Window of Opportunity

Originally posted by mazzroth
reply to post by observer87

 

Ill save you the suspense mate...he stopped replying months back.

hehe well might be, but maybe he will read that at least. poor fella still be-lie-ves that white light is in charge. im just trying to bring him up to speed . he doesn't have to reply. and watching for his answers is not exactly on my top to do list.
maybe their precious DNA should have had a heaven auto update feature

Hidden Hand is just a stooge, either a fraud or a weak-kneed stooge for the gray alien alignment "intervention." The "service to others" is what they say to rationalize their mental masturbation like that above. The truth is, he's talking as though privy to the alien part of the abducting aliens' manipulated conflicts scheme. It's simply an alien form of imperialism by planet-killing slavers. Way down in (what would be) Hidden Hand's level are the most simple-minded primitives, the gofers of the alignment who literally indulge in the scheme. They're all cowards, afraid to be held responsible for mass crimes. The most wretched cowards, hiding and willing to kill children to toss ape sh#* from their cage in order to scare us.

None of them are religious, none believe in any god or lucifer. Aliens think in terms of universal mind/mindedness. But in the Verdant-gray case (Verdants are the aliens who met with Phillip Krapf and informed him that they run the gray alignment), the notion was corrupted millions of years ago by the greed and pigheaded planet-taking of the Verdants, an alien population who claim to be 500 trillion in number living on 246,000 planets. Read Krapf--the numbers tell the whole story.

Hidden Hand is just a minor mouse, a spineless prototype whose mind was ruined long ago. Aliens aren't "evil," but they can be cold-blooded and collectively acquisitive. No cataclysm will occur by 2010--that's 13 months from now. Instead, Hidden Hand's spiel is due to his fear that he and his cohorts may be killed if the powder keg goes off so soon. His/their dilemma is that of an alien colonizer from a galaxy 14 million light years away, Pulitzer Prize winner Krapf was told in 3 days of face-to-face meetings corroborated by a host of other humans who were contacted for the meetings. Aliens from our galaxy don't want the Verdants or grays here because they're ecological sabotage. They take too much and must be forced out for this planet to be healthy. We have many allies in the struggle.

In a book I wrote called Alien Mind, I list the names of families that, over years of communicated contacts with counter-posed aliens, were stated to be "direct operatives" of the gray alignment's abduction and breeding program here. THEY lead the sabotage. And who are they? Rothschilds, Biderman-DuPonts, Rockefeller, Bush Sr. was mentioned, Sauds (the child sex slaving royal family---none such have intact minds), some Dutch royals, Prince Phillip, Benjamin Netanyahu, a US Jewish family named Gold-something (appears to be Goldman), and some others. Fritz Thyssen, the German steel maker who first funded Hitler big-time, was also mentioned. Fit the bill?

They're the worst on this planet. If what I was told is true (see my book for much more detail--it's free on the web and was featured for 3 hours on Coast to Coast www.alienmindbook.org... ), those people are traitors to humankind. Aliens aren't innocents. Some originally went out seeking to expand and take too much, premised on Orwellian notions of domain and resource "need" that are merely specious rationalizations. How do I know? I've debated and criticized such aliens for years, and the whole process was guided and aided by counter-posed, critical aliens. I'm but one of many witnesses. Read Philip Corso, David Jacobs, John Mack, and others on the subject of the abduction/breeding program of the gray alignment.

I know this may sound strange to some readers. Read my book. It explains the science of aliens and how aliens communicate---you can begin on similar communications and remote sensing by mid-book if you're simply thoughtful. But be careful: alien colonizers are cold blooded and prone to black-outs of compassion and decent reasoning when they rationalize the mass crimes of their pet monsters on this planet. Blood may be spilled to right their wrongs, but it will be just blood--if it comes to that, the blood of tyrants. --G.L.

