Gay rights protesters disrupt Sunday service

Kind of like those Christians who disturbed an "Outfest" celebration in 2004? Remember when the Christians on this site were complaining those protesters had every right to disturb the gay celebration, even though they were legally forced to leave because of their actions?

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[edit on 12-11-2008 by rapinbatsisaltherage]

reply to post by rapinbatsisaltherage


What actions? Protesting at a protest?
The line drawn is these protestors went into PRIVATE PROPERTY and threw things at people like apes! or demoniacs.

The Christians at the protest you're talking about, simply protested right?
This is sort-of like the Kansas church who protested funerals, YET, EVEN THEY stayed outside!

reply to post by Clearskies

simply protested right?

I thought they were thrown out because of harassment, and their case against the supposed injustice was thrown out of court?

I knew people like you who defended those Christians would show up in this thread putting down these homosexuals, you all want to have it both ways, admit it; you don’t give a damn if religious people show up at pro-gay protest or celebrations and disrupt things.

reply to post by rapinbatsisaltherage


They were charged with 'Harassment', because, although they were on public property, they COULDN'T get a permit and decided to go anyway.
Protest, counter-protest, seems the American way. But, going to someone's church
and DISRESPECTING JESUS(calling Him gay), DISRESPECTING FAMILIES, the people and children, while throwing fliers at people?????

Tell them to go back to the zoo, until, they can come back as a human.

reply to post by Clearskies

They were charged with 'Harassment', because, although they were on public property, they COULDN'T get a permit and decided to go anyway.

You don’t have any idea why they were forced to leave. Admit it; you are siding with them because they are Christians, so why should anyone take what you say about these gays seriously? I bet if this was a bunch of right wing Christians disrupting a mass at am extremely gay friendly church, calling homosexuals nasty things and throwing stuff you may not condone it, but you wouldn’t be trying to demonize them. Yeah, what these people did was stupid, if you can’t agree that Christians who show up to gay pride parades and harass gays and disrupt the happiness and fun that is none of their business are being just as childish and intolerant then there’s no need to take anything you say about this issue seriously.



[edit on 12-11-2008 by rapinbatsisaltherage]

When you start these threads, you know precisely what you're doing. By creating a thread to highlight the callous behavior of a few members of a minority group, a group that is currently being persecuted, you will only ferment the passionate outrage their existence inspires. You know very well that the ATSers who are in such opposition to gay marriage will be absolutely delighted by this new piece of evidence to cement their prejudices. It is infantile of you to post this with the knowledge that it will not improve ATS, open mature dialogue, or benefit the discourse between homosexuals and their opponents. This thread only makes matters worse, and you knew that when you created it. Quit with this rubbish.

The behavior of these protesters is not somehow indicative of the entire homosexual population in America, but you would be absolutely daft not to realize that this is the lesson the anti-gay crowd will glean from your thread. It is only fuel for the fire.

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what i could never understand is why are their sexual proclivities so important to them that they feel the need to wave it in everyones face?

im hetro but i dont walk up and down the street saying im "im here, im not queer, get over it!" etc

what they want to do in the privacy of their own homes is entirely upto them i couldnt give a rats tail, but when they expect everyone else to make concessions for them because of their sexual orientation i think its weird and disturbing i thik same sex couples should be recognised as a legitamate form of lifestyle in regards to tax, insurance superannuation etc.

but i dont think they should be allowed to have kids, they made their decision they need to take responsibility for that decision and that is that 2 same sex people cannot conceive normally.

but having said that looking at the youth of today i think having kids should be a privallidge, not a right, some hetro couples just dont deserve kids either.

Originally posted by Merigold

"love your neighbour as your self"?

you forgot the most important part, "Dont get Caught"

sorry i have these moments when i just cant help posting silly stuff like that, sence of humour is now sealed and locked away.

Originally posted by Demandred
what i could never understand is why are their sexual proclivities so important to them that they feel the need to wave it in everyones face?

im hetro but i dont walk up and down the street saying im "im here, im not queer, get over it!" etc

Perhaps this has something to do with the fact that, as a heterosexual, your sexual orientation has not been discriminated against, while homosexuality has. It's just a guess (a longshot, I know).

when they expect everyone else to make concessions for them because of their sexual orientation i think its weird and disturbing

What "concessions" are they asking anyone to make? The gay rights movement isn't calling for special privileges, but rather for the very same privileges provided for heterosexuals. If you can point out a right they are collectively rallying for that you, as a heterosexual, will not be allowed to enjoy, I'd like to know.

but i dont think they should be allowed to have kids, they made their decision they need to take responsibility for that decision and that is that 2 same sex people cannot conceive normally.

I assume you are also vehemently against the adoption of children or selection of fertility treatments for heterosexuals who "cannot conceive normally". Right? Right?

[edit on 12/11/08 by paperplanes]

reply to post by paperplanes

Perhaps this has something to do with the fact that, as a heterosexual, your sexual orientation has not been discriminated against, while homosexuality has. It's just a guess (a longshot, I know).

Seriously. They do it for the same reason blacks “flaunted” their race when they protested, because they were being oppressed for being different for something they couldn’t control, that something is bound to be apart of the conversation while opposing the oppression.

Originally posted by nyk537
Exactly!

We also had the story about the gay protesters pushing an old woman down and stomping on her cross too.

Seems like they have a vendetta against those who don't agree with them, especially Christians.

Not exactly the best way to get your point across is it?

I was at an anti-prop 8 protest this weekend and we know that type of behavior is detrimental to the cause.

