Calling All Pisces - Can You Help Me?

Originally posted by AmethystWolf
Pisces here. Feb 22 as well. I feel that most of what I've read about Pisces holds true for me.

Hey, Feb 22 is my mom's birthday. I am a Pisces Rising which trumps all of you. I fit it to a tee. I like the site Astro.com for information on your chart. The Sun is only one planet in the puzzle. The Sun is only one factor in the personality, it is not the end all be all of Astrological explanations. And the energy is merely a potential, not a rule.

Originally posted by pavil
While I am a Fish as well, I really don't put any credence into the belief that most objects in the sky influence me the whole of my life based on where they were in the sky at the time of my birth. The only real objects in the sky to influence us here on Earth would be the Moon and Sun and those influences have nothing to do with what "house" they are in.

Sorry to burst your bubble. but the stars relative position to you on Earth have no impact on you. There is enough generalization in each horoscope for everyone to "find" something they can relate to.

For a test, I suggest you have someone cut out daily horoscopes for you without the Sign attached to them. I dare you to pick out the Pisces ones out of the bunch.

Horoscopes are to Astrology what personality tests in Cosmo Magazine are to Neuropsychology. If you believe the Moon and Sun influence us, why is it such a stretch to imagine they all do. Just as all atoms interact, and that there is no such thing as "matter" at the subatomic level, and that we are all connected at that level. (even to the universe) It is obvious you have never had your chart done, and I suggest you try that, real astrology, before you condemn it to generalizations in a newspaper. I am a humanitarian, idealistic, sensitive, perceptive Pisces, but I have other signs that make me tough. Mercury in Leo for example. Jupiter in Gemini for another.

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i am a pisces 22 feb 69
thats me all right

What's with Feb 22? Holy Moly that's bizarre. Being a Pisces, I am thinking something is up.....

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Pisces here. Description fits me perfectly. Especially the creative part.

Hope that's helpful to your research.

yep.. Pisces
1979 early March.
my dads Bday was a few before mine.. and my oldest sons Bday is a few before his.. our Bdays are all within a 7 day span..
My older sister was born in Mid-March..

I am also a Pisces, born March 18, 1977.

However, I do not believe in the supernatural, or superstitions. If someone can provide a scientifically sound mechanism and evidence for how the positions of the plantes at the time of your birth influences your life, then I will entertain the notion. Otherwise, IMO it's just a bunch of generalized hogwash that could be applied to anyone.

Originally posted by seagrass
If you believe the Moon and Sun influence us, why is it such a stretch to imagine they all do.

It's a proven fact that the gravity influence of the Moon effects things here on earth, especially the tidal influences. We are primarily made of water, it is not a stretch to think the moon influences us slightly. The Sun's gravitational influence is the only other object in the sky to have enough power to influence events here on Earth. The other planets barely register on the gravitational scale when you compare them to the Moon and Sun. The impact of other stars, given the immense distances involved, would result in hardly any variance in the gravitational pull of those objects on people on the earth based on their birth times.

All that being said, I don't think the position of the Sun and Moon have any meaningful determination of our personality or future.


If it were accurate, wouldn't the various astrology forms around the world would have the same results for people given the same celestial starting points and birth times? Is there only one true form of astrology?

Originally posted by pavil

Originally posted by seagrass
If you believe the Moon and Sun influence us, why is it such a stretch to imagine they all do.

It's a proven fact that the gravity influence of the Moon effects things here on earth, especially the tidal influences. We are primarily made of water, it is not a stretch to think the moon influences us slightly. The Sun's gravitational influence is the only other object in the sky to have enough power to influence events here on Earth. The other planets barely register on the gravitational scale when you compare them to the Moon and Sun. The impact of other stars, given the immense distances involved, would result in hardly any variance in the gravitational pull of those objects on people on the earth based on their birth times.

All that being said, I don't think the position of the Sun and Moon have any meaningful determination of our personality or future.


If it were accurate, wouldn't the various astrology forms around the world would have the same results for people given the same celestial starting points and birth times? Is there only one true form of astrology?

The thing is, there are no same celestial starting points in various birth times. The latitude, longitude, and time are all different for each birth. The Moon moves the fastest. The planets are all moving at different times, and speeds, and some moving retrograde. Only twins have the exact same planet combos, and even those degrees of difference in time can create differences in the charts. Especially concerning three degree orbs. But, no there are many forms and variations of Astrology chart types. The many Astrologer's interpretations of those charts are also involved. The oldest books, from the oldest records, are the most accurate imo. The more people who start interpreting in modern times the less accurate I believe. The only way you will know if astrology is accurate is to actually have your chart done by a professional. I never read horoscopes like you're describing. A true horoscope is done by looking at YOUR planets in YOUR chart to see what is aspecting for YOU.

