Halt Israeli Nuclear program

reply to post by ergoli


WOW!!! what planet are you on.... the iranian president not to long ago stated he wanted to wipe the (jews) israel of the face of the earth... why is it that you believe that they have no right to protect their property/home/country?????

reply to post by iismtivu


WOW

what planet are you on? drugs are really BAD


since the Iranina president never actually SAID anything about wiping `jews` (you know theres 250,000 living in iran right?) of the face of the earth


oh wait - you swallow for fox - salty huh.

so if not him then who was it? and he's far from the first to want to destroy jews....or are you one of those who think the death camps were just a figment of our imagination???? that some jews perposely tatooed numbers on their arms to perpetuate this lie??? do you think if iran or iraq or jordan or any other country would not use a nuclear wepon on the jews and israel if they had one???????

reply to post by iismtivu


Iran has the second largest jewish population in the middle east outside of israel; in tehran they have jew only hospitals , kosher shops and an MP in the government

so yes , with representation up the the highest level - they really want to kill all jews then huh;


or

maybe , like a good number of jews around the world , the zionists who are guiding israel on its own hell bent self destructive course should be reigned in - and according to those posters on ATS who live in israel - the people are voting out the extremists and voting in those who are alot more moderate and not wanting to nuke everything that moves.

and the same will happen in iran - the current president isn`t as popular as he thinks - and is up for election next year , so we could very well see a new man at the top in iarn ; not pro western but more moderate than the ultra conservative current president.


oh how similar the USA and Iran are - both have conservative leaders with strong views.....


but `wipe israel from the face of the map` was never said ; what he actually said was ` remove the zionists from the page of time` - as the soviet union was removed in the same way - a strong and fundamental change and collapse that doesn`t mean the use of weapons.

reply to post by mrmonsoon


You got that right. Not only that most of the Muslim leaders have no concern whatsoever with regards to the death of their own people. After all their place is 'assured' in the afterlife. Just look at the rhetoric of Elmo in Iran. You get the feeling he can't wait to launch WWIII.

reply to post by ergoli


These five million "refugees" that aren't being allow to return to "their" home in fact, packed up and abandoned "their homeland."

And yes, they are not allowed back.

This has happened all through history. A people abandon their homes and land, and guess what? Some one else moves in!

If it had meant so much to them, they should have stayed. No, a lot of this is a put-up job by Muslim radicals. Their Qur'an requires them to destroy all Jews and Christians. It's just that more Jews are handy in Israel.

Had everyone in the area not attacked Israel in 1948, it may have been an entirely different situation. But no, the surrounding Muslim nations couldn't have any Jewish nation of Israel.

Too bad. Looks like they are there to stay.

reply to post by dooper

Their Qur'an requires them to destroy all Jews and Christians. It's just that more Jews are handy in Israel

thats completely wrong

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YUSUFALI: And remember We took your covenant and We raised above you (The towering height) of Mount (Sinai) : (Saying): "Hold firmly to what We have given you and bring (ever) to remembrance what is therein: Perchance ye may fear Allah."


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YUSUFALI: But ye turned back thereafter: Had it not been for the Grace and Mercy of Allah to you, ye had surely been among the lost.


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YUSUFALI: And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."


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YUSUFALI: So We made it an example to their own time and to their posterity, and a lesson to those who fear Allah

So first things to note, that these verses are reffering to the JEWS. It has nothing to do with Christians.

Secondly, as we also read, these verses were referring to a specific group of Jews who had sinned during the time of Moses.

Note that also verse 66 says that they WERE MADE AN EXAMPLE. So this just happened to a specific group of Jews, who had dis-obeyed God, so God gave them this harsh punishment, and made this punishment as an example.

So as we see, the verse was referring to a specific group of Jews at the time of Moses. NOT ALL Jews throughout history and up to the present. Such lies and distortions by Christians and Jews just expose their blatant ignorance. In fact what makes this funny is that Christians/Jews insult themselves, since they are the ones making the claim that the Quran calls them ALL swine and apes when it doesn’t, so it is the Christians/Jews who are calling themselves with such names! The irony!!!!


There are many things in the Qur`an - more so about how the Jews broke the sancitity of the sabbath , and how they were no longer human but monkeys and swine , for catching fish on the evening of the sabbath;


there is a huge misunderstanding between various religions - whether by edsign or by accident each takes small `snippets of each others `good book` and molds it as they see fit to mean , usually , something completely the opposite of its original meaning.


wars have started over this

First of all, you quote a group of recitations supposedly given to a non-prophet by a moon-god Allah.

"Allah's Apostle said, 'I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah." Muslim C9B1N31

"Do the bastards think that we are not their equal in fighting" We are men who think there is no shame in killing." Ishaq: 489

"He said, 'Fight them so that there is no more rebellion, and religion, all of it, is for Allah only. Allah must have no rivals." Ishaq: 324

"By Allah, I did not come to fight for nothing. I wanted a victory over Ta'if so that I might obtain a slave girl from them and make her pregnant." Tabari VIII: 130 (That's some kind of prophet.)

"The Jews of Quanuqa replied, 'Muhammed, do you think we are like your people? Do not be deluded by the fact that you met a people with no knowledge and you made good use of your opportunity." Tabari VII: 85/Ishaq 3:63

An ignorant people to be sure.

All prophets of God performed miracles to validate their message was one of God.

Not this prophet.

His "angel" came to him in darkness, in a cave, and even his own followers knew he was delusional.

No matter. Today, this destructive ignorance is being followed, the reason that we call these terrorists "Islamic fundamentalists" is because they follow Islam to the letter.

You failed to mention that the violent ninth sura - including the verses of the sword, abrogates no fewer than 124 more peaceful and tolerant verses of the Qur'an, according to Islamic theologians.

"And when We exchange a verse in place of another verse - and Allah knows very well what He is sending down - they say, 'Thou art a mere forger!' Nay, but the most of them have no knowledge."

"And for whatever verse we abrogate and cast into oblivion, We bring a better or the like of it, knowest thou not that Allah is powerful over everything? Sura 2:106

So you can take that snake oil down the road and try to sell it somewhere else.