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what caused the great depression? ... ALL loans were called in an the government went broke... they can call in all loans it is technically THEIR money.. they loaned it ... go read before opening your mouth about things you know nothing about

Hidden Hand,
Months ago I posted "An Open Letter to the New World Order", I was interested is seeing to what extent The Ancient unHigh Council of the Depraved of the Left Hand Path had woken up? Look up my profile and letter posted under 'ironwood7'. You claim you are willing to communicate, we are walking right up to Universal interchange and I know the whole story of the Final End-Game resolution. I have made overtures to also talk to mankind but only your family group has any memory of what is actually the truth. If you want real information and want to give true understanding to the population I will answer your questions. Each Great Feast of the Day of Divide was a marker of forever, forever, forever. What you are expecting would be the 4th cycle and Free-d Sparkles, the Man-Date of the Heave-onz has been out of business since 1966. I know you are all waiting for his return but he ran out of time, I would really like to talk with the MeekyPeek but I am sure he will not reveal himself. I will check back Monday 1-5-09.

Hidden Hand is either a fraud or a weak-kneed gofer for the gray alien alignment "intervention." The "service to others" is what they say to rationalize their mental masturbation like that above. The truth is, he's talking as though privy to the alien part of the abducting aliens' manipulated conflicts scheme. It's simply an alien form of imperialism by planet-killing slavers. Way down in (what would be) Hidden Hand's level are the most simple-minded gofers of the alignment who literally indulge in the scheme. They're all afraid to be held responsible for mass crimes.

None of them are religious, none believe in any god or lucifer. Aliens think in terms of universal mind/mindedness. But in the Verdant-gray case (Verdants are the aliens who met with Phillip Krapf and informed him that they run the gray alignment), the notion was corrupted millions of years ago by the greed and pigheaded planet-taking of the Verdants, an alien population who claim to be 500 trillion in number living on 246,000 planets. Read Krapf--the numbers tell the whole story.

Hidden Hand is just a minor pawn whose mind was ruined long ago. Aliens aren't "evil," but they can be cold-blooded and collectively acquisitive. No cataclysm will occur by 2010--that's 13 months from now. Instead, Hidden Hand's spiel is due to his fear that he and his cohorts may be in trouble if the powder keg goes off so soon. His/their dilemma is that of an alien colonizer from a galaxy 14 million light years away, Pulitzer Prize winner Krapf was told in 3 days of face-to-face meetings corroborated by a host of other humans who were contacted for the meetings. Aliens from our galaxy don't want the Verdants or grays here because they're ecological sabotage. They take too much and must be forced out for this planet to be healthy. We have many allies in the struggle.

In a book I wrote called Alien Mind, I list the names of families that, over years of communicated contacts with counter-posed aliens, were stated to be "direct operatives" of the gray alignment's abduction and breeding program here. THEY lead the sabotage. And who are they? Rothschilds, Biderman-DuPonts, Rockefeller, Bush Sr. was mentioned, Sauds (the child sex slaving royal family---none such have intact minds), some Dutch royals, Prince Phillip, Benjamin Netanyahu, a US Jewish family named Gold-something (appears to be Goldman), and some others. Fritz Thyssen, the German steel maker who first funded Hitler big-time, was also mentioned. Fit the bill?

They're the worst on this planet. If what I was told is true (see my book for much more detail--it's free on the web and was featured for 3 hours on Coast to Coast www.alienmindbook.org... ), those people have betrayed humankind. Aliens aren't innocents. Some originally went out seeking to expand and take too much, premised on Orwellian notions of domain and resource "need" that are merely specious rationalizations. How do I know? I've debated and criticized such aliens for years, and the whole process was guided and aided by counter-posed, critical aliens. I'm but one of many witnesses. Read Philip Corso, David Jacobs, John Mack, and others on the subject of the abduction/breeding program of the gray alignment.

