Georgia congressman warns of Obama dictatorship

He is establishing a motive for an attempted assassination by the right wing radical groups. The groups have specially trained government agenteurs as undercover not to stop the militias but to boost their memberships. They want a rebellion and civil war to justify martial law. Assassination of Obama or an good attempt will touch off a race war in a heartbeat. Obama is talking about the coal industry and a fine to bankrupt them, civilian security force, taking weapons, programs that have been established long ago before Obama was ever known.......all are motives to explain the assassination attempt or success yet to come. Something similiar was planned by the government in Septemer 1972 to assassinate Agnew at the Republican convention, to start the coup then. It was called off and Nixon was impeached for the watergate affair as a trade off...........



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People are worried about it because of the mandatory part and the 3 months of what amounts to boot camp part and the national defense part. None of which have anything to do with volunteering in your community.

Endorsement by republicans, democrats, independents, etc. does not make me feel any better about what is being proposed. Actually, it has the almost the opposite effect. Our political leaders are not well known for their concern about the average citizen, so why should we believe that they are thinking about anything more than their own agendas now?

And I agree, we have more government than we need and should be focusing on cutting back on our spending and fixing or ending the programs we already have. Not creating more programs to spend more money that we don't have.

Oh, and thank you for attempting to get this thread back on track. The last page or two has gone off on a Hitler tangent I think.

The same families and same organizations and the same "conspiracy" tht was also involved with Hitler as he was one of their attempts to this coming world government. The same families, in Wall Street funded Hitler when it was time to use him by the western conspirators. It is tied to this exact same conspiracy and has led us to Obama. This will be the fourth planned military coup of the US by the US government and British counterpart. This is the problem people aren't linking up the true story and true conspiracy. The links are irrefutable and are supported by historical records, congressional records and quotes and testimony.

Jenna, the Republican and Democratic party leaders and platforms are organized and controlled by the Counsel on Foreign Relations. Both parties have their "assigned roles" and are orchestrated by the CFR. I have the quotes, evidence and its irrefutable. The main objective on the high levels is to establish a one world government system and soon. It has been in the making since woodrow Wilson, and carried forth creating the wars and a wake of terror that has been planned in our own backyard.

Major goal...........a one world government finally............all has been set up and ready to go.

[edit on 20-11-2008 by tgambill]

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
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socialism and communism are basically the same.

Basically, you are correct. The fact that if you put 100 experts in a room and asked them to define the two, you would get 100 different answers, tells us all we need to know. They are indistinguishable from each other.

Socialism and Communism is the same because the USSR(Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) called themselves so? Are you that brainwashed by local and foreign propaganda that you can't tell the difference or is it simply a case of perpetuating a myth to suit a far-right agenda?!?!

Pick and choose your answer carefully because you can't have it BOTH WAYS!

No, socialism and Communism are the same. Provide me a reference that says otherwise. In fact, historical fact by the way, The word communism was being used back in 1850, and so was facism. As a matter of strategy, Albert Pike took a document written second hand and renamed by Clinton Roosevelt, called "The Science of Government Founded by Natural Law" , 1841 and passed it to Karl Marx personally to write the Communist Manifesto. At the same time, Albert Pike and other planners tasked Karl Ritter to write the anti-thesis to communism, and Facism was born. Karl Ritter later died and Frank Nicheche took over to finish his work. From this Facism was born and nazism evolved from. The major goal was to have these two idealogies integrated into the cultures of Russia and the rest of Europe in preparation for two world wars and a major revolution in Russia in the next century. Well, the Russian Revolution as financially supported by Wall Street from Lenin to the Bolsheviks, as Wall Street also funded Hitler [Prescott Bush, DuPonts, Rockefellers] to execute the pre-planned WWII.

By the way Clinton Roosevelt got his document from Mazzini [founder of the Mafia in the 1890's], who got it from Adam Weishaupt. This plan was completed from scratch by Weishaupt on May 1, 1776. The plans set the stage for the next 200+ years that would lead to WWIII and the New World Order. .............historical facts and if you want a thumbnail list of solid references I can provide.

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Socialism and Communism is the same because the USSR(Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) called themselves so? Are you that brainwashed by local and foreign propaganda that you can't tell the difference or is it simply a case of perpetuating a myth to suit a far-right agenda?!?!

If you are going to throw insults, then I will not respond. However, for the sake of other posters who may be interested, the USSR controlled virtually every aspect of the economy. Socialism controls virtually every aspect of the economy.

