Germany to Cause WW3

reply to post by mopusvindictus


The scenario just makes no sense at all. The biggest hand in Middle East affair is the United States along with its allies whom followed us there.

If what you say is true and the middle east and Israel are the most likely WW3 scenario then the United States (the biggest hand in these affairs) would be to blame. Germany is simply along for the ride like many world powers when it comes to international affair.

Germany can recreate the axis of power it did during worldwar 2..
it can (if it was made) would most likely consist : Germany,Israel,Asutria,Serbia,MAYBE EAST RUSSIA.

Originally posted by xXxArMaGeDdOnxXx
Germany can recreate the axis of power it did during worldwar 2..
it can (if it was made) would most likely consist : Germany,Israel,Asutria,Serbia,MAYBE EAST RUSSIA.

Impossible situation and would not benefit Germany in any way. Israel is the palm of the United States hand, otherwise they would not have nuclear weapons to defend themselves.

Your situation would assume Germany has a drive to start world war 3.

reply to post by xXxArMaGeDdOnxXx


Oooh, a fearsome combination! Germany, Austria and Israel are, compared to the might of NATO, insignificant military powers. Israel being the strongest and they would still lose against a Western alliance.

What you just listed their wasn't anywhere near what the Axis was like in WW2. Austria was annexed after a far-right coup, Israel didn't exist and they are JEWISH and the Russians made the biggest sacrifice of all when fighting against them in WW2.

Not going to happen. Germany is extremely pacifist and is not a first rate military power these days. I am at a loss as to why and how you think they'll return to militarism, let alone attack their neighbours.

and I'm not "blaming Germany" lol

Like i said they are a world player, the decisions matter. Your not freed from mistakes you made just because it wasn't your intent...

I'm Jewish, i want my people to GTFO of there, it's an inevitable nightmare...

I wouldn't give them squat,

Because in the end, as the world sees it... this is good, Arabs/ and or Persians attack israell...maybe if we luck out with Russias help...

and Israel in it's deaths throes , takes out all our enemies and we don't face retaliation

There are those in Nato who LOVE that scenario

No More Jews, no More Mideast problem either... maybe even no more Russia to contend with

an absolute WIN for the West, all they loose is another 9 million Jews

So sure, sell them subs... and then act appalled when they use them

it's still a setup

and Germany is still implicated unless your blind to it all

and so is the US YES

and the rest of Europe for letting the deal go through

But how Great would it be for Nato if, Moscow got a couple of Icbms dropped on Major cities and there was no cause for retaliation against us??

and add to that... Syria, Gone, Tehran Gone, Cairo gone...and who knows who else...

and I think.... Jews in israel are morons for not seeing what's coming here and, i almost don't even care at this point, because my family had the sense to get rid of that place a century ago, nothing but trouble

reply to post by blowfishdl


Yeah as above I'd agree with that...

Maybe for most involved the theory is that it will Prevent ww3

But, allot of Israelis are frackin nuts

allot of them!!!!

and I'm Jewish and I'm the first to say it

It's a good move, make money and if Israel uses the stuff, your power ranking in the world goes up without most likely any immediate consequences

Business as Usual

Agreed

But, wars start, however they start

even if non intentional

and The US would be to blame too... we sell our crap to everyone!

but it doesn't take the blame away when they use the stuff, that's all

Lot's of ways to start and benefit from wars, even ones you never participate in, Russia and America have been doing it for profit since ww2

and I'm American and...yeah the blame for allot of wars is US selling the means to wage them

I can see how israel would not join germanys alliance because they are the u.s.a's pawn but a team of Germany and Russia under one dictator would create utter chaos.

Germany,Iran and Russia

All germany needs is one crazy dictator and enrage the german public to enroll ww3

Originally posted by mopusvindictus
reply to post by blowfishdl

 

Yeah as above I'd agree with that...

Maybe for most involved the theory is that it will Prevent ww3

But, allot of Israelis are frackin nuts

allot of them!!!!

and I'm Jewish and I'm the first to say it

Nobody in their right mind will disagree with you. In fact the more likely scenario is that Israel triggers WW3 by launching preemptive nuclear attacks in attempt to save the seizure and destruction of Jesus' supposed birth place and the most holy land on earth.

