India Under Terror Attack! At least ten people killed in Mumbai shootings: TV (now 125 +)

its' funny how when western media shows the hotel they say everyone is too scared to come outside, like mumbai residents.
streets are empty and everything.

then when you see indian media you see hundreds or thousands people just standing there not scared waiting to see what's gonna happen next.

reply to post by Jay-in-AR


no ones selling.. its being released as it is seen.. If that is difficult to digest.. then well..whatever..

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
its' funny how when western media shows the hotel they say everyone is too scared to come outside, like mumbai residents.
streets are empty and everything.

then when you see indian media you see hundreds or thousands people just standing there not scared waiting to see what's gonna happen next.

Yeah I was streaming IBN and people are up against the barricades waiting to see what happens. Apparently there was a ricochet of a bullet and a bystander got hurt. YET people are still watching. Just dismiss the MSM they portray every incident as the end of the world.

-Ign0RanT

[edit on 28-11-2008 by Ign0rant]

Published in the News Paper Mumbai Mirror Today which Arnab Just showed :yes:

He is just 21 yrs old and speak Fluent English


Ajmal made another important disclosure: that all terrorists were trained in marine warfare along with the special course Daura-e-Shifa conducted by the Lashkar-e-Toiba in what at once transforms the nature of the planning from a routine terror strike and into a specialized raid by commandos.



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Wow great find. When they said fluent English do they mean he spoke it properly without an accent? There is a huge difference with speaking the language properly and speaking with a heavy accent. I would be very scared if the man spoke fluent without a heavy south Asian accent.

-Ign0RanT

[edit on 28-11-2008 by Ign0rant]

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Nobody is selling what?
Hey, all I am talking about are the obvious contradictions in what we are seeing and hearing.
Many others are raising questions also.
As far as the oversized pictures of the same dudes (the only one we've seen since this thing has started, btw) talking about wanting to live, well that is just another question mark to me. For a few reasons. 1) I thought the Lashkar group was linked to Al-Qaeda and that they were on some sort of suicide mission (those captions claim otherwise). 2) Yeah, apparently he is fluent in English.

This story doesn't add up. Period.

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exactly what i had posted before,thanks for the images,didnt know how to embedd them,this just in,police sources have confirmed that the primary objective behind these attacks was to recreate another 9/11 and destroy the taj in the same manner as the jw marriott in islamabad,the RDX used in their operation was procured from pakistan


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Wow that some claim, can I get a source for that?

-Ign0RanT

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well if they're smart they will handle him with 'care'..
psyops to retrieve vital info can be a great asset.. priceless.. and with the apparent lack of intel, that would be crucial in calculating any accurate and precision based response strike..

where, who, when.. let the info flow..


Btw t0ken and jinni.. Pakistan does a volte face by deciding NOT to send the ISI chief..

www.ndtv.com...

reply to post by Jay-in-AR


Sorry for being smart Jay, I checked the post I was referring to made by Bombay2611 and it wasn't Raigarh but rather Raigad that was right across the bay.


*edit* The cell phone was tracked to Raigad, not Raigarh, according to this story: link



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reply to post by Ign0rant


actually this news was just released to the indian news channels just about 5 minutes ago as "breaking news",so obviously i cant provide any specifics or links

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I don't need to see a map of the place. What I'm saying is that I took the report off of Iibn.com (is that the correct url?) and PASTED THE WORDS VERBATUM to google maps.
Bombay had it wrong. That is evidenced by the reports that some of the terrorists are Bangladeshi. My speculation was correct, no matter how smart you are.

any clarification on the death of the senior ATS ?

i cannot imagine it was bad luck, a bullet in the neck when full protected with bullet proof gear-even head, it was reported.

sniper like, and not an amator one.

his killing one of the main objective of the operation ? why would islamists take so much care in killing that one guy that dared to look into hindu activism ?

who benefits from all this mess ?

on an international level, the zionists (as usual);

on a local level, BJP and RSS get relieved (at least for some time) of embarrassing investigations,

and this just before national elections,
moreover giving them very good fuel for their campaign speeches.

what a coincidence...

reply to post by ModernAcademia


Good find on the pictures!

Lets digest that for a second. Look at the third picture. ... "We dispersed and left our mission. I and my associate Abu Ismail Dera Ismail Khan, TWENTY FIVE, also a resident of Punjab PAKISTAN, left for CST railway station"... Not only does THIS ONE GUY speak fluent English, but he speaks in a very media-friendly way... He puts all the talking points out there for ya'.

ATS'ers what do you think would be America's response if this happened
at some promient locations in NYC next year...under the new Obama
administration? Would there be decisive police/military action taken,
or negotiations ending with substantial ransoms, or other forms of
rewards given to the terrorists for their violence?

Found this at Blacklisted News today:

Mumbai Attacks Look Like A Western Intel Operation

www.roguegovernment.com...

