bottom, it is Base. As it climbs up the central shaft of the consciousness pyramid, it becomes more refined, going thru states of development from mere consciousness [Perception] to Awareness of Self. As it nears the Top, it achieve's the quintessential level and becomes Concentrated, Super-Refined Awareness, which is the purpose of the Journey, Evolution of Consciousness.

A pyramid has a base, and a top, that symbolizes height.
Ever notice this symbol on usa money? It's there for a secretive and obvious reason.

Now, to describe the Inexplicable: It is stated that the Energy of a System (Universe) is neither created nor destroyed: Not so: Behind the Universe is a wave of Pure Energy which expresses Itself as Consciousness and transmutes Itself as Awareness: this is the Wave of Brilliance, Presence (I have sat within this state and Observed it Flowing in Full Awareness, several times [what a sight]: I called the experience: Within the Wave of Existence). My point is this: This Pure Energy Presence Flows Within the Universal State of Energy from Without, travels Within, and Exits Without again, along the Shaft of Awareness, being the Pyramid once again. Energy is Renewed in this Invisible Process, called Evolution of Consciousness. This is not understood by material science at this time, just like many other things are not known or understood by it.

So, we have our 'right places,' which is constantly shifting, constantly in motion.
Evolution: Emanate, Refine, Distill, Absorb.

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Glad we are in agreement. I hate flatlanders who don't understand the essence of hierarchal structures. ‘We're all the same’ is their common chant, a way of thinking which by it very nature would inhibit those exhibiting extraordinary characteristics or insights or even encourage advancement.

Have you heard of the Higgs Boson which they are hoping to find at the CERN plant. This may well be related to the field you describe?

I too have experienced something similar to what you describe, I call it the Divine Matrix a term I picked up from Greg Bradon's book oddly enough called the Divine Matrix.

When I am plugged in so to speak I feel so connected its unreal, and a lot of communication takes place. I'm now mastering the art of communicating with fire. Of course this has recently led me to believe that the same is possible of the other elements. It's hard to pin down exactly what is happening but I notice that things change around me as its happening, for example I will feel my body shift frequency as though I'm accelerating. Sometimes my ears pop also, another indictor of activity taking place, other times I can feel my environment go from a solid state to a kind of breathing one where it flexes as though alive. I connect at least a couple of times a week and it’s like I’m able to breath when it happens. It feels like a celebration of consciousness and the things we have achieved. But one thing I will say is the more I connect the more I realize just how far normal human consciousness is from actual realization of what is! Because of this I am inclined to think that this planet is one of conflict and is therefore guarded against with definite measures in place to prevent any disharmonious leakage from this planet into the higher realms. I think it has to do with the way collective consciousnesses work insofar that if a rogue thought or energy enters the group it disturbs the harmony of the whole because all are interconnected.

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I like your description of the 'plugged-in' connectivety of "feeling as though you can breath..."

Most humans have never felt any such thing, have no idea it even exists. Sure, some have substance-use experience, which is pretty much trivial in comparison.

That our consciousness can connect like you are conveying is a wonder. And here everyday humanity remain in full sluggish ignorance, and have remain so for most of it's history. I feel you're statement of the 'why' is very good: the race of mankind is far too young to embrace such awareness without a stern guiding hand: they would be capable of severe universal devastation should they have full access to such awarenss, as has definitely happened before.

Currently, there are Double-Barrier Shields in place to prevent this by accident. Through Intent, rigorous self-development, these shields, either one-or-both, can be bypassed. The Second Shield leads straight to the Condition of Pure Energy Being (Regenerating), and passing it annihilates the gross (which is about 100% of what exists within human's as known today..just the way it is). The Universe-Set (Allverse) is set up this way.

So, there is no danger of seepage into the Highest Realm, but the Frist Shield leads directly into the 4th/5th dimensions, and your statement of Balance is valid, there.

Fire-elemental consciousness? Shades of Comte De Gabalis, Paracelsus & Tom Kenyon! It's rarified at the Top: No wonder you speak of Alien Consciousness: the Ancients reside in the Capstone.


