Nothing in chemtrails... yeahhh riiiiight...Photos

reply to post by Witness2008


Based on hearsay. Nothing but hearsay. He's adding 2 plus 2 but getting eleventy bajillion. He clearly doesn't check his sources - he's no journalist.

reply to post by dave420


Actually HARRP is a planet threatening Naval Intelligence brain child. Really... do you think we are big enough as a human race to mess with the ionosphere?

Originally posted by dave420
reply to post by Witness2008

 

He clearly doesn't check his sources - he's no journalist.

Dave it's 2008, that what journalist are nowadays.

So if the government administered an agent through the water, the EPA wouldn't be able to find it, rendering your argument moot.

reply to post by dave420



As far as I know Flouride is the only chemical they add to water, which effects the neurological connection in the brain dealing with reason and creativity especially in small children. Same thing with the murcury in forced vaccinations. Do you drink a lot of city water?

So you think something strange is going on, but you've not seen anything or know what it is. May I ask why you think that, and what your evidence is? Because that seems rather funny

That was really stupid. There is plenty of evidense to show that something is going on. Morgellons, high rates of autism a levels never seen before, younger and younger people getting cancer and dying before they are 40. Extremely dangerous levels of metal and barium in the air, collected from air samples, not collected on the ground.

What do you have to explain these things. Quit flaming me and if you are not into this Conspiracy, why comment on the thread? It really makes no more sense than the question you presented.

reply to post by dave420


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Agent dave420 You must come home now.
You are taking on to many disinfo subjects.
Come home fast before you are discovered.
Bring Agent Meteorologist with you,

reply to post by Witness2008


It messes with the ionosphere a lot less than the sun does. HAARP has very weak transmitters, and does practically squat all to anything not directly above it.

Please read this article to actually understand what HAARP is, and more importantly, what it is not.

reply to post by anotherdad


I wish you weren't joking! Even compared to the usual idiot journalists one finds in actual newspapers, that guy is ridiculous.

reply to post by dave420


What credentials do you boast that enable you to judge what kind of journalist Thomas is?

[edit on 14-11-2008 by Witness2008]

reply to post by arizonascott


I asked for evidence, not for you to repeat what you just wrote

And correlation is not the same as causation - can you actually find research linking any of these things? It seems you have a bunch of conspiracy theories that exist without any evidence, and which are attached to each other for no apparent reason. If what you say about pollution levels, autism levels, cancer, etc., is true, that doesn't prove anything. It might just be pollution from industry, something that we know all too much about. It might be anything. Why you're leaping to the conclusion it's some shadowy government scheme, without any evidence, is beyond me. It definitely is not the rational thing to do.

You've not cited a single reputable source in this entire discussion. You are not arguing from objectivity, but from something far different.

reply to post by headlightone


I'm arguing facts. I can't help it if these folks don't have any for their side of the argument. It's not disinfo, it's info that you happen to not want to hear. Please start denying ignorance - not doing so makes ATS look bad.

I may need to correct myself on my calculations....

I had the molecular weight of barium at 3.51.

Which is incorrect! that is it's density, my bad.

New Calculations with correct weight:

The molecular weight of barium is 137.33. The fatal dose of barium is 50mg/m3, convert to the units of ppm by multiplying 24.45 x 50 mg/m3 ÷ 137.33 = 8.90ppm.

Which is 8900 Parts Per Billion. Compared to the graph which is 550,000 Part Per Billion

Here's the graph again:





Now there really is something wrong with that graph!!


At least I'm big enough to admit a mistake (even one that further reinforces my argument )

reply to post by Witness2008


I can read. I know what HAARP is, and this guy says it is something different. It's that simple. Just as if he started the article by saying "All fish are made of plastic and come from the moon", it's probably a safe bet the rest of the article will be just as factually accurate. The only credentials one needs to see that this guy is a joke is the ability to read and be objective.

reply to post by Chadwickus


you're telling me that the dodgy chart found on a "chemtrail" truther's site is factually inaccurate? No way!

Will wonders never cease?

reply to post by Chadwickus


Shoot! so your telling me all of Phoenix? is dead or died. Why is the goverment covering it up. Surely someone would notice an entire major city dying. I guess i've been brainwashed.

reply to post by anotherdad


Yes! You are now under the control of the NWO communist reptilian-overlords! Their nefarious, overly-complicated, theatre performance of a conspiracy worked! They killed Phoenix, and brainwashed you to do their bidding!

Or something There's just as much evidence for that as there is for "chemtrails". hehehe

Why the hell has the subject gone to HAARP and Floride?

I thought it was about how chemtrails have barium in them? Which I've totally BUNKED!!! So star my work ferchrissakes!!






PS. It's 6am here and I haven't slept yet.....

Again, I ask a simple thing of those who claim this is a real phenomana: why aren't these chemicals found in the water and in the soil on a regular basis?

If everything is sprayed as much as you say it is, it would have to be present. And it isn't. Could you explain this please? Perhaps I am missing some crucial bit of chemtrail lore that makes it clear why chemicals sprayed enmasse are not found in water nor soil samples.

reply to post by dave420


Skeptoid? So who is Brian Dunning? I also noticed that the article was given the stamp of approval by the Air Force. How was referring me to something propogated by military on military operations suppose to comfort my inquiring mind? I get it!! I am expected to sit back and let the experts spoon feed me their little fables. Are you an expert in any field what so ever?

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reply to post by anotherdad


Yep it looks that way fellas! It would seem those graphs are a load of crap, maybe I should send the info I found over to Rense.com.

Reckon they'd like that?

reply to post by Chadwickus


So Dave do i have to go to work? or now that i know do i share my knowledge of tree leaf mind control. (Ya right they turn colors in the fall naturally).

Good work Chad, stared. And yes send to rense, they will be happy to know the problem was solved.