If you don't believe that the USSR was a socialist country, please go to Wikipedia and attempt to edit this:

The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) was a constitutionally socialist state that existed in Eurasia from 1922 to 1991.

en.wikipedia.org...

It is you that is throwing around false propaganda.

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Meh. Here's a list of common misconceptions about the whole thing:

Misconceptions, Confusions, and Conflicts Concerning Socialism, Communism, and Capitalism

All socialists are Communists

It might be more accurately said that all Communists are socialists. In the Communist vocabulary "socialism" is seen as the more general term which includes various political philosophies including Communism. Many Western European socialists during the Cold War were vehemently opposed to Soviet-style Communism, as are most socialists today. The term "socialism" is often used by advocates of mixed economies in which capitalism plays a substantial part, moderated by a government which regulates the economy to promote public welfare. Many social critics using socialist analysis do not clearly advocate any specific political or economic system.

And there are a ton more good misconceptions about the 3 systems. This happens to be the only real relevant one, but I recommend checking them out.

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good point, prof. nail on the head. You mean this..............

"When we use Ad Hominem, we attack the character of our adversary, therefore attempting to take attention off our adversary's basic argument because we don’t have a strong argument to combat it. This attack on their character attempts to replace our adversary’s actual arguments with attacks on the adversary’s personal character instead. This is done in politics all the time, and when you recognize it, you can be sure that the one who is using Ad Hominem has a weak position. An example of this would be, “How would you know anything about the truth, you are an atheist!"

www.selfgrowth.com...




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I don't care what wikipedia says. Socialism and Communism is NOT the same thing and further you should know that many wikipedias entries are either untrue or disputed.

Stop believing everything you see/hear/read. Use common sense and listen to people who know more than you. Some people(such as myself) have first hand experience of european socialism going back decades because we have lived there.

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Its really simple but some people have a hard time understanding.

Capitalism=free market

Socialism=government controlls heavy industry and critical infrastucture, everything else is private.

Communism=government controlls everything and the economy is 100% planned.


Conclusion: Socialism is a mixture of capitalism and communism!

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
We would have a coup d'etat and/or civil war before that ever happened.

Once President elect Obama is in office he'll see that the office of the President is not as powerful as people think it is. He will have to deal with bureaucrats who have worked in various agencies and departments from the last 40 to 30 years.

This is especially true of the military where you have senior brass who have served in the military since the late 1960s.

No civilian national security force will ever equal the power that military and the military industries wield.

I am sure that our military, the intelligence agencies and even the Secret Service would ensure there would be no dictatorship by anyone in the office of President.



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Yeah Mike is right... I for one am no Obama supporter, and I did not vote for him, I voted for David Petraeus. Anyways I think a Coup is the most likely scenario if his "civilian" security force that answers directly to him is started... I guess the idiot never knew that any branch under the executive branch's control is federal, and in no way civilian... Civilian is you, me, and the people who run this site... I am however going to be fair and will give him a chance... But I see in two years a whole different America. He does not know how to handle Russia, North Korea, and Iran... All of whom are in cohorts with one another and wont hesitate to use our weakness against us...

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Obama has Brzezinski as his Advisor. He is a Bilderberger, Trilateralist and Illuminati.......They have big plans for Obama.....the McCain and Palin partnership was designed to fail, because the voting has always been rigged and this time was no different. The only, ONLY goal is to set up the North American Union, AMERO and to join the World Order after the next false flag. This will be our fourth planned US military coup by the US government since 1933. Three have been planned since 1933 to 1972. All three failed for different reasons. All supported by credible sources, testimony, congressional hearings and under the carpet hiding not to make the history books. I have the details.

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Stop believing everything you see/hear/read. Use common sense and listen to people who know more than you.

I'm glad you're such an expert on everything. Why don't you just post a new thread and inform everyone on ATS that they don't need to read or listen or see anything any more, because all they have to do is take your word for everything, the "world expert".

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Socialism and Communism is NOT the same thing and further you should know that many wikipedias entries are either untrue or disputed.

I quoted Wikipedia because the way you post, you just seemed like a Wiki person, so instead here is a better source:
www.fdrs.org...

IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM?
Discover Why There's no Difference Between Communism and Socialism as Both are Enacted in America.

What's the difference between Communism and Socialism?

What a choice!

In our honest opinion, the similarities between Socialism and Communism are much more important than any differences.

