NEW: WTC7 and North Tower Collapse Video

Very nice find indeed!

Excellent footage just a shame there arnt any that clear of the Pentagon!

Originally posted by benoni
Explosions can be seen running down the side of WTC 7 before the collapse begins...the key word here being before......BEFORE.....

You are incorrect sir.

The video I posted does not contain the first 6- 9 seconds of the collapse.

This video however shows the first 11 seconds.

reply to post by benoni


Where are the "flashes"? Why isnt there a single eyewitness that distinctly heard series of detonations that would have gone with those flashes PRIOR TO COLLAPSE? it funny how we see "flashes" only after the building is already collapsing, not before. Do you even know how controlled demolitions work?
Any so called "proof of detonations" before the collapse all happen when the building is already collapsing, never before. and by the way, detonations of powerful charges are loud. VERY loud. Loud enough to be heard blocks and even miles away, especially in a crowded downtown area where the sound would have echoed all over the lower Manhattan area. But alas, nothing like this is every mentioned by anyone nor picked up on camera or audio.
This how flashes and sounds go in a real demo:
www.youtube.com...
www.youtube.com...
www.youtube.com...

here is WTC7
www.youtube.com...

reply to post by GenRadek


Ok you want to play games! You did “not” ask me the question, “YOU” ask SPreston!

Do you know why firefighters put a transit? I'll wait until you answer this simple question.

Now I ask you a question first Sir!

WTC7 was falling apart all day.

Really! And what part of WTC7 was falling all day?

Like you said in another thread you just wait and pounce!

Please show proof and sources of WTC7 falling all day?

Do not respond to me with a question “you” answer this one please.

[edit on 11/6/2008 by cashlink]

Explain then if all those explosive charges going off

1) why nobody heard them

2) why the windows on adjacent buildings, ie. World Financial Center,
Verizon and others were not shattered ?

WFC 3 - note impact damage Yet windows are intact



Verizon - again note impact damage from WTC 7 yet windows intact







My friends watched WTC 7 from up the block (have to find out exactly where) - heard orders being passed by radio warning everyone to keep
clear of WTC 7 . Spent the afternoon fighting the fire started by debris
and searching building for possible victims or stragglers.

Now Jowenko and Romero - both suffered from "BIDENITIS" , running
mouth without brain being engaged first.

Jowenko was shown things out of context. Notice in Video only can see
the top of the building. Only later after making fool of self was told it
was from World Trade Center and that building was on fire for almost
8 hours before collapse. Or that it collapsed same day not days later
aas he seems to believe.

Read translations of comments and his befuddled response - had no idea
what was going on. Said would send in 30-40 men, 20 with torches to
cut columns, Now 40 men running into building would attract attention
Also how would cut columns? Were covered up by walls and furniture

www.youtube.com...
v=k3DRhwRN06I&feature=related

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

Clear is assclown with no clue....

reply to post by benoni



Do not be fooled by these players in here “THEY” see the FLASHES!
They are picking on you if they cant see the flashes then they are really blind, however we know better.

reply to post by cashlink



the line of windows that were breaking... didn't break until at least 9 seconds AFTER the collapse started.

reply to post by cashlink


So you play this game now? You took a comment I posted for SPreston, and then demand I answer a question, without even attempting to answer the question I first posted. I asked it because it answers YOUR question immediately.
Just for fun, why in the world would firefighters put a surveyor transit on a 47 story building that is burning for 7 hours with a 20 story gash down the side?

Maybe this firefighter knows why! Let's ask him!
www.youtube.com...

Now if you bother to think and look, your question is already answered. I don't have to say it. Just add 1 + 1 and there you go.

reply to post by thedman


They heard “EXPLOSIONS” stop your lying stop you’re spinning of lies.

9/11 Firefighters: Bombs and
Explosions in the WTC


[Firefighter Louie] Cacchioli was called to testify privately [before the 9/11 Commission], but walked out on several members of the committee before they finished, feeling like he was being interrogated and cross-examined rather than simply allowed to tell the truth about what occurred in the north tower on 9/11. "My story was never mentioned in the final report [PDF download] and I felt like I was being put on trial in a court room," said Cacchioli. "I finally walked out. They were trying to twist my words and make the story fit only what they wanted to hear. All I wanted to do was tell the truth and when they wouldn't let me do that, I walked out. ... It was a disgrace to everyone, the victims and the family members who lost loved ones. I don't agree with the 9/11 Commission. The whole experience was terrible." [Arctic Beacon]

whatreallyhappened.com...



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[edit on 11/7/2008 by Hal9000]

Originally posted by thedman
My friends watched WTC 7 from up the block (have to find out exactly where) - heard orders being passed by radio warning everyone to keep
clear of WTC 7 . Spent the afternoon fighting the fire started by debris
and searching building for possible victims or stragglers.

Originally posted by thedman
my friends who were across the street in World Financial Center Buildings
fighting the fires?

thedman, can you untangle this mess that you've created?

You want us to believe that your friends were:
- watching WTC7 from up the block.
- across the street in the WFC buildings fighting fires.
- searching buildings all afternoon.

Yet you have to find out exactly where they were?

Check your facts (or your fiction) and come back to us when you've narrowed your three different stories down to one. None of what you posted validates itself.

[edit on 6-11-2008 by tezzajw]

reply to post by GenRadek

Now I ask you a question first Sir!


WTC7 was falling apart all day.

Really! And what part of WTC7 was falling all day?

Like you said in another thread you just wait and pounce!

Please show proof and sources of WTC7 falling all day?