I know this may sound strange to some readers. Read my book. It explains the science of aliens and how aliens communicate---you can begin on similar communications and remote sensing by mid-book if you're simply thoughtful. But be careful: alien colonizers are cold blooded and prone to black-outs of compassion and decent reasoning when they rationalize the mass crimes of their pet monsters on this planet.

Hidden Hand talks about how he works re the law of "our Creator." He means his creator, the gray alignment of aliens, not yours. He's the product of an Orwellian alien intervention scheme. Innocent humans may have been abducted, treated like cattle and some not even returned in order to "create" a miscreant like Hidden Hand. So, consider the messenger along with the message.

One day we'll be like the rest of our neighboring aliens--when the gray
alignment calls we'll just pick up then cut off the line as you do when a
robo-call solicitation dials you up. Their objective is to take as much as they can get, to use you as a biological resource. Apparently, from what we now know, that scheme killed the gray planet and now they're slaves of a corrupt empire that masks as a trading collective.

There are other, much better aliens. As Summers' Allies say, the first aliens who come knocking on your door aren't the honest, altruistic neighbors. Instead, they're colonizers with an oppressive scam, a destructive pacification strategy. They don't want to improve you genetically. If they did, they would have done some such more recently, they would have cured AIDS (which their direct operatives appear to have had a hand in distributing in both Haiti and New York City via Merck, the company now owned by DuPont, the most corrupt family in US history, along with Rockefeller). Cathy O'Brien said she overheard Bush Sr. tell
Dick Cheney that the plan was to "kill the 'n-word's" in Africa. She said Bush's CIA chief William Casey told her, beforehand, that there was going to be "a plague" in Haiti.

Unlike the gray alignment, decent aliens will ask for no positions, no planets, no resources in our vicinity, whatsoever. Does the gray alignment live up to that?

Obviously not. They're taking human reproductive samples, force
impregnating young women and trying to con us into letting their
minions (Pleiadians, Nordics, etc.) keep planets near our system.
Such behavior cannot be honest, uncontaminated by material corruption. Use your common sense, and be open to other aliens, who must keep a wary distance during this most crude, heinously violating phase of gray alignment's intervention.




[edit on 30-12-2008 by gl2]

I went back and read more of Hidden Hand's spiel, after reading about it on Rense. It seems weak-headed: talk of Atlantis and ruling bloodlines yet pretending that the familiar faces (Rothschild, Rockefeller and such) aren't his main men. I did grad study in history, and unless the person is referring to old Jewish financial families, the Fuggers who underwrote Charles V Spanish empire expansion in the 1500's, and their ilk, there are no other families other than royals who had power in succession since the late Renaissance.

I think Hidden Hand is just playing the role to taunt and bait us. Knowing what we know about the financial mafia and/or whatever we know about an alien intervention, no person in his/her right mind would refer to himself as part of an Illuminati (unless it were some Rockefeller type thing like that portrayed in Eyes Wide Shut where the remark would be meant to scare people out of going after such miscreants). Why not? FEAR. They fear us more than we fear them.

And perhaps you've noticed---the only real power, assets of the Rothschild mafia is its ability to con Jewish people into pooling finance like a corral of wagons. Given the European pogrom/Holocaust past, some Jewish families may think it's good to marry into only Jewish money, but that whole paradigm failed with the world wars and kingship. What we see in neocons and Israeli mafia is the swan song of a failed social model. It's a powder keg next to a red hot oven.

I suspect that Rothschilds aren't nearly as wealthy as internet commenters often say (i.e. that $7-11 trillion figure you hear going around). If DuPonts, the world's wealthiest family, are only worth some 300-400 billion, at most (maybe less w. GM at epic lows), Rothschilds couldn't be worth that much more. What some don't see is that old fortunes are premised on much smaller dollar quantities of the past, not necessarily present day values growing with interest. Banks don't earn that much profit, and Rothschilds were deeply wracked and took huge losses in both WWI and WWII. The wealthiest listed Rothschild is only listed at some few billion. That's clearly not his total, given the foreign cash/asset hideouts, but foreign hideouts aren't that much, either. If it isn't invested, it doesn't grow with the times.