When we did some reading in books and websites regarding this subject, it all started sounding like the adults speaking in a Charlie Brown episode - Blah, blah, blah, blah.

That might be funny except for the fact that these two political ideas have infiltrated the once wonderful land called America.
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM: WHAT DIFFERENCE?

There's not much difference between Communism and Socialism. They're essentially the same thing. Sure, we can talk about the minor differences like how Socialism has a dictatorship government while Communism is supposed to do away with central government and the ruling class.
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM: TROUBLE IN AMERICA

One thing Karl Marx seems to actually have been right about is that Socialism is a stepping stone on the way to achieving Communism. How can we say this? Because we've watched America go from its Franklin Roosevelt era of socialist programs in the 1930's to outright abolition of our basic rights in 2006.

In 2006, we live in an America where we've been stripped of the rights people gave their lives for over 200 years ago. It's a police state on its way (unless more people wake up and join the fight to return our Bill of Rights) to a military dictatorship.

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM: THEY SAID IT

Do you doubt this? Listen in to what these people say that they censor so it never blares into your living room on FOX News:

"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans."
- Bill Clinton had this to say in 1993 and George Dubya Bush made it true with his Military Commissions Act of 2006.

"The invisible Money Power is working to control and enslave mankind. It financed Communism, Fascism, Marxism, Zionism, Socialism. All of these are directed to making the United States a member of a World Government"
- American Mercury Magazine. 1957

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within."
- General Douglas MacArthur

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM: COMMUNIST MANIFESTO

Now that you know there's little difference between Communism and Socialism, let's look at seven of the ten Communist Manifesto points and consider how it all applies to America today:

* Abolition of property
* Heavy, progressive taxes
* Abolition of inheritance
* Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels
* Central banking
* State-controlled communication and transport
* State-controlled education of the children

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM: COMMUNISM IN AMERICA

Again, there's little difference between Communism and Socialism. Both are alive and well in today's America. Just look at the similarities between the above Communist Manifesto points and the reality we live with in America.

Research how much of your state land the government owns. Next, research land patents and find out how you don't even own the land you're paying a mortgage on! Which direction do your taxes keep going? Ever pay attention to the ridiculous inheritance tax this country uses to steal a dead person's wealth?

A central bank is already entrenched in the form of the Fed (Secrets of the Federal Reserve)

Our media is controlled by the state.

The Freemason education conspiracy is one that's designed to proliferate propaganda and teach our children a "doctored" history.

Any questions?

I'm sure you don't like that one any better. That's ok
Regardless of what you think, both Socialism and Communism deny the individuality of the human spirit. If you like socialism, fine, stay where you are, but don't tell America what to do.

There are still many of us here in the United States that will fight to the death to preserve our freedom, and I am proud to be one of many in my family that feels the same way.

ProfEmer, if you will allow me to indulge, you gave a great post and one that I can use in my research. Let me also add some here.

"When Mazzini died in 1872; Pike made another revolutionary leader named Adrian Lemmy; his successor. Lemmy, in turn, was succeeded by Lenin and Trotsky, then by Stalin. The revolutionary activities of all those men were financed by British, French, German, and American international bankers; all of them dominated by the House of Rothschild. We are supposed to believe that the international bankers of today, like the money-changers of Christ's day, are only the tools or agents of the great conspiracy, but actually they are the masterminds behind all the mass-communications media leading us into believing that communism is a movement of the so-called workers; the actual fact is that both British and American intelligence-officers have authentic documentary-evidence that international liberals, operating through their international banking houses; particularly the House of Rothschild, have financed both sides of every war and revolution since 1776.

"Those who today comprise the conspiracy (the CFR in the United States and the RIIA in Britain); direct our governments whom they hold in usury through such methods as the Federal Reserve System in America to fight wars, such as Vietnam (created by the United Nations), so as to further Pike's Illuminati plans to bring the world to that stage of the conspiracy when atheistic-communism and the whole of Christianity can be forced into an all-out third world war within each remaining nation as well as on an international basis scale

"The headquarters of the great conspiracy in the late 1700's was in Frankfurt, Germany where the House of Rothschild had been established by Mayar (or Mayer) Amschel who adopted the Rothschild name and linked together other international financiers who had literally sold their souls to the devil. After the Bavarian government's exposure in 1786; the conspirators moved their headquarters to Switzerland then to London. Since World War II (after Jacob Schiff, the Rothschild's boy in America died); the headquarters of the American branch has been in the Harold Pratt Building in New York City and the Rockefellers, originally proteges of Schiff, have taken over the manipulation of finances in America for the Illuminati.