Do not respond to me with a question “you” answer this one please.

You still have not answer my question.






[edit on 11/6/2008 by cashlink]

reply to post by GenRadek

Maybe this firefighter knows why! Let's ask him!

www.youtube.com...

Where your proof of a 20 story gash no photos?
What is this another loose change video?

Its so funny how you want us to believe in your phony videos, but you will not believe in our, go figure!

reply to post by cashlink


loL! Wow, no offence but you sure are dumb. I did answer it! Its right there in front you! I posted the video, and my question alone answers it. what more do you want? lol! Oh I get it, you don't like thinking for yourself, so you need everything spelled out for you? Well then, too bad. The answer is right there in front of you, all you have to do is look and think. But since you like playing these pointless little games, its no wonder you don't learn anything.

Once again, the answer is already there, use those things called brain cells and fire up the motor and figure it out.
I'll break it down:
1) the firefighter video
2) a surveyor transit (whats it used for?)
3) me saying WTC7 falling apart. (also could be better said FAILING all day)

Now then, if you are smart, these three things are the answer, figure out why and prove that not all truthers are dumb.

throatyoghurt.....

you said(sorry, still finding my way around here)..
"the line of windows that were breaking... didn't break until at least 9 seconds AFTER the collapse started. "


Are you watching the same fotage as the rest of us....my eyes saw the line of windows exploding outwards with great pressure before the collapse......

What 9 seconds ???
9 seconds after the charges were initiated the WTC7 lay in a pulverised heap....exploded windows et al......so yeah....

reply to post by ThroatYogurt

the line of windows that were breaking... didn't break until at least 9 seconds AFTER the collapse started.

TY, I have seen the videos for myself, my “opinion” is explosion brought down the building.

You cannot disprove demolition! Because it was not investigated.

reply to post by cashlink


No gash?
www.youtube.com...
www.youtube.com...

So I suppose Firefighter Boyle is lying as well?

A little north of Vesey I said, we’ll go down, let’s see what’s going on. A couple of the other officers and I were going to see what was going on. We were told to go to Greenwich and Vesey and see what’s going on. So we go there and on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn’t look good

(.........)

There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we’ll head back to the command post. We lost touch with him. I never saw him again that day.

Also some more nice photos from ground level showing a decent size hole towards the bottom
www.debunking911.com...

Oh look! I just gave you the answer again! Here is a hint. Read firefighter Hayden's account here: www.firehouse.com...
The answer is there, buddy! Just get off your rear and look.

reply to post by GenRadek

Now I ask you a question first Sir!


WTC7 was falling apart all day.

Really! And what part of WTC7 was falling all day?

Like you said in another thread you just wait and pounce!

Please show proof and sources of WTC7 falling all day?

Do not respond to me with a question “you” answer this one please.

You still have not answer my question.

No gash?
www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

Please show a video or a pictures of a 20 story gash?





[edit on 11/6/2008 by cashlink]

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[edit on 11-6-2008 by worldwatcher]

Originally posted by SPreston

Really ThroatYogurt, you should study a little more before you post nonsense and display your ignorance. Sophia Shafquat (aka Smallstorm) is one of yours. She is another of the Ministers of Disinformation employed by your side.

Study more? About loony tune truthers??

I am supposed to distinguish what ones are credible and what ones are not. Sweet Jesus on a Popsicle stick!

Look, you really want to start with Sophia Shafquat? True I don't study up on the lunacies of the mentally unstable leaders. The last I saw, Ms. Clinkity Clunk produced the 911 Mysteries video with Brad Waddell, and "Avatar" aka:

Avatar, LLC
PO Box 698
Cardiff CA 92007

Interesting, your buddy Craig Ranke pimps his "The North Side Flyover / CIT" videos with Avatar through a link on the 911 Mysteries page:

www.avatarproducts.com...

I'm curious if Craig would call them dis-info agents. That may reduce Craig's DVD sales.

What is also interesting is that this was a subject at your little Loose Change forum where you didn't mention anything over there regarding her being disinfo. (you didn't comment on that thread at all)

On a side note, ATS member Dominic aka Terrorcell chimed in:

Siegel seems to be extremely shady and extremely hungry for money if you ask me......

Here is what else your buddies over at LCF were saying after Clickity Clunk & Avatar got busted for doctoring Rick Siegel's video:

Rick Siegel is not one to be trusted. I have had personal dealings with him, as have many others. The guy is just shady.


Rick, if you are posting here again...Go pound sand!

Agent "Rick" is hardcore disinfo scum.

Rick Siegel is MOSSAD.

I don't think it's that big of a deal--she probably didn't like the original audio, I don't, and she edited in her own.

Not too many there were calling her Disinfo. Nor do the majority of truthers at this site.

She is very much like jthomas, Reheat, pinch, Ryan Mackey, beachnut, and yes you too ThroatYogurt; propagandists for the enemy. Didn't you recognize her? Rupert Murdock and Leland Lehrman and Jim Fetzer and Eric Hufschmid are major league proponents of the New World Order. They of course are just doing what enemy combatants do in any war; they are sowing lies and seeds of disinformation to disrupt the efforts of their sworn enemies. Yes ThroatYogurt, those sworn enemies of the NWO elitists are We the American People.

Wow Spreston... I am a propagandist for the enemy? Looks like I am a Lame Duck Propagandist..I'll be out of work in less than 80 days. Oh wait... the Loose Change Crowd said that Biden and Obama are part of "them " too huh?

Really, after reading this... All I could think was:



[edit on 11/6/0808 by ThroatYogurt]