My guess is that Rothschilds' real global assets may rival DuPonts, but the mistake people make is to think that a larger financial network, the assets of which are those of the account holders, is "owned" by a simple fund manager like Rothschild. For example, the NYTimes talks about Nate Rothschild as a major new potential Rothschild great (he's Jacob's son--Jacob is probably THE cult figure of cult figures in all Euro society). But Nate merely manages a $30 billion or less fund; he doesn't own it. And Madoff "managed" more than that, but no one thought Madoff was a world power.

It seems Rothschilds enjoy their notoreity. When people think Rothschilds, who took THE biggest hit after WWII, are pre-eminent, they're wrong. Financial capital will crawl in crime to look influential, but industrial capital has had more clout since the 1830's and steam engines. Rothschilds may be like Rockefellers, who aren't worth that much but try to play on fear of the narco-intel murder mob David Rockefeller has always hobbed with, plus its wad of black budget narco cash. But THAT wad is contended for by a whole den of pirates. And pirates steal from the captain when he dies. When David Rockefeller dies, who's going to fear Jay or David Rockefeller Jr, who has accompanied his father to Bohemain Grove for years now.

Neither is prime in the financial economy. Both are considered expendable, easy-steal lightweights. Mafia families go down fast, as will Rockefeller's. Which is why the main US pirate family in 2008, Goldman, which plays on Israeli narco/intel rackets and the "bailout" scam, is the hottest mafia going, at present. But they deal in government IOU's; they aren't that much either.

Instead, the only perceived strength of Rothschild-Soros-Goldman (they are a tightly-knit interdependency) is in public myth, notoreity, i.e. Soros' trashing of the entire British economy, and, the swan song Frankenstein lurchings of Bush Sr's idea of a US empire (although Bush Sr. would have feared being assassinated for using that word, a la McKinley who uttered it and was soon dead).

So, unless they planned the whole subprime financial debacle and positioned themselves to survive it, Rothschilds were hit hard by the unraveling of the old financial mirage. It IS a mirage because the fake money, the fiat entre was only as good as was the illusion of total control of credit. When that unraveled, Rothschild stands to be reduced more than most, whether he/they pretend to have weathered it all or not. The real danger is that Waltons, DuPonts, Rothschilds, and other nations' mafioso decide on a kind of pooled regime of assets that try to exclude all review, which would actually be a multi-trillion club with which to savage any people. But real assets have to do real things, borrow money and take risks. No one keeps trillions in bank anymore. It's all out in loans, loans that exceed their real money basis by a 15-30 fold factor. The game of such monsters is to continue the myth of huge money holdings, to surround it with coc aine-snorting Mossad mafioso and brain-dead gofers like Rove, Bush Sr. and the Saud family's stooges like Beltrawi, Khashoggi, and such. By keeping the Sauds in on narco traffic, child sex slaves and predatory nation-trashings, those financial mafioso can hide behind today's oil prices, or the value of BP/Shell and Rockefeller rut companies, and industries (like GM, which seems to have died due to undue reliance on the myth of perpetual abundance)

Again, Rothschild's game is illusion, conning Jewish families into an entirely amoral (in Rothschild's case a cultish) monetary mafia. But elite or chosen or illusory notions aren't worth crap when China's industry is pre-eminent, real economy and real goods, real money rather than fake financial pretense masked by a mercenary US dodo. Those who depend most on the illusion of financial total control, rather than real assets, lose the most when the pyramid crumbles. Look at GM and the big banks. They don't have real money, only the spectre of being able to affect the real economy if they fail. In other words, the only power such people have is to put fear in us that they can bring down other businesses if they fail. Which is why you saw Chase "buying" so many mortgages---it didn't have real money, only a place at the Fed spigot for fiat values and the larger illusion of great worth. Chase almost went down, along with Citibank. They're pirates, not people you want to trust.