At which point I would still blame religion for WW3 rather than Israel or Germany.

reply to post by xXxArMaGeDdOnxXx


You could say that about any European power though, why Germany? The most pacifist nation in Europe! How on earth would anyone "dictator" like be elected in Germany?

They have PR voting, so no one party ever gets a significant majority, so there are always alliances in parliament.

In order to become a Dictator in Germany you'd have to one awesome politician, or have a repeat of how Hitler got into power on the back of crippled German economy with hyperinflation.

The scenario you describe would have to have an awful lot go on before it to even have a slight chance of becoming true.

reply to post by blowfishdl


well, that's the only place we'd disagree

I mean yeah religion no1 cause...

But I think in Nato letting this deal go through... it crosses their minds that, "we might just get rid of that religious problem in the region without spilling our own blood this way"

Certainly the event scenarios were entertained before the sales were authorized

or who knows, maybe it's just that Crazy that... the stuff gets sold for profit and no one stops to think about it...

as far as

This wierdness of a German alliance

It has one: Nato and the EU...

For all intents and purposes none of these sales are German alone but rather under NATOs watch which makes

all of us responsible for what happens (or rather all our so called leaders)

reply to post by mopusvindictus



Precisely and upon drawing this conclusion for yourself you can see the reality that pointing a finger at Germany for WW3 is radical nonsense. It almost entirely ignores the atrocious human rights violations in both of the US wars, as well as the growing interference among anti-US groups. All of which have grown enormously since the invasion of Iraq. We killed so many civilians that ordinary people like you and me watched their loved ones slaughtered and now vow to die in a fight against the United States.

I would love to be able to blame Germany for future international affairs however, it is my country (the United States) whom is to blame for the next decade of war.


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Well The U.S and Israel will need another puppet partner...

Originally posted by xXxArMaGeDdOnxXx
Well The U.S and Israel will need another puppet partner...

The United States has no fear to admit to being the invader of Iraq. We also have spoken very openly in the past of fighting for a NWO. Not so much recently because we are obviously in the act of initiating this NWO.

Anyone in the world is the United States puppet. It will remain this way until either our economy collapses or we are no longer the #1 military power of the world. Our military power is being threatened currently by China.

Originally posted by blowfishdl
Impossible situation and would not benefit Germany in any way. Israel is the palm of the United States hand, otherwise they would not have nuclear weapons to defend themselves.

Impossible situation and would not benefit Germany in any way. United States is the palm of the Israel hand...

Fixed.

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Originally posted by eldard

Originally posted by blowfishdl
Impossible situation and would not benefit Germany in any way. Israel is the palm of the United States hand, otherwise they would not have nuclear weapons to defend themselves.

Impossible situation and would not benefit Germany in any way. United States is the palm of the Israel hand...

Fixed.

[edit on 23-11-2008 by eldard]

HaHa. While I will not agree with you I will say it is a mutual relationship. Also, we can all agree that the accusation of Germany's role in a future WW3 is currently false.

reply to post by blowfishdl


Bro, your allies are your allies and share the responsibility

Not a matter of Blame Germany or Blame USA

it goes all the way back, if Germany didn't do what IT did, there would be no Nato, no division of Germany no cold war..

and NO take over of the USA by the Military Industrial Complex as a result

It's easy to blame the USA

but what created this beast

WW2

and we were not arse holes at the time

I think it would be honestly fair to say, that this is just... a Pause in WW2

that the cold war, was Half time

Because it's the same crap Jews... Europe, The Mideast, Russia and US

The stage was set by a war we had nothing to do with

and

Why are we in Europe?

Europeans like Nato...