"In the final phases of the conspiracy; the one-world government will consist of the king-dictator; the head of the United Nations, the CFR, and a few billionaires, economists, and scientists who have proved their devotion to the great conspiracy. All others are to be integrated into a vast conglomeration of mongrelized humanity; actually slaves. Now let me show you how our federal government and the American people have been sucked into the one-world take over plot of the Illuminati great conspiracy and always bear in mind, that the United Nations was created to become the housing for that one-world, so-called, liberal conspiracy. The real foundations of the plot of the takeover of the United States were laid during the period of our Civil War. Not that Weishaupt and the earlier masterminds had ever overlooked the new world, as I have previously indicated; Weishaupt had his agents planted over here as far back as the Revolutionary War.

During 1850 (Early 1850’s). The Illuminati held a secret meeting in New York which was addressed by a British Illuminist named Wright. Those in attendance were told that the Illuminati was organizing to unite the Nihilist and Atheist groups with all other subversive groups into an international group to be known as Communists. That was when the word: "communist" first came into being and it was intended to be the supreme weapon and scare word to terrify the whole world and drive the terrorized peoples into the Illuminati one-world scheme.

This scheme: "communism," was to be used to enable the Illuminati to foment future wars and revolutions. Clinton Roosevelt, a direct ancestor of Franklin Roosevelt; Horace Greeley; and Charles Dana; foremost newspaper publishers of that time were appointed to head a committee to raise funds for the new venture. Of course, most of the funds were provided by the Rothschilds and this fund was used to finance Karl Marx and Engels when they wrote "Das Kaptial" and the "Communist Manifesto" in Soho, England. And this clearly reveals that communism is not a so-called ideology, but a secret weapon; a bogy man word to serve the purpose of the Illuminati. He got the basis for the Communist Manifesto from Clinton Roosevelt, who rewrote the plan by Adam Weishaupt in 1776.

On August 15, 1871, well, now, can any thinking person doubt that the intrigue now going on in the near Middle and far East is designed to accomplish that satanic objective? Albert Pike himself foretold all this in a statement he made to Mazzini. Pike stated that after World War III is ended; those who will aspire to undisputed world domination will provoke the greatest social cataclysm the world has ever known. Quoting his [Albert Pike] own words taken from the letter he wrote to Mazzini and which letter is now catalogued in the British Museum in London, England; he said:

"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view. A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both ! conquered and exterminated at the same time."

This is the most amazing fact of this conspiracy and how far back it goes carried from father to son in specific elite families.

1917 - "Some one remarked that the best way to unite all the nations on this globe would be an attack from some other planet. In the face of such an alien enemy, people would respond with a sense of their unity of interest and purpose." John Dewey, New York

August 1927 - "If there are those who think we are to jump immediately into a new world order, actuated by complete understanding and brotherly love, they are doomed to disappointment. If we are ever to approach that time, it will be after patient and persistent effort of long duration. The present international situation of mistrust and fear can only be corrected by a formula of equal status, continuously applied, to every phase of international contacts, until the cobwebs of the old order are brushed out of the minds of the people of all lands." Dr. Augustus O. Thomas, president of the World Federation of Education Associations (August 1927), quoted in the book International Understanding: Agencies Educating for a New World (1931)

1928 - What benefits did I.G. Farben have to give the Nazi Party? Just to name a few, besides a laundry list of other war supplies, Zyklon B, the gas used by Auschwitz, Bitterfeld, Agfa, lduwigshafen, Buchenwald, Hoechst and a few others. These boys also produced Chlorine gas used during WWI. Remember Henry Ford. I found out that he merged his German assets with those of Farben. Quote: “Without the capital supplied by Wall Street, there would have been no I.G. Farben in the first place, and almost certainly no Adolf Hitler and WWII.” (Historian Anthony Sutton; “Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler”, 76 Press, Seal Beach, Ca. 1976; page 33).

NOTE: So, in short, the major source of Hitler’s financial power came from the chemical Cartel called I.G. Farben. The most interesting part of this little bit of trivia is that I.G. Farben had a little known source of its financial power: our very own, Wall Street.

1928 - The House hearings on the Stabilization of the Purchasing Power of the Dollar, revealed that the Federal Reserve Board had met with the heads of various European central banks at a secret luncheon in 1927 to plan what they believed may be a major crash.

Norman Thomas, in his book What Is Our Destiny? (1944)

"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism, but under the name of Liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day American will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened.”

Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist party.
[Two Worlds, Flick-Reedy Education Enterprises, Bensenville, IL 1966, p 90 & 152]

24 June 1944 – RT Honorable Oliver Lyttleton who was a member of Commerce in London during this time, made the following statement: “American provoked [the Japanese] to such an extent that the Japanese were forced to attack Pearl Harbor. It is a travesty of history to say that America was forced into the war.” [Eggeston, George T., Roosevelt, Churchhill and the World War II Opposition, Old Greenwich, CT. Devin-Adair Co. 1979, pp xii-xiii.]

Finally from the horses own mouth................

FDR himself set up the way we would be turned into a communist nation but the NEW DEAL failed as it should have. It was designed even after the Great Depression which they orchestrated in preparation for a planned military coup in 1933 as supported by actual testimony and a congressional hearing. The first of two more planned military coups in our history from 1933 to 1972.

March 4, 1939 - Quote from a report of the secret committee by President Roosevelt,;

“I am making no concessions to business, or for relief. I have a military machine sufficient to stop any organized revolt. I am putting MY PEOPLE ahead of all instruments. I’ll have had a full understanding with Chamberlain, and we will destroy this unemployed condition with a WAR, and a WAR only. To Hell with the American people, as far as a Democracy is concerned. It does not exist. It never did, and we will never let it happen that way. I am going to crush business, infest America with all the aliens possible, and in the last analysis, declare Martial Law, and confiscate everything I need for a true and forceful Dictatorship. My New Deal is a failure, and I know it, but no one else will tell me that I must discontinue my present activities, and program.” From the Secret Audience with the Military Appropriation Committee; The Ways and Means Committee; The Special War Finance Committee; and this copy was presented to me by mail through Senator Lundeen.” “The Red Fog Over America” by William Guy Carr, 1955.

In 1841 Clinton Roosevelt published in America “The Science of Government Founded on Natural Laws”, This was nothing more than a plagiarized version of the teachings of Professor Adam Weishaupt of Frankfort University, Germany, the renegade Jesuit priest who arranged for the agenteur of the Illuminati to infiltrate into French Freemasonary in 1776 so “The Secret Power” which directed the World Revolutionary Movement, and the Conspiracy of Satan, at that time could use Freemasonsary to further their secret plans and ambitious and at the same time cloak their diabolitical purpose.

The fact that FDR’s New Deal, his NRA, and other political policies and economic devices fitted perfectly into the “Long Range Plans”, of the Illuminati proved the continuity of the conspiracy from 1841 to 1945. It has been explained that Roosevelt made known his secret plans to establish a dictatorship in American in March 1939 when he gave a secret audience to some of his governments special committee. It has also been mentioned that Roosevelt was kept a virtual prisoner from after Yalta until his death presumably to prevent him telling the truth in the event his conscience troubled him when he realized that he was about to meet his maker.

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
I quoted Wikipedia because the way you post, you just seemed like a Wiki person, so instead here is a better source:
www.fdrs.org...

I think wikipedia is a bare-bones dictionary/encyclopedia. Its ok to get a brief synapsis about various topics you don't know but in no way is it complete or trustworthy.

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus

IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM?
Discover Why There's no Difference Between Communism and Socialism as Both are Enacted in America.

What's the difference between Communism and Socialism?

What a choice!

In our honest opinion, the similarities between Socialism and Communism are much more important than any differences.

When we did some reading in books and websites regarding this subject, it all started sounding like the adults speaking in a Charlie Brown episode - Blah, blah, blah, blah.

As I pointed out socialism is between capitalism and communism and as such can and should be classified as an entirely different system to the other two major eco-political systems.

You keep assuming its the same thing but its not. How many times do I have to point this out to you? In fact lets assume communism is 1 on the political scale and fascism is 10. Socialism would then be a 4 or 5!

Further each of these 3 basic eco-political systems can be modified to a great extent with the exception of communism and facism because both are totalitarian and authoritian systems.

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus

That might be funny except for the fact that these two political ideas have infiltrated the once wonderful land called America.
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM: WHAT DIFFERENCE?

There's not much difference between Communism and Socialism. They're essentially the same thing. Sure, we can talk about the minor differences like how Socialism has a dictatorship government while Communism is supposed to do away with central government and the ruling class.
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM: TROUBLE IN AMERICA

America doesn't have communism and it doesn't even have socialism. It has a free-market economy with minor(some would say none) governmental controls. Basically anything goes but unfortunately 90% of the loopholes are taylor-made towards the elite.

