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Russian analyst predicts decline and breakup of U.S.

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posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 01:10 PM
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Russian analyst predicts decline and breakup of U.S.


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MOSCOW, November 24 (RIA Novosti) - A leading Russian political analyst has said the economic turmoil in the United States has confirmed his long-held view that the country is heading for collapse, and will divide into separate parts.

He predicted that the U.S. will break up into six parts - the Pacific coast, with its growing Chinese population; the South, with its Hispanics; Texas, where independence movements are on the rise; the Atlantic coast, with its distinct and separate mentality...
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posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 01:10 PM
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Very interesting article in News Headlines from RIA Novosti...

" Panarin, 60, is a professor at the Diplomatic Academy of the Russian Ministry for Foreign Affairs, and has authored several books on information warfare."

This guy is position where he can know things, what we cant imagine here in ATS, and to get tittle like "leading analyst" doesnt leave any thoughts from his wider reputation in Russia... Professor Igor Panarin... I dont know anything from this guy yet, but his name will be researched, at least by me!

He sees USA as sinking ship, no doubt about that. He even mentions those secret ties we all know here so well, and sees some problems in Illuminati power structures;

" He also cited the "vulnerable political setup", "lack of unified national laws", and "divisions among the elite, which have become clear in these crisis conditions."

I have smell a war amongst banksters in these days my self too, and I think there are many who will not see USA in total destruction, in front of this greater cause, New World Order. Some of the Elite just profits too much from this situation, they have everything ok in their life, and they resist destruction of their wealth... they still see many good things in USA, and they are not ready to make that demanded ultimate "Rothschild sacrifice" what is called in head of New World Order... "Destruction of western civilization."

Any thoughts?


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posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 01:15 PM
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i believe this is 10 years away ,this situation ,



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 01:24 PM
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What?

The Russians are hoping for the demise of the United States???



What else is new?




posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 01:29 PM
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No doubt. I think it's hilarious that they would make any predicitons on the US given that everyone knows that if it comes out of russia, it's state sanctioned propoganda.



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 01:39 PM
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Before the union dissolves there will be a violent revolt in the major elite centers of the nation. NY, and DC, will be especially horrific. If they are successful in killing the America we know was intended to exist as a bastion of freedom; they will pay in ways they have not yet begun to imagine.

It is the bane of elitism that their hubris blinds them to their own frailties.

"We make your meals, we clean up after you, we make life enjoyable for you..., do you think we can't 'get at you' if we want?"



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 01:45 PM
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"Why in the earth" you all think that everything what comes from Russia is just "propaganda" ... Isnt that just the real cause to your blindness to see the truth? Its same if I said that everything what comes from USA is just propaganda, or Britain, or anywhere else... Truly. I can not believe that we live in same planet.

You guys really are living in the past... Go to Russia and see the truth your self, how they are more free than USA has ever been. After the collapse of USSR, there is no evil government behind your back, its capitalism, more than US ever been, and that is the reason that THEY HAVE gold and wealth, and NO DEBT either... and USA DONT HAVE gold, but debt THEY HAVE.

Stop been arrogant, and start listen the world, you can learn something > USA is nothing but suffering state these days, collapsing imperium, and its people full of blinds and arrogants.

Stop The War!



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 02:08 PM
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This chap sounds like he may have read a few Judge Dredd, 2000AD comics in his youth.

en.wikipedia.org...

Borag Thungg, Earthlet




posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by JanusFIN
Stop The War!


Love to.

Perhaps first you should heed your own advice and stop trying to propagate one with you anti-American rhetoric.




posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 02:13 PM
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It's actually one of the best solutions to save US in long term. It's pretty unstable allready and with separating it they could actually help a lot of people (it's just my opinion ... I thought of this few month ago). They could make some kind of "North American Union" like EU.



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 02:19 PM
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It may turn out to be a case of "all the chickens coming home to roost" (or along those lines) for the USA.