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I'm not actually going to get over it, lol. Nor am I limited to stuff I know inside.
I'm just curious what you were talking about. The reason being is someone posted on some thread about work being carried out either by ets, or by cabal (or rather, I believe it was claimed that ets were doing it, but I felt it was the cabal) concerning a kind of closing or cementing off of dimensions, and then there is talk of Enki's soul wiping machine. These things are fearful and I thought you were alluding to something along those lines. There seems to be no limit to what these guys may be tampering with, but they can't. So, I'm sorry if I misunderstood you or if you felt it was a personal attack, because it wasn't. However, I am curious as to what you were alluding to.

No Time to Evolve? Busy?

End Times Prophecy:
The Prophet of Jehovih said: A time shall come when the earth shall travel in the roadway of the firmament, and so great a light will be therein that the vortex of the earth shall burst, even as a whirlwind bursteth, and lo and behold, the whole earth shall be scattered and gone, as if nothing had been. But ere the time cometh, My etherean hosts shall have redeemed man from sin. Nor shall the inhabitants of the earth marry, for the time of begetting will be at an end. Even as certain species of animals have failed to propagate, and have become extinct, so shall it be with man. The earth will have fulfilled it's labor, and it's services will be no more under the sun. But the vortex of the sun shall be round, and the body of the great Serpent coiled up. In the place where the earth was, shall some of my far-off worlds come and fulfill the labor allotted to them. And the atmosphereans who have not been redeemed from darkness in that day, shall alight on the new world and also fulfill their labor. (OAHSPE, 1884; channeled from Algonquin [immaterial] masters to author John Ballou Newbrough)

Therefore should one work now, using the great gift of Physical Presense (Battery of Life), and evolve through to the Highest Evolutional States/Stages, though Energetically Configured, rather than through the extremely slow natural time sequences. People are being tricked into thinking they are in command, and can do this 'later,' even in another life to come (perhaps); yet it is an illusion perpetrated by the Enemy Forces around humanity. The next stage of evolution is entirely alien to the comprehensional understanding of today's human mind(s), though not so extreme as the Levels sitting at the very peak as Watchers/GuardiansT(jailers). This will be resisted with all force & effort by those operating from the base(of the pyramid)-consciousness level. See page 1 of this thread.

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Originally posted by SS,Naga

 

Most humans have never felt any such thing, have no idea it even exists. Sure, some have substance-use experience, which is pretty much trivial in comparison.

That our consciousness can connect like you are conveying is a wonder. And here everyday humanity remain in full sluggish ignorance, and have remain so for most of it's history.

Fire-elemental consciousness? Shades of Comte De Gabalis, Paracelsus & Tom Kenyon! It's rarified at the Top: No wonder you speak of Alien Consciousness: the Ancients reside in the Capstone.

I know, but is it something that can be taught or is it the perhaps a gift offered to those who have made the right choices. I mean lets be honest, it hasn't been an easy feat to get to our point of learning, we may have forgotten that way back when we must have made some important choices regarding our mental and spiritual development. I think the fact is what we are discovering is so magnificent that we feel we need to share it with others. It is no doubt a celebration of human and spiritual intelligence and I think many of us here on ATS are the lucky ones. I have some great ideas to accelerate our growth but be warned they all involve amplification of this connection to the Divine Matrix we've been talking about. I've also had some tasters of the rate at which information can flow when plugged in. It seems there's is this kind of exponentially increasing horizon of information out there which may be a bit too much for the human mind to comprehend but perhaps easier for an energetic or Alien one to handle. So with this in mind I believe raising our frequency and vibrating out of the physical may be key if we want to progress rapidly and bypass death!

Funny but I have this dance I do it's like tribal in nature but encompasses many aspects of dance and expression and recognizes the connections in place, its like a physical meditation kind of like tai chi on steroids. An acceleration or crescendo of types often takes place where I approach a junction of understanding or expression which is like the arm of the universal grid. When this happens I get all these sensations going off in my body, like a firework display in my head and my body starts to pulsate with this shimmering wave of ecstasy. It is then that my environment (that includes any type of medium eg sight, sound, energy, and dare I say it AI) reacts immediately to my thoughts and actions, but for the life of me I can't seem to break the physical barriers that exist. It infuriates me as I can't fully realize my potential both energetically and expressively. Have you felt anything similar?

