Study finds only 'mystery planes' produce persistant 'contrails'

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by corvin77

 

Ok fluoride is getting way off topic here...but I gotta ask, since fluoride has been added to water supplies since the 1940's, what detrimental effects has it had on an entire generation of people?

The reason I mentioned fluoride, is because how it interacts with the brain and clings to substances such as aluminium and barium which in turn causes alzheimers, to just mention one of many.

Taken the sudden rise in alzheimers cases, and also the major projection for rises in alzheimers cases in coming years, not to mention decades, it does make one wonder!!

We suddenly have different sources containing different ingredients which are ingested/breathed/absorbed by the skin, and together form a lethal cocktail!! And these arnt even polutants, these are things like running water, toothpaste, deo, baby products, etc etc!
All these substances being added have been made compulsory by law for our wellbeing, huh????

If chemtrail speculation is true, the subtances contained in them would surprise surprise, only add to that lethal cocktail!! Explaining very well why there is sudden spurts of conditions like alzheimers!



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I guess this is one of those topics I have always considered a non-issue. It doesn't make sense to me why someone would want to "spray" the very air they have to breathe themselves.
Now, if I started to notice all of the Top Pentagon Brass walking around with respirators on, I would start to worry.

Same goes for the water, I suppose. Chemicals are necessary in our water to keep them from becoming bacterial sesspools.
I think with the planes it has EVERYTHING to do with the different atmospheric conditions at different altitudes.

As far as the water goes, I believe that this is the nature of social evolution. You develop a means to bring a single water source to a vast number of people but realize that in doing so, you are introducing harmful bacteria to the people because you are "pooling up" the water... So then you add chemicals to remove the bacteria, which causes other problems... Then you have to cure those problems through medicine, forcing an evolution of the species.

We hold our destiny in our own hands. If you don't have a clean spring in your back yard, you are going to have to deal with this.

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Originally posted by marsha law

It is not completely off topic as it appears fluoride,aluminum and barium combine in a pernicious way.

Here is a wealth of info on fluoride. www.fluoridealert.org...

Yes fluoride is off topic, unless it's being sprayed out the back of an airplane.

Barium and aluminum is prevalent everywhere you go, I would be more concerned if I were you about barium and aluminum coming from industrial operations like mining and manufacturing.

Seriously, have a search at just how much of this stuff gets pumped into landfill, waterway and the air.


Here's a good place to start:
EPA Chemical Report

k, just one question why did the german defense minister came forth about 6 months ago saying chemtrails are real.

Please review the entire document at this link and post comments.

www.osti.gov...

Mark

Originally posted by greeneyedleo
There doesnt seem to be any logical reason WHY the government would be "spraying" chemicals upon us. For whatever reason you could think of, it wouldnt be a prudent way of doing it.

Hmmm. I know this was posted a while ago but I had to chime in...

What if...they wanted to reduce the body's ability to fight off an airborne illness down the line. To prepare for that, they inject tissue-damaging stuff into the air supply so that when they decide to add anthrax or bird flu or whatever, the lungs of most are lacking in sufficient defenses?

In fact, it seems to me that the chemtrail solution would be the optimal solution.

How would YOU go about accomplishing this better and easier?

Originally posted by Amaterasu


What if...they wanted to reduce the body's ability to fight off an airborne illness down the line. To prepare for that, they inject tissue-damaging stuff into the air supply so that when they decide to add anthrax or bird flu or whatever, the lungs of most are lacking in sufficient defenses?

The mortality rates from anthrax vary, depending on exposure, and are approximately 20% for cutaneous anthrax without antibiotics and 25 - 75% for gastrointestinal anthrax; inhalation anthrax has a fatality rate that is 80% or higher.

www.fda.gov...

Anthrax doesn't need much help.
Keep reaching.

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Originally posted by Amaterasu

Originally posted by greeneyedleo
There doesnt seem to be any logical reason WHY the government would be "spraying" chemicals upon us. For whatever reason you could think of, it wouldnt be a prudent way of doing it.

Hmmm. I know this was posted a while ago but I had to chime in...

What if...they wanted to reduce the body's ability to fight off an airborne illness down the line. To prepare for that, they inject tissue-damaging stuff into the air supply so that when they decide to add anthrax or bird flu or whatever, the lungs of most are lacking in sufficient defenses?

In fact, it seems to me that the chemtrail solution would be the optimal solution.

How would YOU go about accomplishing this better and easier?

I wouldnt go about doing it, by spraying it into the air 30K feet up in the sky with it being IMPOSSIBLE to hit some target area. Probably water or maybe in flu shots which are now being handed out very cheap or free in many places....or doing low spraying over farm lands would be way more productive and accurate.

Those planes spraying crops do NOT create trails like you see in the skies. And they are literally spraying chemicals. Those sprays fall immiediately to the ground and are sprayed VERY close to the ground to ensure it drops where wanted.

So the point is: spraying chemicals at 30K feet upon us is useless and is not productive and just wouldnt work. Thus the reason bug sprays and crop sprays are done very VERY close to the ground.

