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posted on Nov, 21 2008 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by fatdad
in the UK its nearly impossible to be a white male...


Really? The white population is 90% and the white birth rate is one of the strongest in Western Europe. So, tell me, how did you conclude it is impossible to be white in a nation with a white majority


The premise in your argument is flawed.



posted on Nov, 21 2008 @ 01:10 PM
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I'm not saying the native British people did nothing and immigrants came and...."shazam" we have a great country... not at all.

I am fully aware of our British history and how and what the Brits have endured and inflicted from and on other peoples and nations over time.
And how, relatively speaking, the immigration issue is a new one.. however, whether it be the rich elite or whoever that brings people over as cheap labour and treats them as second class citizens or invades and conquers their country and steals all the resources for their own empire/regime/leader whatever.....then they should probably deal with the consequences and be opening and welcoming.

I don't think we should have open borders and like most countries, Think we should limit the numbers and put our citizens first.

But unlike the BNP and other racist groups, i do NOT believe we should end all foreign aid and stop immigration all together and generally become some kind of hermit-like country that goes back to the us-and-them.... johnny-foreigner mentality.

To even talk about race in a "political party" is just disgusting and having visited sites and had leaflets from some of these parties and groups....and it's not as blatant as it used to be, but it is still disgustingly racist.... if somewhat subtle.



posted on Nov, 21 2008 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by infinite

Originally posted by fatdad
in the UK its nearly impossible to be a white male...


Really? The white population is 90% and the white birth rate is one of the strongest in Western Europe. So, tell me, how did you conclude it is impossible to be white in a nation with a white majority


The premise in your argument is flawed.
i mean your not allowed to be a British male.. if you support your country \troops \ culture your seen as racist ... even some councils are going to stop males walking in parks and ask them what there doing.. dads cant take pictures of the own children without being questioned... then you have the police recruiting more coloured people to balance the force ... i could go on and on...



posted on Nov, 21 2008 @ 01:35 PM
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i should also mention the BLACK POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION .. if we had a white police officers association there would be calls of racism , but when its blacks getting together its ok.. in my town the polish and Ukrainians are beating the sh.t out of each other.. the blacks and Asians are beating the living daylights out each other.. most young British males are attacked by republican catholics \ immigrants .. its a nightmare....



posted on Nov, 21 2008 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by infinite
Really? The white population is 90% and the white birth rate is one of the strongest in Western Europe. So, tell me, how did you conclude it is impossible to be white in a nation with a white majority


The premise in your argument is flawed.

Are you sure about that? Last year births to foreign mothers made up 21.9% of all birth rates, meaning immigrants are reproducing more than twice as quickly as Brits (source). I'm fairly sure the white birth rate is famously low.

As for your other point, the very fact that white males are undermined despite being the vast majority says it all doesn't it. It'd be no surprise if white Brits made up 8% of the nation would it? This is what's so strange about it. Being in the majority is no longer reflected in terms of opportunities and rights. We've gone so far towards political correctness that we've emerged from the other side in a state of imbalance, in favour of immigrants.



posted on Nov, 21 2008 @ 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by fatdad
most young British males are attacked by republican catholics \ immigrants .. its a nightmare....


i cant recall ever being attacked by a republican or an immigrant...infact where i live the nicest people in the area are the polish.

anyway i'm a young white british male and i havent got a clue what your on about.



posted on Nov, 21 2008 @ 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by antuk

Originally posted by fatdad
most young British males are attacked by republican catholics \ immigrants .. its a nightmare....


i cant recall ever being attacked by a republican or an immigrant...infact where i live the nicest people in the area are the polish.

anyway i'm a young white british male and i havent got a clue what your on about.
well im happy for you and hope you stay safe...



posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 02:52 AM
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Originally posted by masonwatcher

Fatdad, you utter the long standing complaints of the working man and you mistake political correctness as the cause. In reality the greatest oppressors of the working classes are not woman and ethnic minorities but vested institutions with immense wealth and taxation mad governments.

What has caused a near world wide depression, the Asian shop keeper down the road or rapacious bankers speculating on our future?


I'll add to that regarding immigrants generally. Even if they've 'come over here, stealing our jobs, getting this that and the other', it's hardly their fault. The majority of them haven't broken any laws in doing so. If this is seen as wrong, then it's the actual system that's at fault.

If people are genuinely aggrieved with this (and it's nothing to do with racism per se) they're taking it out on the wrong people. Why set fire to an immigrant's house or attack them in the street? Why not torch a politician's house or attack them in the street?



posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 03:10 AM
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Originally posted by Cythraul

I'm sorry, but I find that offensive. Slavery and importation of labour (if they should be apologised for at all) were the constructs of the wealthy upper-class. The vast majority of the British ancestry had absolutely nothing to do with that and THEY were the ones who mined the hills, died defending our green isle, and developed the heritage of Britain. THEY are the ones whom embody Britain's true sprit. A very small amount of credit is due to immigrants. Generally speaking, the wealth and culture of this nation was built by indigenous white British people.


Just to confuse people further, I agree with this completely. You only have to have a cursory knowledge of British history over the 18th and 19th C. to see this is true.