I'm a Pisces too. Go figure. I don't put much weight into astrology as far as the influence of planets and stars afffecting our personalities. I think it may have some foundation in the time of year that we were conceived and born. Maybe the seasonal diet or light changes affect the mom and developing fetus. My most favourite and useful astrology site is Rob Brezny's Freewill Astrology.com:

www.freewillastrology.com...

The guy is a creative genius. One of my desert island websites.

I'm a Pisces, March 8, and most descriptions of Pisces describe me perfect except the "traditional" part where it usualy states that we are big on tradition and holidays... I've never fit that part. Definitely too damned emotional and empathic... "artist, writer, dreamer"..... oh yeah... that is me, always has been, always shall be.

I fit Pisces probably 95 percent of the time.

Rising Pisces here born the year of the Chinese Pig.

I know...Pig sounds negative but it really isn't.

Both the traits of a pisces and one born in the year of the pig fit me to a tee.

I've never been one to put much stock in things like astrology but, when it comes to the signs, I have to admit that, most people do have the traits attributed to their signs. I'm a pisces and the traits are almost 100% accurate with me. To add to the myth of the stars, I'm a total water rat. The majority of my vacations revolve around being at a beach, fishing and snorkelling/diving. I've been keeping fish for years.

Pisces thru and thru.

The wife is a pisces as well but she's an anomoly. Most of the traits associated with the sign are wrong for her. Go figure.

Yeah, I'm a pisces born on Jan 27th 1989 and I've always been pulled towards the mysterious and unexplained. I've always been a free spirit - I even tried not to fit in with everyone else during my foolish years of Junior High School. Thankfully I failed at conforming with the masses. Something inside me never let me change and always pulled me back to being myself, and that's one thing in my life I'm extremely grateful about.

In addition to that I seem to attract like minded people without too much effort. Some people, who would seem to be of the masses and materialistic, even tell me about strange things that happen to them (ghosts, lights in the sky etc.).

As far as my horoscope is concerned, 99% of the time it's spot on. It never ends to amaze me. I get my horoscope from here.

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Well said Seagrass!

Astrology is given so much discredit due to sun signs generalization and silly fortunetelling we are accustomed to read in magazines and newspapers-

But the truth is... that to make predictions for your life and give a very accurate description of your personality you need to look at your Birth Chart- which is unique for each of us!
(And PAVIL, all the planets in our solar system have an influence in us, some more and some less, but they are all important when reading a birth chart).

Of course people born under a certain sun sign will share some common characteristics- but they will all be modified according to the position of the other planet and signs in their charts.

Originally posted by plutoxgirl

(And PAVIL, all the planets in our solar system have an influence in us, some more and some less, but they are all important when reading a birth chart).

And your proof of this is.....you said so??? Please show me where in any measurable effect ie gravity, radiation ect.. that any planet shows up in a statistically meaningful way compared to the power the Moon and Sun have on us.

The only ones that would IMO would be Jupiter and Saturn, but even then compared to the proximity of the Moon and the Hugeness of the Sun, they are dwarfed in comparison. I'm sorry, but your proof is your belief, I will need hard evidence.

People who do Tarot readings and Cold readings do just as well as describing people as their Sign does.

And yes, I have had a detailed birth chart done way back when. Didn't convince me that it was valid.

5th March
Being a pisces I love all things unexplained, and like you I feel most descriptions of piscean traits are about 80% correct for me. I enjoyed reading all the posts thanx for this. Peacr

Pavil, you know there is no proof anyone can give you regarding Astrology. Is that your argument? There is no proof in possibilities. Our ancestor watched the skies and they saw coincidences. They watched and saw they could expect certain things to grow at certain times, they watched the weather. Then at some point they watched people. They noticed similarities in personality during certain planetary formations... and Astrology was born. You believe the Sun has radiation and the earth has gravity and that is where your theories lie? You can't see gravity and magnetics, yet you know they exist. They existed before you or anyone else here understood them. I will never try to convince you it has merit, and you will never convince me it doesn't.

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But you can measure the effects of magnetism and of gravity, you can't even detect the things you say effect each individual in completely different ways with astrology. Run two horoscopes for the same location and date but just change the time by 12 hours or so, do you mean to tell me that there is some meaningful way the planets really effect my whole life with those 12 hours of seperation? What if my birth actually took 16 hours to happen? Wouldn't the planets be working their magic on me the whole time? Why would only that one piece of time/space determine so much of my lifestyle?


I know I won't convince you, I'm not really trying. I am just showing and your are conceding that there is no physical proof of what astrology attempts to explain. You can have your belief, I have mine.