Also, these trails can be found over military bases....and I can promise you that the families and military members are not being protected or treated differently then John and Jane Doe living in some metro city. So why the heck would they be spraying military people and their families...and why would they be spraying their own families who live below the skies they alledgely spray? If they are trying to kill off the military and their families (including Base commanders who are reqired to live on base) - then who is going to protect the country??


There just is no reason or logic to the chemtrail theory. IMO




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reply to post by greeneyedleo


Feet, GEL, feet.
You did get it right the second time.



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Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by greeneyedleo

 

Feet, GEL, feet.
You did get it right the second time.

[edit on 26-11-2008 by Phage]

Thanks. I type too fast. I think I edited that a number of times. GRRRR.

reply to post by greeneyedleo


Here is an article about how the armed forces are made ill by their vaccinations.

I think the gov. would love to kill them off.

Don't need loyal soldiers in a fascist coup


www.populistamerica.com...

Originally posted by marsha law
reply to post by greeneyedleo

 

Here is an article about how the armed forces are made ill by their vaccinations.

I think the gov. would love to kill them off.

Don't need loyal soldiers in a fascist coup


www.populistamerica.com...

Still no logic behind that. Why kill them off? Why not just get rid of the military then? Why spend billions on the military if they want them all dead? Why put millions into building NICE homes and various faciliaties on military bases for the military members, if they just want to kill them off?

I highly doubt that TPTB want NO military. Again, no logic or reason behind that thought.

I agree that vaccines are not so great. But they and their families are not given ANYTHING to prevent harm from whatever you think is being sprayed into the skies....which is the topic of this thread.

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Originally posted by greeneyedleo


There just is no reason or logic to the chemtrail theory. IMO

While I agree that pretty much 98% of the chemtrail believers have the incorrect definition of what chemtrails are for - I myself do not hold the answer either. This does not prevent me from being a believer however, as the old saying goes "seeing is believing".

I have heard everything from "climate control" to "chemical warfare testing" both of which are approved through legislation but would be a foolish mistake by the government. After all you don't poison your own soldiers.

Does anybody have a decent theory to the chem trail phenomenon? Possibly backed by government documents more current than 70's?

Originally posted by greeneyedleo

Also, these trails can be found over military bases....and I can promise you that the families and military members are not being protected or treated differently then John and Jane Doe living in some metro city. So why the heck would they be spraying military people and their families...and why would they be spraying their own families who live below the skies they alledgely spray?

There just is no reason or logic to the chemtrail theory. IMO

Well here is a counter argument for you..

Fluoradated water reaches everyone, why would the people that are contaminating our water supply poison their own families?

I can think of several different reasons..
- they dont know any better
- they are only doing their job
- their immediate need is money, to keep their families eating

In a perfect world, your way of thinking might be logical..

But there are to many examples (Besides water fluoridation) that can prove your naive view of our world!

reply to post by greeneyedleo

Actually the topic of the thread is that only unidentified planes leave persistent trails but since you brought it up I can think of some very good reasons to shorten or end the lives of the military men and women.

1. save on benefits and retirement
2.the military takes a pesky pledge about defending the country from enemies within.
3.plenty of foreign soldiers to do the fascist coup.



"Canada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the militaries from either nation to send troops across each other's borders during an emergency..... Gen. Gene Renuart, and Canadian Lt.-Gen. Marc Dumais, head of Canada Command, signed the plan, which allows the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a civil emergency. " from here www.freerepublic.com...

Same agreement with Mexico. Lots of reports of UN troops hiding out as well.

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Guys.

The topic of this thread is

"Study finds only 'mystery planes' produce persistant 'contrails'"

And not anything to do with Fluroide, or troop agreements etc.

Lets stick to the actual topic please and avoid clouding the issue with non sequitur stuff.

See what I did there? the 'lil pun......can you see it?

once upon a time i was a little boy living in Germany
soon moved back to Greece
and when higher education time came, i went to the UK for five and a half years.........guess what----> Vapor-trails were there all the way for this 30 year period and they will be if we manage to let our plannets poor atmosphere take a break. Nothing has changed and there is no such noncense as a chemtrail. Not in a global fashion anyway. (there could be rare exceptions-theoretically)
So i am sorry but this IS A NATURAL PHAENOMENON both according to my education, my observation and my critical thought.

Be well and i suggest worrying about other much more important matters.
Respect to all !!!
GIO

reply to post by GEORGETHEGREEK


Don't understand where you are talking about. The UK, Germany,Greece?
Anyway this thread is about which planes leave chemtrails.

If you don't buy it stop bumping and it will go away.

here is some pictures of chemtrails over my place...

this one is very low altitude...
i332.photobucket.com...

and another
i332.photobucket.com...

i have more recent ones,but have not had time to upload them..

my advice is to take picture/video as there may come time for justice...

do some heavy metal cleansing(liver/kidney) and take care of yourself..

i would like to take the time to LOL @ the perps of these chemtrails as your day will come.

namaste'