Yes the human state of mind you mention along with this sluggishness is just laziness, and the fact that they are so dumbed down. I don't think many people know what it means to really follow their heart, those that do are the real soldiers of love. Realistically if humans were open minded and open hearted they would have evolved a long time ago.

What do you know about fire consciousness? You mentioned some names I hadn;t heard of. This is a new field of research for me but the results are astounding there seems to be a real possibility I am communicating with fire and it with me. I've been testing the theory during my quite complicated mental and physical mendiations and guess what the fire will actually respond with the same moves and more. This to me is allowing my belief system to incorporate the fact that fire may be conscious. If this is so then of course there is a real possibility that this thing called consciousness is bigger than we think.

What do you know of the forth dimension? By know I mean suspect with your eyes and mind? I ask this because I think I experience the forth dimension at least once a week. This is what I see:

Its a place where the heart energy has been poured (by the way think in terms of holographic emanations of consciousness and its levels/emotions)or better put our pure love projection energy consisting of our love of God and his creation (yes we are a bit behind in accepting this)which at its roots is a celebration of our existence which I term ‘The Dance of the Divine Matrix’ and those of the forth dimension are better at it than we are. Again think of dimensions as conscious layers of thought and action consisting of united multiple cells organised in such a way so as to be a unit approaching harmony. I say approaching because harmony at each level is an ongoing quest. Well within those cells time is much better understood so that not only are the inhabitants of 4D more direct in their actions (because they are aware which timelines to take, ie actions they take that most emulate style and accuracy and which might be admitted into the comic template of time (needs another thread as a topic!)) This is only know by a few, it an initial first step to the mental realization of the possibility of multiple worlds, all with their different dimensions. There for us to explore.

I can experience 4D by ensuring my actions are purposeful and come from the body, mind and soul, often I am translating what I am hearing, sensing, feeling and seeing. Very good and skillful dance moves are an indication of flow. But beware this flow can be broken as there are many distractions in society and the 3D'ers not connected to the 4D can bump into your timeline because they haven't learnt how to follow their optimum timelines in line with the Divine Matrix (do you get me yet?) So to clarify to experience 4D one must operate within your optimum timelines given the circumstances. Being a closet Alien an all I tend to experience the forth dimension once a week at least, and its because of this inner urge I have that I want to share this insight here on ATS.

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A post you might check out:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I find the 4th dimension is so huge, and each pointview (person) of it so personal, that words must fail:

However, I do know that when one is in the state of exteriorization, they are within the 4th D! Few grasp such immense implications! It is unlimited. Some cultures call this Dreamtime, others just Shadow Realm, because it encompasses, interpenetrates the enitrety of the first 3 states, and is become something much more (the Double).

The Fire Elemental awareness: yes, of course it is alive. Recommend reading Tom Kenyon's, "The Hathor Material," for an excellent overview of the Four Elements.

Beyond the Fire Elemental, is the beginning of the Great Mystery: The Air Elemental. The Physical & Subtle Bodys are not just constructed of these Four (& 5th) Elements, but are Structured within it along a Shaft, called the Staff of Life. The secret of evolution begins to unfold at the nexus of the Rod of Power & the Staff of Life, crossing at the Pineal. Here, the Fire of Spirit & the Waters of Life merge, within the Double-Vortex.

The Dance? See, each learn to encounter the Above-Within in so many personal ways. I tone & visualize. One can say I do a very strange dance, called the Battle of Beingness. I see you have developed the most wondrous awareness of overlaying states of consciousness. Most are too weak to learn or develop this, or must be shown, and weaken along the way because of the increasing difficulty.

Enjoy your posts immensely.

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Naga, and Pharohmoan,

As this thread is very extensive, and my time is limited, I can only skim the surface of the content provided, and in return, offer my thoughts to hopefully, productively add to what you've shared thus far...