Sure we got some pseudo-socialism in the form of welfare, social security, medicare/medicaid, unemployment/disability, limited public transportation, a few public tv/radio stations....etc but virtually all of these systems are on the verge of collapse due to mismanagement and necessary funds being diverted elsewhere.

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus

One thing Karl Marx seems to actually have been right about is that Socialism is a stepping stone on the way to achieving Communism. How can we say this? Because we've watched America go from its Franklin Roosevelt era of socialist programs in the 1930's to outright abolition of our basic rights in 2006.

In 2006, we live in an America where we've been stripped of the rights people gave their lives for over 200 years ago. It's a police state on its way (unless more people wake up and join the fight to return our Bill of Rights) to a military dictatorship.

Unless more people wake up, america will turn into a police state because of the exaggerated al-queda threat. In essence I don't think we need to worry much about al-queda or the russians. They are not much of a threat at least in the short term.

We should be worried much more about preventing a fascist takeover and there is no better man to stop these traitors then Obama. Bush/Cheney made a complete mockery of the constitution and gave special interest groups all the money and influence they could ever ask for.

[edit on 21-11-2008 by EarthCitizen07]

There are 500,000 or more UN/Russian troops inside the US today. There are 800-1,000 FEMA concentration camps build by Haliburton inside the US now. Martial law is set up thanks to the all the presidents since Woodrow Wilson and the unsung traitor FDR [evidence is hard to find unless you look and we found it]. When the dominos stat falling with the next orchestrated incident, violence and food riots will happen, national guard, Foreign troops, Guardian Angels will be duputised when the president declares a national emergency and subsequent martial law. The John Warner National Defense Authorization Act, has effectively overridden the Constitution and the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 will be superceded. Fact! Gold will be confiscated and the gold at home banned as contraband. UN and foreign troops will come out of the woodwork. The Trilateral commission after the last government planned coup in Sept 1972 determined we as Americans had too many guns. One solution besides gun control was to bring foreign troops in to fire on American citizens with the governments blessing due to "white Al Qaeda" and "traitors". The FBI/CIA groups have undercover agents inside the militia's to form the revolution and incite violence instead of peace. Violence will justify the declaration of a national disaster and justify martial law. The FEMA trains will carry away the rebel rousers.......to an early execution in gas houses.....true plan.

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus

"The invisible Money Power is working to control and enslave mankind. It financed Communism, Fascism, Marxism, Zionism, Socialism. All of these are directed to making the United States a member of a World Government"
- American Mercury Magazine. 1957

Yeah but not the way you perceive it to be. By becoming wealthier they also aquire more influence so they benefit indirectly. They don't have to create problems, they merely exploit human weakness and profit from any conflict that arises. Its called opportunism!

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within."
- General Douglas MacArthur

Facism alarm bells ringing.......

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM: COMMUNIST MANIFESTO

Now that you know there's little difference between Communism and Socialism, let's look at seven of the ten Communist Manifesto points and consider how it all applies to America today:

* Abolition of property
* Heavy, progressive taxes
* Abolition of inheritance
* Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels
* Central banking
* State-controlled communication and transport
* State-controlled education of the children

None really apply and you should know that!

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus

A central bank is already entrenched in the form of the Fed (Secrets of the Federal Reserve)

Our media is controlled by the state.

The Freemason education conspiracy is one that's designed to proliferate propaganda and teach our children a "doctored" history.

Any questions?

I partially agree with the last point on free-masonic influence within our schools but this is true everywhere, not just in USA!

The rest of your points are bogus.

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
I'm sure you don't like that one any better. That's ok
Regardless of what you think, both Socialism and Communism deny the individuality of the human spirit. If you like socialism, fine, stay where you are, but don't tell America what to do.

Only communism and facism deny human individuality and as I have said before facism is the only possible threat. You might not like it because of your right tendencies but that is my opinion and I am entitled to it!

As for me not having a say in american politics because I live in europe thats ridiculous. Do you have any idea how many people are living overseas for one reason or another? We are all americans and where we choose to live(or have to live) is our bussiness, not yours!

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
There are still many of us here in the United States that will fight to the death to preserve our freedom, and I am proud to be one of many in my family that feels the same way.

I am glad to hear that, just make sure you fight the real enemy, not some make-believe bogey man.

[edit on 21-11-2008 by EarthCitizen07]