Like I said earlier, Austria couldn't have fought ww1 without Germany

We couldn't have fought these wars without NATO

and they have us there so they don;t have to pay out the nose for defense to the level we do...

so they help create this monster

and are NOT absolved of responsibility for that

particularly for us the American people who... never wanted to be involved in any of this old world crap, nor like living under the Uber Power of the Military Industrial Complex

so if we wanted to bring it all down to the bare bones of it all

None of this would be, Israel, the EU, the Cold War... all the little wars we fought, the USA as a Super Power

If, it wasn't for Hitler

Nor could we have invaded Iraq without Nato and no Israel there

No bases, no information no allies, no places to launch planes or fuel or supplies from...

without NATO

Of which Germany is a Member

Peaceful people

Heck yeah, (so am I mainly despite crazy talk of killing aliens sometimes)

But as long as Europe is part of Nato, they caused those wars as much as we did

The next major war will be caused by covert operations between the CIA, NSA and Mossad.

reply to post by xXxArMaGeDdOnxXx


Albert Pike told us in 1871 what would happen to bring about WW III. They carried out WWs I and II perfectly according to the blueprint, I see no reason why they would deviate from their plans now.

reply to post by mopusvindictus


Yes well we are going back to a statement that I previously said which is:
"This reminds me of 9/11 number coincidences such as 9+1+1=11"

Or, an even better analogy is between this and the Nostradamus predictions.

In this way we could blame Einstein for the bombings of Nagasaki and Hiroshima because he was one of the big brains behind the project. However, Einstein is certainly not to blame and instead a much higher power was in control. The same goes for this situation. The person to blame is the person who pushes the big red button.

reply to post by blowfishdl


It's not supposition though

You can BLAME EINSTEIN

Responsibility is responsibility, allot Of European people who, are sick of war, are open minded... hate this line of thought, and allot of Americans are made at Bush and blame ourselves (rightly so)

None the less a CAUSE is a CAUSE

and people were given free will

EINSTEIN himself regretted having made the bomb possible

Einstein's greatest role in the invention of the atomic bomb was signing a letter to President Franklin Roosevelt urging that the bomb be built. The splitting of the uranium atom in Germany in December 1938 plus continued German aggression led some physicists to fear that Germany might be working on an atomic bomb. Among those concerned were physicists Leo Szilard and Eugene Wigner. But Szilard and Wigner had no influence with those in power. So in July 1939 they explained the problem to someone who did: Albert Einstein. According to Szilard, Einstein said the possibility of a chain reaction "never occurred to me", altho Einstein was quick to understand the concept (Clark, pg. 669+; Spencer Weart & Gertrud Weiss Szilard, eds., "Leo Szilard: His Version of the Facts", pg. 83). After consulting with Einstein, in August 1939 Szilard wrote a letter to President Roosevelt with Einstein's signature on it. The letter was delivered to Roosevelt in October 1939 by Alexander Sachs, a friend of the President. Germany had invaded Poland the previous month; the time was ripe for action. That October the Briggs Committee was appointed to study uranium chain reactions.

In 1905, as part of his Special Theory of Relativity, he made the intriguing point that a large amount of energy could be released from a small amount of matter. This was expressed by the equation E=mc2 (energy = mass times the speed of light squared)

And how did Einstein feel?

Einstein wrote sadly to another dismayed American: 'I am badly in need of encouragement. I have the impression that our nation has gone mad and is no longer open to reasonable suggestions.'

and

But with misty eyes, Einstein explained how sometimes a person has to create tools of war for the sake of peace

Okay... Einstein KNEW that he was partly at least responsible for the invention of such awful things and he spent his life ADMITTING IT and Trying to correct it

THAT IS GENIUS

so you say we can't connect it to Einstein

YES WE CAN

and He Did Himself... because in the end, it' not making connections it's Real

When you are Part of a Military Alliance you can't Blame the leader of the Alliance

Europe has to accept it's role in all of this and not cry pacifisct just like Albert did

When you sell first strike capacity to Isreal

and you land US Bombers in your Nation

You have waged War

Your guilty period, it';s not debatable

Members of NATO

There is no war in the Mideast without Nato, the A Bomb wasn't a reality in WW2 without Einstein

You can't

wash your hands of responsibility in life for your actions

or you can, but it doesn't make you a very honorable person or nation