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Originally posted by plumranch
reply to post by LittlePinky82
I mean heck I'm a Communist and I voted for Obama. Not because he's anything close to anything I believe in but because I know there's so much work to do and we have to do it together.
Hi Pink,
Well heck, since you're a communist and I see you are good buds with brother Castro, why don't you go down to Cuba and enjoy the good Cuban life? Castro would embrace a fellow communist and you could live in social bliss for a few years. Castro would probably slip you a few extra pasos every month so you could live above the poverty level that the rest of his citizens are forced to suffer! Why spend your life in mizery up here in relative political freedom thanks to Bush, Reagan, Eisenhower, Teddy Rosevelt, Abraham Lincoln and other Conservatives? Just wondering..
Originally posted by jsobecky
reply to post by LittlePinky82
Originally posted by LittlePinky82
Also the whole Joe Biden and plagiarism thing is just b.s. He time and time again throughout that campaign credited who he was quoting except one time and he corrected the mistake like the next day. Also Bill Ayers was never convicted of a crime and I don't believe he ever served any crime either. If he was still such a terrorist like Sarah Palin kept claiming why didn't anyone call the FBI?
I take it you are a Obama supporter.
What is worse than not knowing the answers to candidate positions is ignoring the truth about them.
Do you seriously think that Ayers was not a terrorist?
Here's a riddle: Who said this:
“Guilty as Hell, Free as a Bird, America is Great…” -
Here's a hint: A picture of him standing on the American flag.
[edit on 23-11-2008 by jsobecky]
Originally posted by Spectre0o0
ALL THESE DEMOCRATIC REPLIES MEAN,is that education does not help in making sound decisions.
the people who are stating their negative opinions about barak,SIMPLY DON'T LIKE OR TRUST HIM. SO AS SOUTHERN GUARDIAN SAID,"GET USED TO IT."
and he did prey on the vote from the poor and uneducated. he lied at every oppurtunity. please don't try to refute that ,it really makes you look uninformed.
Originally posted by jsobecky
reply to post by gimme_some_truth
Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
There was no deflection what so ever on there part.
I think you meant their part. You went to college, right?
Regardless, I know deflection when I see it. I'm right, you're wrong. End of discussion.
How can you possibly think that over 62 million people who came from different backgrounds, environments, cultures, races, religions genders are all uneducated?
I never said all Obama voters were uneducated. But the percentage that won the election for him were, to a very large part. I'm sure I could recreate the very same results as the videos today, because most Obama voters don't know the issues at all.
The people that truly understand the issues voted against Obama. That's why they lost. There are too few people in the US who are truly "educated".
Originally posted by Spectre0o0
Originally posted by vBreezo
Perhaps it would be better if political commercials were banned and all potential voters were required to take a course in social issues before getting a permit to vote. Only those voters who could pass a "political awareness" test would be given a ballot to mail in by a deadline date.
An election decided by the masses of ignorant people who are easily influenced by propaganda campaigns are one of the reasons why a direct democracy was decided against and a representative republic was the choice of those who wrote the Constitution. (they knew human nature even though the concept of "mass media" was totally unknown at the time) The concept of a pure "Democracy" was feared by those liberal thinkers of the late 1700's which is why we have never truly had a democracy - here or anywhere else.
The current national election process is too long, requires too much money and the choices are too limited. No matter what, the power elite always wins; the people always lose.
yeah maybe we can make that part of our 50 hours of slavery,i mean,community service every year(100 HOURS FOR YOU COLLEGE PEOPLE). AND MY MOM,WHO IS 76 JUST CAN'T WAIT TO GET AT IT!
senior citizens are included too.
i wonder how many obama supporters would have changed their mind if the msm had really pushed that into the public light every day !?!?!?!?!?!?!
and i do not disagree with educating people who have the right to vote, or silenceing
the msm pundents
[edit on 23-11-2008 by Spectre0o0]
[edit on 23-11-2008 by Spectre0o0]
Originally posted by REXIMUS
while this can go on forever, it seems there is a bigger underlying cause. THE MEDIA!!! Yes this thread about how obama allegedly won the election but all it is crap. Most people base their decisions on what the media produces. Most (NOT ALL) people approach information the media produces without any discretion at all. People don't do any research or homework anymore..which is also a bunch of crap. This video is a prime example of how MEDIA in whatever form is very controlling whether democrat, republican, or third party. I would say the same thing if mccain had won and they made a video about how uneducated republicans are. I guess that is the blessing of our country..."freedom of speech."
Originally posted by jsobecky
reply to post by LittlePinky82
Originally posted by LittlePinky82
And the last time I checked Obama isn't a liberal but quite moderate at least in his policies and decisions he makes.
Yeah, he's a moderate alright!
Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was the most liberal senator in 2007, according to National Journal's 27th annual vote ratings. The insurgent presidential candidate shifted further to the left last year in the run-up to the primaries, after ranking as the 16th- and 10th-most-liberal during his first two years in the Senate.
nj.nationaljournal.com...
And conservative politics works? Look at the last eight years. How's that been for most people in the country? Look at where we are now and what's going on with economics here. Get real. Neither is a solution. The only true solution is to get rid of capitalism period. Just ask people in Latin America.