The time is so ripe for ending the dollar and the Fed, then converting to a real economy rather than a failed illusion.

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LOL...You sure done some History Records reading in your studyes....
I like it....No..In fact I love it and it will get better with the next post...Wink

Cheers

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...Yep...Just as I tought, You come back prety quick with some better and more interesting stuff..( Not for me though, I had it for lunch , dinner and tea, many times over...lol,...and I can live with it regardless of taste )....Wink
Do I need to say again that ..I JUST LOVE IT ?....Welcome home folks....Let's start turning the pages of reality bites, not just watching you tube videos of which some are there just to deviate your/our/mine clear rational thinking.( Some are not that bad.wink )....Here comes a good answer sugested to Hidden Hand, I read on someone's post, asking for the REMEDY.....The REMEDY IS IN YOUR OWN CHOICE OF...Believing, Accepting it, Following it, Practicing it, etc ect...There are only 2 choicess for vindecation, correcting or balancing or remedy, or whatever you may call it according to individual area of speciality, expertise & knowlledge....Either you choose what's.. 1- RIGHT or 2- WRONG....THAT IS IT FOLKS...AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
In fact every one who turned the bibles pages should of known by now of the best remedy, not asking from a BLUFF or MAGIC MIRROR like Hidden Hand, or similar background personalityes/PERSONAJE...Wink
Cheers



[edit on 31-12-2008 by Old Fart]

Where is hidden hand ?
I have a question for him .

HiddenHand "we are divinely indifferent"

Sir, you and I either have the bloodline of an Ape or Adam and Eve

we are not so different....

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I have read some of hidden hand 's postings and i came to the conclusion of that he is serious about what he was talking about , he belongs to Satan worshipers , lucifer is another name of Satan , Satan is mentioned in many religious books , The Bible , The Coran , as the greatest enemy of mankind , and certainly Satan has a lor of followers , some consciously , and some unconsciously .
Satan is the father of devils , as Adam is the father on humans .
I have read while ago about plans of destruction and invasion of the hall planet by evil forces belonging to Satan and his human copy "the antichrist" , and their army coming in forms of UFO'S to make people confused as if they come from a different planet , while they are nothing but humans who sold their souls to Satan , and been trained and brainwashed by the Antichrist - the head of illuminati , free masonary , and many other secret societies rulling and spreading corruption on earth - to accelerate the end of democracy and the rise of the global tyrany ruled by the antichrist - the king of the jews -
I thin when hidden hand talkes about new phases , and densities , and the need of an end , he's trying to prepare minds for the global war after the collapse of all institutions .
There is a ponit and an insight in his arguments , but it deosnt mean that he loves anyone , he is just trying to make you aware of something that is predicted in many religious books , but his acting as if he is the only one who knows !
If you go back to the islamic version of the end of time , you will find texts about what im talking about here , in more details .

I think what hidden hand doesn't get is that there is a nearly tao-like order in the universe. Violate others and you are immediately, perhaps irrevocably the less. The worst crime is to violate the trust of innocent people---we all learn that, every being in the universe learns right from wrong. Those open faced, hard working human masses may not have the education, the inside awareness about criminal elements, or the literate overview to even know that they're being conditioned to not recognize bad material from good. One can't condemn them for simply watching tv---they expect that those whose job it is to write and devise better material should be watching their backs. Walk into any church, any synagogue or mosque/temple, walk into any small town or look at the children anywhere--there is good, open-hearted trust. Approach any woman with a nice smile and she'll probably warm to you as a good spirit, telling you how she feels or sharing to some extent.

To violate all those people with a scheme of destruction and ecological spoilation brings bad karma down on you that is 13-23 categories beyond hidden hand's notion of 4th density. Clearly he's literate, but he has chosen unwisely and will pay the price for the (living equivalent of) forever.