For decades they have been trying and achieving to divide and conquer other nations around the world, and in the end, they will become a victim of their own "divide and conquer" policies with everyone breaking apart for themselves.

I agree with previous poster who said this was 10 years away. I think it will be a long and hard ten years trying to keep afloat, but sink in the end.



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 02:20 PM
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Wait...Russia, the country that collapsed just...20 years ago, says the U.S. is headed for collapse....when they themselves are in the midst of a stock market and currency collapse...
Their markets are down 80+% this year, and their currency makes the U.S. look like it's back on the gold standard
How ironic. The U.S. went into and out of the Great Depression without breaking up, went through the Civil War and reunited...I'm going to have to put my faith in America. We've had ideological and economies woes WAY worse in the past, and that little document, the Constitution brought us back together.

[edit on 24-11-2008 by yellowcard]



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by JanusFIN
reply to post by HunkaHunka
 


"Why in the earth" you all think that everything what comes from Russia is just "propaganda" ... Isnt that just the real cause to your blindness to see the truth? Its same if I said that everything what comes from USA is just propaganda, or Britain, or anywhere else... Truly. I can not believe that we live in same planet.

You guys really are living in the past... Go to Russia and see the truth your self, how they are more free than USA has ever been. After the collapse of USSR, there is no evil government behind your back, its capitalism, more than US ever been, and that is the reason that THEY HAVE gold and wealth, and NO DEBT either... and USA DONT HAVE gold, but debt THEY HAVE.

Stop been arrogant, and start listen the world, you can learn something > USA is nothing but suffering state these days, collapsing imperium, and its people full of blinds and arrogants.

Stop The War!


Well, apparently you are pretty ignorant yourself, because the state controls the media in Russia...on print it's a little more liberal...but only a little, on television everything goes through the Kremlin.



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 02:31 PM
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Remember, it's "ONLY" someone's "THEORY".

Being in the US, fully agree everyone has their right to their opinion, even if it is wrong.

I think in all probability, this prediction is wrong.

Another thing to take into account is Russia's "desire" to have the US breakup.

In doing so, they probably think Russia and China will rule the world, as a broken up US would no longer be able to project it's strength, perhaps not even able to protect themselves from other countries...........................



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 02:37 PM
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In doing so, they probably think Russia and China will rule the world, as a broken up US would no longer be able to project it's strength, perhaps not even able to protect themselves from other countries......................


correction ,they see china-india-russia alliance controlling the planet



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 02:47 PM
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He is not the first to say USA will divide in multiple parts with different presidents.

If civil war, social metdown starts in USA this is more than likely.



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 02:49 PM
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Could it be that this academic fururist is actually speaking of Russia...

but using the USA as a metaphor, to conceal the destructive nature of his insights from the Russian government censors ?


Russia still spans more time zones than the USA, and Russian states differ significantly more than the homogenous USA...

there are Muslim enclaves under Russian leadership for example.
N.Ossetia and the regions in Georgia which wish to cede into Russia
are far cries from vast areas & populations of Siberia and many other places in the borders of greater Russia.


this prognosticator is taking a page from the Nostradamus model ...
in conceiling his predictions in a maze of obfuscation,

~~~~ more power to him ~~~!



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 02:50 PM
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I dont think we should break up and I hope we dont. I just want to off the FED and off the 16th Amendment. For these things to happen though it might just take another civil war though.



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 02:53 PM
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If it does happen , make sure you disarm all those religious fanatic states . We don't want them sorts with sole control over nukes.



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 03:03 PM
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If this happens to the U.S. where does he think Russia will be? Their currency is already facing huge pressures and their markets have increased more than almost anyone (they had to suspend trading almost every day for a while). Not to mention, the only thing that allowed Russia to grow was the price of oil. If the U.S. breaks up, guess where that price will be? Probably like 15 dollars a barrel. The Kremlin wouldn't even be able to buy the bullets to kill journalists anymore.



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