India Under Terror Attack! At least ten people killed in Mumbai shootings: TV (now 125 +)

DFAT Names Aussies injured in Mumbai

Two Australians who were injured in the deadly Mumbai attacks this morning have been named.

They are 23-year-old David Coker from Townsville in Queensland and his girlfriend, 24-year-old Kate Anstee from Sydney.

The pair travelled to Mumbai yesterday to celebrate their graduation from the Australian National University.

Ms Anstee is undergoing surgery for a bullet wound to her thigh while Mr Coker has grazes to his legs.

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Originally posted by Sonya610

Originally posted by detachedindividual
Do you know how intelligence agencies work?

They gather information through monitoring communications by email, internet, phone... By interrogating captured suspects and criminal links to those planning events.
Gathering intel through communications is done by searching on key words and indicating factors including where the message originates, language used, order of words, nature of message and so on.
It's a very sophisticated system and doesn't rely at all on "special powers".

Yeah, and the terrorists are too dumb to code their messages huh?

And when the intelligence community says (and they used to say this a LOT after 9/11) the levels of chatter have risen and the threat alert it high is that because they understood what that "chatter meant?" No. They couldn't decipher most of it, they just saw increased activity and assumed that might mean something was going to happen (or perhaps you believe they caught all those bad guys which is why nothing has happened!)

I do not think for one minute that Al Queda would have to plan a huge attack in India to get a message out. I also don't believe for one minute the U.S. intelligence agencies can intercept and decode all electronic transmissions. The mess in Iraq has provided ample proof that our intelligence is not that good at all! WMD anyone?

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The term "chatter" is general. This only means that communications from and to specific areas has escalated in number, or that the use of key words has escalated. It has no relation to coding used as far as I am aware.

The coding on any message only goes so far, once the code is cracked all further communications are able to be interpreted unless a new formula is developed and then (somehow) communicated to the receiver.

The idea that all communications are successfully coded in elaborate ways that our intelligence agencies cannot crack is frankly ridiculous.

In my opinion, such groups would most likely either spread the orders and instructions directly, by going straight from the source to the target (which doesn't look likely when you see how these people operate before an attack), or they communicate by other means.

And why wouldn't they take out another target and use that to send a message to others? They have no morals, no value for human life, it's just another attack to them. It actually seems sensible and highly effective to use one attack to send a message to put into effect another, and so on.

This way the media does a lot of the work for them, and the chances of having information intercepted and plans destroyed are far less.

I also think the idea people have of AQ is wrong. This isn't one group of people all working directly below OBL, it's a franchise. Different groups with different goals align themselves with others to reach a target, and most of these groups could quite easily be traced back to AQ either through training, funding, ideology etc...

Look, my sources are telling me it's an inside job.

I know that India is working with-in it's own government to accomplish a "false-flag" operation.

They will only stop once they have created enough fear that they can ban guns and legalize prostitution...

Whatever guys, sometimes you take it way toooo far. Too Soon to be talking conspiracies, theres' not enough information to even discuss it.

Who Are the Deccan Mujahideen?

Today's horrific attacks in Mumbai were claimed by a previously unknown group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen. But one India journalist claims the pattern of the attacks suggests that Lashkar-e-Taiba, a nasty Islamist organization based in Lahore, Pakistan, and with a significant presence in Kashmir and links to al Qaeda, may be to blame.

Here's where it gets interesting -- and I stress here that I am just speculating. Lashkar-e-Taiba's main goal is to expel India from Kashmir. In the past, some have accused elements of the Pakistani military and intelligence services of having ties to the group. Pakistan's government has always hotly denied such accusations.

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Maybe false flag (once again) maybe not.. however, this is supposed to be a snapshot of 2 of the terrorists and they look strangly like westerners to me:



Kay

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One on the left looks like one of the original pictures that actually looked pretty dark skinned in another picture.

reply to post by ConservativeJack


I certainly don't think this is a false-flag attack. It seems too out of control. The outcomes are too unpredictable.

In fact, I haven't seen many on here suggesting that it is that.

Mumbai anti-terrorist chief Karkare killed in attacks

in.reuters.com...


Interesting, wonder if this was by design

More information and photos about the situation

globalvoicesonline.org...

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Originally posted by Kay_S
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Maybe false flag (once again) maybe not.. however, this is supposed to be a snapshot of 2 of the terrorists and they look strangly like westerners to me:



Kay

Without being rude but that's a slightly ignorant approach to take... How can you define "Westerners"? By place of residence? Birth? Origin?

I have many, many Indian friends who consider themselves "Westerners" because they were born here and believe themselves to be true Brits...

But then I have a couple of "Pakistani" friends who, although don't *despise* The West, consider themselves "Middle-Eastern" or w/e b/c they were originally born there.

They did an interview with a guy who was a British Indian on Sky News earlier, who was on holiday/vacation out there and his own words were

"They were looking for Westerners, like myself. Asking those who had British or U.S Passports to show themselves"

You cannot say (ESPECIALLY from those grainy photos) That those guys "Look like Westerners" C'mon now.

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As I have mentioned before, there is NO DOUBT there is a conspiracy here. Please, lets not rehash stuff already addressed 20 pages back.

reply to post by detachedindividual


I'm going to disagree. This is HIGHLY organized.

reply to post by Kay_S


They actually look like they may be one in the same. Who knows. the reports came in about 2 hours ago that the "terrorists" were fair skinned.

So could anyone who's getting better coverage than me atm, kindly post the latest goings on as of the last 15-30 minutes?

Thank you it'd be appreciated

India has been gripped by a number of devastating attacks this year.

Indian terror attacks in 2008:

• Oct. 30: Bombs kill 64 in Assam
  
• Sept. 30: Blasts in western India kill seven
  
• Sept. 27: Bomb kills one in New Delhi
  
• Sept. 13: five bombs kill 18 in New Delhi
  
• July 26: Twenty-some bombs kill 49 in Ahmedabad
  
• May 13: 68 people killed in bombings throughout Jaipur's markets
  

Mumbai has been attacked six times since 1993. The last major attack, in 2006, killed 200 on the city's rail transit.

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Brief recapping blog with important phone numbers

News update recapping blog with pics and video

Mumbai Emergency Numbers

Gunfire has once again broke out at the Taj

Originally posted by detachedindividual
I certainly don't think this is a false-flag attack. It seems too out of control. The outcomes are too unpredictable.

Yeah it does seem too out of control. If the Indian Goverment planned a false flag I would expect them to come out of it looking like johnny on the spot heros in the end.

They do not appear to have any control over the situation; not a good image to present.

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I can't say what has happened recently, but I would like to use this opportunity to tell EVERYONE this much. These folks are highly trained, organized and vigilant. They are LAYING SIEGE to this HIGHLY POPULATED city and HOLDING IT!!! These situations don't happen like this highly orchestrated and spread out through a major city without a high degree of organization...
Something big is going down right now, and I'll guarantee that after we have all slept and woken up tomorrow, this will still be ongoing.

TAJ Hotel issues Statement

MUMBAI SITUATION UPDATE
We are monitoring the development of the unfortunate situation unfolding in South Mumbai, in and around our hotel and are fully cooperating with the police and the government authorities to ensure the safety and security of all our guests and staff. That is all we can say at the moment and we would like to channelise all our efforts and energy to ensure a speedy normalisation of the situation as best as we can.
4am IST, November 27, 2008.

Taj Hotel

Considering the Mumbai anti-terrorist chief Karkare was killed in the attacks, I am guessing he wasn't "in on it"