The recent terrorist attacks in Mambai India appear to be the work of a western intelligence agency. Sophisticated terrorist attacks are usually only executed by an institution with a vast amount of resources at their disposal, and not by terrorists living in a cave somewhere. History has shown that high profile terrorist attacks which get top billing in the media are in fact government sponsored. Already, India is blaming Pakistan for the attacks and we’ve also seen an onslaught of propaganda from media outlets attempting to place the blame for this attack on the fictional CIA founded organization Al-Qaeda. There are even eyewitness accounts saying that the attackers did not look like Indians but instead appeared to be western. In fact, some of the attackers have already been identified as British citizens of Pakistan origin. Of course none of that matters, since the media needs to sell the Al-Qaeda myth to the dumbed down masses here in America. Considering that Barack Obama has gone on the record talking about the possibility of using military force in Pakistani territory to go after Al-Qaeda terrorists, it looks as if this event is going to conveniently provide him the excuse to do so when he takes power in a few months. He can say that he is going after Al-Qaeda in Pakistan and the media will sell it as the right thing to do. Let’s face it; the only groups that would gain from the killing and wounding of hundreds of innocent people in India are western governments. It is allowing them to continue to sell the phony terror war to the dumbed down American sheep, it effectively plays off India against Pakistan and it provides the excuse for future U.S. military intervention into Pakistan.

Let's get into more detail about who will gain and why they stand to gain from these attacks. First, the attacks allows the media to re-introduce the idea of the phony terror war back into the public eye. Despite the fact that there is little to no evidence that this was pulled off by some sort of Islamic terrorist group it is being billed as such an attack by Al-Qaeda. In addition, we have coincidentally seen terror alerts with claims that Al-Qaeda is planning to attack subways and Amtrak stations the same day of the Mambai attack here in the United States. Even though the government can provide no specifics on the intelligence that lead them to conclude that this was a possibility, this has given them the excuse to pump more fear into the minds of the American people through the mass media propaganda complex. It has effectively brought the horror of the terror attacks in India closer to home in order to continue the media sell of the bogus terror war.

Second, it allows India and western governments to blame the attack on Pakistan as a pre-text to launch military operations on Pakistan soil. Obama has already said that he would take action against so called terrorists in Pakistan. Such attacks would not have anything to do with fighting the bogus terror war but instead would be used to exercise continued western influence in that portion of the world.

Third it serves as a way to create more tension between India and Pakistan both of which are nuclear powers and both of which have been fighting over the region of Kashmir for many years now.

Conveniently a new Al-Qaeda tape was released on the Internet yesterday showing the supposed number two of Al-Qaeda Ayman Al-Zawahri challenging the Bush administration to send the military into Pakistan. With each Al-Qaeda video and audio release it is becoming increasingly more obvious that Al-Qaeda is actually intentionally making statements to help fulfill the agenda of the west. If Al-Zawahri were really living in a cave somewhere it would be a little more difficult to make all of these video and audio tapes. Al-Qaeda is a fictional group created by the CIA, so considering that fact; wouldn’t it make more sense if Al-Zawahri were actually working for the CIA, instead of a phony organization that is really just a list of names? By challenging the Bush administration to send troops into Pakistan, he’s in fact giving credibility to the idea that there are terrorists that need to be defeated there.

Whenever these attacks occur, one has to look at who would gain the most from them. Clearly, the west has the most to gain from such an attack. They get to use these attacks to sell their phony terror war, play off India against Pakistan and it serves as a fantastic excuse to justify a future military invasion of Pakistan. The war on terror is a fraud and this appears to be yet another manufactured event that will allow the bloodthirsty criminals in Washington DC to continue their efforts in consolidating their power and control.

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You probably replied before my edit so I'll try again. Her cell phone was tracked to Raigad, not Raigarh, like your speculation suggests it was. Raigad according to the only story I can find:linked again

Bombay was right...

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It wasn't just the chief, it was the chief and the next three in line.

Yeah, it looks very much like a professional job. Target specific.

reply to post by ::.mika.::


well,yes a bullet did pierce one of the police officials helmet,it is being reported that,the bullet proof vests used were almost two decades old,they bought them in bulk during the '93 riots,and only few additional vests were ordered in 2001,so obviously,they werent exactly of the highest quality considering the kind of firepower they had to endure,a police is official is also reported to be dead,because of the injuries he suffered when bullets pelted his vest, on the other hand,a constable was saved,because the bullets,*in ripleys
believe it or not tone*.hit his metallic belt buckle!

now THATS what i call luck!

[edit on 28-11-2008 by xenomorph07]

reply to post by beaverg


Looks like we were looking at conflicting reports then.
I know for a fact I researched that one properly because I am not that familiar with the country.
The reason I can say that is because being unfamiliar, I had to make sure I copied the report letter-for-letter to make sure I was following the "official" lead.
This led me to look at the city under attack as compared to the location of the cell phone and deduce the logical place of retreat... To Bangledesh.

Edit - Doesn't really matter, though. There have been many conflicting reports in this thing.


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