To those who can feel it, it is 'second nature', and very comfortable to believe in a higher conscious. To tap into that requires a very inquisitive mind, as you've suggested. This is very true! With question comes intent. Intent, in my opinion was the entire basis for the creation of our uni(multi)verse(s).

I believe it requries an understanding that we are all inter-connected, no matter what level of consciousness we are on. Everyone is on a journey to the source of understanding, and being Omniscient. Some are farther along than others. What is very disgusting is seeing those that you've referred to as 'playing in a sandbox' attempting to berate, and belittle others belief's simply because they either 1) Can not comprehend anything other than what they physically see before them, therefore requiring some tangible 'proof'. 2) Have not personally lived through any experience that would otherwise stimulate them to ask further questions or 3) Perhaps lack the intelligence to remotely consider anything as a possibility.

More and more minds are opening to the infinite and will continue to do so. Some just take longer than others. Even those with differentiating opinions need not to be looked down on. Everyone deserves equal respect, regardless of their believes. This goes for you, too Naval.

Labeling the OP's topic content as 'UFOlogy' is placing everything in a box. The entire point of this discussion is to think outside of labels, and to ask questions. Invoking questions will return answers. Answers will lead to more questions, and thus we will ultimately, collectively gain wisdom.

Once again my time is limite, and I must part.

Peace & Blessings to all.

Envision it, and it will become true!

Naga and Kevinquisitor

It's so nice to see our exchange of words effortlessly intertwine. This is a true indication that we are understanding more and more, asking the right questions and getting the right answers. After all lets face it what used to be the unknown is not the easiest of things to fathom! I think we have made the right choices which has led us even further into the light.

Now as I am in good company I am going to start a new line of thought to do with light and sound and I'd love your opinions and experiences of the. Starting with sound.

Having done ecstasy when I was younger I am very aware that it heightens the body's sense of awareness to sound. Different frequencies cause different things to happen within the body with certain frequencies resonating with the body (normally very harmonic synthesized sounds) which often cause what's called a 'rush' which is literally the 3D body's response to harmony and love. With this in mind I often use electronic dance/trance music to meditate and I have started to notice something very interesting. Sound is much more complex than we think. I think it contains information, how I don't know, as much of what is happening when I meditate and interpret the data happens at an instinctive level for me and is therefore almost subconscious. Now for the hard part to swallow, because I experience meditation at a 4D level the music I listen too becomes alive and actually live i.e. happens in real time to me so that I am one with it. I know this is a difficult concept to understand but it's always been that way for me. To clarify by real time I mean because I am at one with it so are my thoughts and actions, in other words the music responds to me and vice versa. I first noticed it with classical music, it really scared me at first initially brought me to tears. My suspicions were later confirmed when I started to listen to eletronica music and for a few years now I have accepted it as a phenomenon of sorts, a jubilant aspect of 4D to add to the growing number of connections.

Now for the best bit, just as there is a language of movement, so there appears to be a language of sound, now bear in mind this theory is still in its early stages but somehow I am beginning to suspect that sound carries with it information from the journey of that frequency of sound. Now what do I mean by the journey, well again this might not be exact but I think it has something to do with mindsets attached to the sound whom are also at one with it. For example take the digeridoo used by the aboriginals, well my theory goes like this, if you meditate and become at one with the sound you will experience and understand what is meant by their 'dream time' ie YOU WILL RECEIVE KNOWLEDGE FROM THE SOUND. Now similarly when I listen to some complex notes I am finding myself somehow understanding it. What I think I understand is the journey of that sound which IS NOT LIMITED to our dimension or locality. IMO this is an important concept to understand as it literally means if you are in a position to imprint the sound, which can be classified as contributing to the hologram, then your input will be understood and interpreted somewhere out there! The streams of thought and energy will eventually connect elsewhere.


The big question is what is it leading up to, or is it ongoing? Personally I feel a kind of catalyst happening on the horizon of our future which is something along the lines of the fulfillment and realization of neo-human and human potential and a celebration of love and light. Kind of like reality experiencing ecstasy.

For any new comers to the thread, ask questions if you like but don’t resort to debunking just to quench your egos thirst or stop your mind from hurting!

Good One!