That's why I believe that people protesting in this manner must be planted by pro-prop 8 supporters just to "demonize" homosexuals.

reply to post by paperplanes

I dunno, I'm glad these threads pop up. I'm always curious to see how close the country is to self-destructing. All that asbestos clothing I have ready is too heavy to wear 24/7.

The behavior of these protesters is not somehow indicative of the entire homosexual population in America, but you would be absolutely daft not to realize that this is the lesson the anti-gay crowd will glean from your thread. It is only fuel for the fire.

Ah, herein lies the problem: despite any factual truth that these protesters' actions are not indicative of the entire group, their actions will be seen as such by the general populace. And every single report will harden the will of those who oppose the things they (and you) are trying to push. Only loud and continuous denial of their methods by the majority will set them apart from the majority. There is denial, as your post shows, but it is presently drowned out by those who would gladly see others denigrated as they claim to be and hate so much.

It is natural for someone oppressed to oppress back, but that does not mean it is right, or that it is appropriate. In this case we have the makings of a major feud, possibly a civil war, and my biggest concern is that it is now spilling across state lines. Where does it stop? Today protesters disrupt a peaceful church service (oh, and I have never been privy to one of those super-secret anti-gay meetings someone else mentioned. Maybe I should check with my preacher about this? ). Tomorrow, will someone from the other side get fed up enough to beat up an innocent gay man? The next day will someone vandalize a church? The day after, will someone die for simply being gay and in the wrong place at the right time? Will churches be burned? Will there be wholesale killing sprees by members of those churches?

Where will it stop?

I suggest everyone emotionally involved go home, sit down, and grab a good book on history. It has been said that those who do not learn from history are destined to repeat it. That appears to be true, and eras like this in history I would personally just as soon forego.

Then, once everyone (mostly) has calmed down, try protesting loudly and vigorously against any kind of injustice, even those that do not concern you. Treat others with the dignity you want so badly. That will win plenty of support, just as surely as the tactics we are now seeing will lose it.

Or just as surely that this voice, this post, alone will change nothing.

TheRedneck

Originally posted by nyk537
Well, well, well. It looks those gay rights protesters keep disrespecting the rights of others.

As I've said in another thread, it's quite ironic that they keep disrespecting others in order to gain respect for themselves.

Do you know what this really shows?

Do you know who 'They' really are?

Human.

These actions just reinforce this.

Both "sides" do stuff like this, because both sides are one side; human. Which is also the reason they deserve equal civil Rights.

Attributing these actions to all gays, opens a huge door for one to attribute the equivalent to all heterosexuals. Which you would not accept. You would find that to be intellectually offensive. And you should, because it is.

Human dude. The articles make a lot more sense if you look at it through lenses that are not divided by this whole 'us versus them' viewpoint.

[edit on 12-11-2008 by Lucid Lunacy]

Originally posted by TheRedneck

It is natural for someone oppressed to oppress back, but that does not mean it is right, or that it is appropriate. In this case we have the makings of a major feud, possibly a civil war, and my biggest concern is that it is now spilling across state lines. Where does it stop? Today protesters disrupt a peaceful church service (oh, and I have never been privy to one of those super-secret anti-gay meetings someone else mentioned. Maybe I should check with my preacher about this?

). Tomorrow, will someone from the other side get fed up enough to beat up an innocent gay man? The next day will someone vandalize a church? The day after, will someone die for simply being gay and in the wrong place at the right time? Will churches be burned? Will there be wholesale killing sprees by members of those churches?

Where will it stop?

This is certainly a fear of mine--it must be for any observer of current events in America. We seem to be moving ever closer to a furious climax of civil unrest. The election of a black man has infuriated a great many Americans, and these progressive changes do not seem to be slowing down. America is changing without full consent. There are millions who will not abide this all with stoicism and quiet.

I suggest everyone emotionally involved go home, sit down, and grab a good book on history. It has been said that those who do not learn from history are destined to repeat it. That appears to be true, and eras like this in history I would personally just as soon forego.

Then, once everyone (mostly) has calmed down, try protesting loudly and vigorously against any kind of injustice, even those that do not concern you. Treat others with the dignity you want so badly. That will win plenty of support, just as surely as the tactics we are now seeing will lose it.

Is this too pie-in-the-sky to ever come to fruition? I surely hope not, but that irksome rational side of me seems to think so.

Originally posted by nyk537

Well, well, well. It looks those gay rights protesters keep disrespecting the rights of others.

So they can call them fags, homos, ban their right to equal benefits that a heterosexual marriage shares, picket their funerals, discriminate in the most obvious of ways, and they can't fire back just a little bit?

Unfair? I think so.

Originally posted by nyk537
My apologies. I said it once and I simply "misremembered' the video itself.

Oh well.

I'm guessing the rest of the assault is OK then right?

Actually I think it more likely that you just hadn't watched it.

But hey, whateva

reply to post by jibeho


"Pink Panthers"
Man that's wrong on so many levels.
Kinda funny though.
Nope Nope. Very bad of you.....very bad indeed.

I'm afraid that all the in your face activism will cause a backlash. There may be enough radical christians to mobilize and force a constitutional amendment to the US Constitution locking in their idea of marriage. Slow and steady may win this race.

reply to post by badgerprints


I captured one of them.

And needless to say...they talked.

We now know who is behind this anti-Christian movement...

Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy I captured one of them.

And needless to say...they talked.

We now know who is behind this anti-Christian movement...

Too, too funny, right down to 'all your children...'

Dude, you've done it again. Star fo' you, bigtime!!