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socialism and communism are basically the same.
Historical research has provided the following facts to support the following report in summary. I'm going to tell a story that you won't hear in history courses and I'll challenge any college professor to the validity to it. In a summation for now, the design for communism/socialism in its infancy was completed on May 1, 1776 by Adam Weishaupt, former Jesuit Priest.
Quote: Weishaupt was a Jesuit Priest who was involved in "Illumination" or Witchcraft.
Not true, on both counts. As I had written before, in the notes to "Illuminati Conspiracy Part One: Exegesis on the Available Evidence" in 2005, "Weishaupt was indeed taught by the Jesuits, though he himself wasn't one of them. Many prominent thinkers - such as Voltaire, Descartes, and Diderot - were trained by Jesuits, but I've yet to see the same inaccuracy applied to them." Don't take my word for it, though. Feel free to consult real historians on the Bavarian Illuminati: René Le Forestier, Les Illuminés de Bavière et la franc-maçonnerie allemande (1914; PhD dissertation); Leopold Engel, Geschichte des Illuminaten-ordens (1906); Peggy Pawlowski, Der Beitrag Johann Adam Weishaupts zur Pädagogik des Illuminatismus (2004; PhD dissertation). Also, in addition to Peggy Pawlowski, see the work of the three living experts on the Illuminati: Dr. Hermann Schüttler, Reinhard Markner, and Dr. Monika Neugebauer-Wölk.
None of the foregoing historians repeat the falsehood that Weishaupt was a Jesuit; and neither do Barruel (1798) or Robison (1798), even Vernon Stauffer (1916). There's no need to argue the point further. The Illuminati contemporaries, and the later experts on the subject, are unanimous. They get it right that Weishaupt was only educated by the Jesuits, had never been one himself, and was in fact pathologically hostile toward the Jesuits or Jesuitism - anything to do with monasticism, religious absolutism, or "superstitious folly" and obscurantism. Before and after the suppression of the Society of Jesus in 1773, his quarrels with the Jesuit staff at the University of Ingolstadt were legendary. Another interesting fact - as opposed to the made up ones - is that the feeling was mutual. So much so, that the real persecuting hand behind the suppression of the Illuminati in Bavaria descended from the fanatic "ex"-Jesuit and court confessor, Ignaz Franck. The latter also happened to be the head of the Munich Circle of the Golden and Rosy Cross (Gold- und Rosenkreuzer) - thus the rumours of a joint Rosicrucian-Jesuit plot to destroy the Illuminati doesn't seem so far fetched.* The Rosicrucians at that time had adhered to a zealous type of mystical conservatism. Hence the basic dialectic of the Enlightenment was this: Philosophes + Freemasonry + Illuminati (opposing) Jesuits + the Church + Rosicrucians. Anything challenging this basic analysis - easily apprehended even to a newbie of 18th century European history - and you'd better come armed with incredibly persuasive evidence.
* More details can be found in my forthcoming book, Perfectibilists: The 18th Century Bavarian Order of the Illuminati; but if you'd like a head-start, consult René Le Forestier, Les Illuminés de Bavière et la Franc-Maçonnerie Allemande [Paris: 1914], Archè reprint, 2001; and Klaus Epstein, The Genesis of German Conservatism, Princeton University Press, 1966.
A Republican congressman from Georgia said Monday he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist or fascist dictatorship.
The Hyperbole of one crazy southern congressman has lead to a discussion the extent that has occured on this page alone? Detailing some sort of NWO'ish lineage between Hitler and today's New Age Movement?
Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
reply to post by HunkaHunka
Here is part of the OP:
A Republican congressman from Georgia said Monday he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist or fascist dictatorship.
Georgia Congressman accuses Obama of setting up Gestapo-like security force.
Gestapo was the secret police of Nazi Germany.
Obama is considered by many to be part of the NWO.
If you cannot see the connection, I don't know what more to say.