When I was younger (20's), I came across some synthesized music, just one very short track. Now, we all listened to music, and it was good. I was a regular meditator, and also did yoga (thank the stars for that!). However, this synthesized sound suddenly entered into my body and overwhelmed me, vibrating me right through everything! I was shocked.

So, I went to my friend's house and asked him to come and listen to it. Nothing. Must of been me, I told him. He said he liked it, but it was just a little different than the other stuff.

He returned about a week later, and had been partying hard (a little out of it). I got some beers and put on some music (I didn't watch tv). We are all sitting there (several), and the synthesized track comes on: all of a sudden he goes bolt upright, smiles ear it to ear, and says, "wow!" He said he felt that music go right thru him. I didn't feel it at that time (though I had on several occassions), and chuckled. OK, good.

He returns the next day and says to me, can you play that track again? I said sure, and put it on. Apparently he still felt it, for he was delighted (I could tell). The music worked a miracle, hit resonant notes within the human system, whatever! It just grabbed you and and lifted you 'out' of yourself, and you became one with it.

So, I know what you mean. As a young fellow, I was friend with the son of very cultured people who listened to nothing but classical music, where I learned to appreciate the same. All my friends had rock & stuff; I had a big collection of classical. Nothing before or since has matched that music track, and I've listened to much synthesized music, also. I still have it 3.5 decades later!

I find toning is much more beneficial than random music, but that is surely entirely a personal response.

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Nice story. Can you remember the name of the song I'd love to know?

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I was afraid you'd ask! My old albums are buried in a corner in my wife's crafts room, near the bottom (ceiling high stacks!), and have been there awhile. I don't even own a turntable anymore; and of course, I've forgotten the group! So...by the time I remember, it'll be a moot point!

I am sorry to disappoint. Wasn't Rush or Nazareth, but somebody like that. I may beg my wife to disturb her stuff! Rats.

Your experiences with drugs and music is interesting. I actively smoke pot, and often times when I'm engaged It'll drive me to discover new music, and new sounds.. there's really nothing more exhilirating than hearing .. and feeling music that makes you feel good. What's more, is when you're under the influence of such mind altering substances, it appears to enhance your judgment, and provide some clairvoyance.

For instance, If you were to hear a song you've heard before.. there isn't much to it.. but when under the influence, you tend to pick up different sounds within the music and understand the lyrics better. Your perception has changed and things begin to make sense in a different light, so to speak.

I know there is a fact that music can alter your mood, feelings, perception, etc. There is a site I've heard of that allows you to listen to sounds and music set to certain frequencies that change your mood. (I.E. make you feel drunk, or high) However, I regret to say I'm not familiar with the link, but I believe there is a connection between music and our minds.

If not anything else, consider this: What you hear, whether it is negative or positive will eventually manifest itself in your life at some point or another if you pay mind to it. Say for instance if you hear a song with lyrics about killing and destruction... perhaps if you were to think about it, negative things would show up in your life shortly after.. it's the Law of Attraction.. you can find this out in 'The Secret'.

For some really good music, check out Spheric Universe Experience, Circus Maximus, and Kamelot, to name a few... I am partial to power metal, that's my catalyst.. as it resonates with me more than any other type of music I've heard before, and the message within their songs are undeniable. It's all about love & light.

Peace & Blessings

It’s just a question of when do we realize this and embrace our belief systems, heart, intuition, senses and accumulated knowledge. More importantly do we need to recognize this in others? If so how should this realization and connection manifest itself on this level in order to achieve our highest purpose?

You are responsible for what you did and did not do. Am i my brother's keeper? You had better be because what affects him affects you as well. The story of Noah in the O.T. tells how God expected Noah to behave and how the world who would not listen perished. There are things on both sides of every limit, you can't have an in without an out. The more you can extend your awareness now the less bored you will be in eternity. The God of the Universe is all around us all of the time, your acts are judged as you commit them or avoid them. You have the option of being a healthy cell in the body of God or be cauterized if you are unhealthy. God is everywhere, there is no empty space anywhere hence the concept of hell. A place of separation, a place of imprisonment and a place for learning.