Even the idea of 'trickle down' benefit from the slave trade, where money would be invested into things that the British benefit or take advantage of today is a bit misleading because it's not as if the white native-born British somehow benefit from this more than say a third generation pakistani, or a Jamaican who came to Britain in the 1950s.

That's one of the issues I have with the idea of restitution in this country. The idea that people now should be paying or perhaps even apologising* for what their great-great-great-grandfather might have done - despite the fact that the 99% of workers in the cotton industry in Britain were little more than slaves anyway - is almost surreal to me.

Let's fight the exploitation, the abuse and the discrimination that's happening today.


*How can I give a meaningful apology for something that someone else did the best part of 150 years ago?



posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 04:28 AM
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but it's ok for a paedophile to live in your street without being named...........
let's get this in context, what we are forgetting is that people in Britain have a right to vote for and support any political party that the individual sees fit, yet when it comes to the BNP, it's as though these people are the scourge of the earth. Before long, Britain will lose it's freedom of choice if we carry on like this. Remember, there are people on this list that are teachers, policemen, prison officers and the like. not low-life racist scum-bags, middle class people like me who have totally lost faith in British politics and what they stand for. I for one want to keep Britain British.

A disgruntled Doctor



posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 06:00 AM
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Exactly, I've questioned this too with friends and colleagues, some of whome are Black and find the idea equally as unpallatable.

There is also the MOBO awards. God forbid we should have a MOWO award....

Black History month/week whatever is another thing. If we want to celebrate indigineous British culture, it's shunned or outright banned. My local council has, instead of a Christmas festival like the good old days, a "Winter Festival" with hardly a hint that it's a Christmas celebration, even though the ethnic population of Wokingham is negligable.

Then there's the councils printing litterature in 50 different langauges (driving up the Council tax in the process) for the vast hordes that come here and don't bother to learn the langauge but are happy to go and claim their "benefits".

All the while, white people such as myself back in my poorer days (around 6 years ago) were told we were not entitled to anything and left to fend for ourselves.

That really irked me as I was sat there in the Council offices looking at a small tribe of Asians getting given housing benefit, council tax benefit, income support, child benefit etc. None of them could speak english and had to talk to an interpretor, hired at Tax payer expense.

Now, i am not a BNP member nor do i want to be, but I do agree with some of their points.

I also think that in a country were you are supposed to have political freedom it is digusting the way the BNP are treated and the way their members are villified.

Give them an even playing field and let them suceed or fail on their own merits. Or is the establishment scared of them because they actually stike a cord with alot of voters?

Anyone on here calling them scum and saying they should be deported or, shockingly enough, killed while at the same time calling the BNP facists is a massive hypocrite and should seriously STFU.



posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 06:37 AM
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Originally posted by JasonT
But yeah, all extremists should be rounded up, put on an island and nuked to death for the benefit of humanity.


That statement sounds a bit "extremist" to me. I would be interested in learning your definition of an extremist.



posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by fatdad
.....most young British males are attacked by republican catholics \ ......


Whilst I have agreed or sympathise all that you have posted could you please explain this....I don't know of any attacks by 'Catholics'.

Approximately 4million Catholics lived in the UK at the last census, 2001, (this figure is steadily rising due to immigration levels from Eastern Europe).
The vast majority of these are indiginous, white people whose families have lived here for literally hundreds of years.

Catholics are the largest minority in this country and are probably the least vociforous, preferring to be regarded as just normal, everyday Brits, which they are.
Unfortunately they are the only minority who are legally discriminated against.

Apologies if slightly off thread, just wanted to clear some things up.



posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 08:28 AM
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Originally posted by Freeborn
Catholics are the largest minority in this country and are probably the least vociforous, preferring to be regarded as just normal, everyday Brits, which they are.
Unfortunately they are the only minority who are legally discriminated against.



Whilst I share you same bemusement over the whole "catholics attacking" premise, I do wish to state that the only descrimination Catholics suffer is that they cannot become King/Queen. They suffer no other discrimination, legally.

In that vein, I cannot be monarch and I am an atheist. Would you say Atheists are discriminated against as well just because the option of being monarch isn't open to us? One could argue that everyone in the country is practically discriminated against as regardless of religion as, truth be told, none of us stand any chance of becoming King/Queen.

As you know, being Monarch is decided by birth and the chances of bedding an heir to the throne and marrying them is somewhat limited. So, stating they are the only minority "legally discriminated against" because they cannot be King/Queen is somewhat misleading.

EDIT: One could also argue that Jews and Muslims etc are also precluded from being Monarch, as the job entails being the Head of the Church of England, something only a Protestant can do.

[edit on 22/11/08 by stumason]



posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 10:53 AM
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i live in n.ireland which as you know is a part of the uk and to show openly your support for the queen\ troops etc openly in some area would put your life in danger from republican catholics ... republican catholics are hardline anti British and should not be compared to your ordinary catholic....



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 12:38 PM
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I attend scooter rallies also, I am a skinhead, and proud. True skinheads arn't racist as, like you said, it is traditionally black music, and culture.



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