Yeah, sure, let's turn communist or socialist! Just look at Latin America - they're a great success! That's why so many of them end up as illegal immigrants in our country!
Now I understand your username!
Originally posted by Spectre0o0
ALL THESE DEMOCRATIC REPLIES MEAN,is that education does not help in making sound decisions. the people who are stating their negative opinions about barak,SIMPLY DON'T LIKE OR TRUST HIM. SO AS SOUTHERN GUARDIAN SAID,"GET USED TO IT." and he did prey on the vote from the poor and uneducated. he lied at every oppurtunity. please don't try to refute that ,it really makes you look uninformed.
Originally posted by fleabit
I'm fairly certain if you were to ask the same set of questions to 100,000 Obama and McCain supporters, you'd have near-identical %'s of folks who do know what they are talking about, that have some idea but are not 100% sure, and that are utterly clueless.
I don't even know the point of this drill. Since it was one-sided, I can only guess it's sour-grapes by those who made it.
Originally posted by schiass
People still believe that we really have a choice? This all predetermined to give the idea of freedom. I found it odd that the republicans gave us 2 terrible representatives from their party. I almost think it was handicapped from the start.
If anyone believes we still have a choice after back to back Bush wins is blind. They are playing the public like a fiddle. One day we are going to just accept anything because we have become jellyfish.
Originally posted by LittlePinky82
OMG this poll is so stupid. They only surveyed 512 Obama supporters nation wide. When I took American government a term ago my professor mentioned how you have to have at least 1,000 people in a nation poll like this for it to be even close to accurate. The fact this survey only has 512 people shows nothing except with these 512 people.
Originally posted by DCPatriot
Originally posted by LittlePinky82
OMG this poll is so stupid. They only surveyed 512 Obama supporters nation wide. When I took American government a term ago my professor mentioned how you have to have at least 1,000 people in a nation poll like this for it to be even close to accurate. The fact this survey only has 512 people shows nothing except with these 512 people.
The poll is NOT stupid.
Obama's 8 million vote majority margin is where this poll comes into play.
Among the millions of Obama voters, I can readily agree that if not for the morons who certainly comprise that 8 million figure....McCain would be taking the oath on January 20th, and not Barack Obama.
And if you don't think the TYPICAL Obama voter is uneducated and not politically savvy, then somebody may have to include more into that 8 million voter group.
Originally posted by ravenshadow13
Originally posted by Spectre0o0
ALL THESE DEMOCRATIC REPLIES MEAN,is that education does not help in making sound decisions. the people who are stating their negative opinions about barak,SIMPLY DON'T LIKE OR TRUST HIM. SO AS SOUTHERN GUARDIAN SAID,"GET USED TO IT." and he did prey on the vote from the poor and uneducated. he lied at every oppurtunity. please don't try to refute that ,it really makes you look uninformed.
Thought #1- Why do the majority of Conservatives who think that they know everything use poor grammar. I think that this means you are the uneducated ones. You should also learn to spell Barack and opportunity correctly... I mean, even my laptop has an automatic spell check.
Thought #2- Well, I do also consider myself a Communist. However, I don't support what Castro is doing, or what happened with Russia, or what happens with 100% of Communist countries. I believe in the Communist ideology but I have come to terms with the fact that in reality it can't work because people are too greedy and some people are too lazy. However, in the fantasy world that I would like to believe is true in my head, a country would be perfect if everybody had an opportunity, every mouth was fed, nobody was homeless, and we worked with and for one another.
But then again, people suck, and it can never happen. I don't go around waving Communist flags and I'm not an official member of the Young Communist Associations because they ask for money (ironic... but the money doesn't actually go to help anyone other then themselves) and I don't sing Russian songs and whatnot.
I think, however, that most Communists did vote for Obama because he wanted to give more to the people and take less from the big guys that have their oh-so-important jobs that pay for the private jets or the trailers or the guys who want their rifles by their side and the Christians that think it's okay to press their beliefs about marriage, sex, etc (homosexuality, abortion, abstinence only education) onto others.
I really hate you guys who are like that. I really do. You are so closed minded and horrible and I wish you would realize the key- you're not helping anybody but yourself.
Originally posted by LittlePinky82
Wow you're a communist too? Nice to see I'm not a lone here. Yes some things Fidel does aren't so great like not having the opportunity for average people to have computers and phones. That's kinda silly. Even though I can understand it I wouldn't go that route. I think Raul is going to do a better job. One of the first things he did as new president (he was Fidel's VP) was to over turn that law.
And yes one of my pet peeves is whenever people find out you're communist they always ask why do you like Stalin and things like that. Stalin also tortured fellow comrades who challenged him and said when he was wrong in doing something. They were the first he imprisoned and tortured. Even in Cuba communist's challenge each other all the time in elections and whatnot. Some of Castro's harshest critics are people in Cuba who are supportive of him. And yes I voted for Obama because he was the least insane and he would do a better job. There's so many issues to vote on this election whether with the Constitution, jobs and economy, education, foreign issues. One issue voters are annoying to me no matter what side of the isle you're on.