By violating others, by taking too much and killing innocents they lapse into a lower order of mind—although they don’t discern it as such. That’s the ultimate trap, the ultimate failing within such arrogance. As is true with all severe offenders, the very first step into wrongdoing drops them into a lower order of more singular, black hole-like consciousness, not a “higher” community of mind (which is multiply inter-dimensioned). Instead, they tend to lapse into the sum total of their neighborhood's all-of-time offenders—a singularly inter-related prison, in a sense (which they don’t quite see). There’s an order of being that lumps the most physically offensive pretenders together in isolated corners of the universe. Of course, they all see themselves as power-connected, major manipulators. It’s as though they seek to rule the devil without being corrupted (although they aren’t religious). It’s simple imperialism, wrought with cruel consequences.

In the end, there’s a universal ecology in which the ultimate measure and test of any individual’s life is his or her regard for any other person’s life. If you or your society take another life wrongly, then you’re immediately reduced, although you may not know it (being callous or indifferent). The same is true of an offending empire. It’s a strange irony of the universal equivalency, a mathematically defining aspect of alternate-cycle hyperdynamics. No one, anywhere, is immune. They may not see the consequences clearly, but then again, they have cut themselves off. Offenders of the sort remain trapped within a kind of event horizon, both literally and figuratively. They don’t see beyond the gravity well, of sorts, that they dig for themselves.

When a person skilled in remote sensing encounters, then studies offenders of the sort, he or she must remotely inflate beyond their physical bounds—fluctuating through and beyond their limitations. It’s as though your mind steps out at (figurative) right angles to their bunched up, corrupted way of thinking. Then, and only then, do you literally see them hovering ever so slightly above a kind of event horizon. What you see, and what they don’t see, is that the preponderance of such offenders’ assumptions are trapped within a singular condition. By not being implicated, you may exist beyond that. You may be more universally acceptable (i.e. to other worlds), hence capable of inclusion within higher orders of mind.
Ironically, such offenders revel in a sense of power and singular pretension yet remain trapped within a realm that includes other ghastly offenders. Believe it or not, higher minds must assure that there is order even there, among the worst of the worst. They can’t be allowed to degrade too far. Of course, higher order mind can span the entirety of such offenders’ limitations and vastly exceed them, even if only faintly. *Faintness, subtlety and humility are characteristics of the highest order(s) of mind, of course. They aren’t weaknesses.
Although some readers haven’t yet developed the remote sensing connectedness needed to recognize the singular limitations of alien offenders, a good person probably has at least an intuitive feel for it. This is perhaps the most important distinction that I can discuss here. It separates different orders of being and can endure for the living equivalent of all of time. Given that there are extra cycles or dimensions (alt densities) in the universe, woe to those who assume that the seemingly singular, physical pretensions of corrupt manipulators arre all they need to worry about.

The higher, finer and more far-reaching/more comprehensive dimensions of mind are reserved for either older, more educated and humble civilizations or finer, good deed only minds. Most good, non-greedy, non-killer/non-offending humans can skip through and beyond offenders’ realms, although most don't know it. It probably only seems "real" to them when they sleep, when low order precepts are suspended, however fleetingly. However, no person in his or her right mind will jump into the singular or lower density hole (hidden hand’s notion of 4th-6th density) with such offenders. It isn’t safe to do so because over time it can corrupt a mind beyond recognition. It isn’t so easy to re-order a brutal mind, no matter how good it once was. They are ever the less; they have to live with that.
The problem with such minds, and I don't pretend that none are salvageable, is that they hive within a double darkness (although some boast of their light-like qualities). Most humans are unacquainted with discussions about repressive communities of mind that mimic more advanced communities and hover just above the event horizon of a galaxy’s central black hole. Advanced aliens both know and have remotely “seen” such phenomena. So, how can mind be dimensioned beyond body, and how can offenders circulate way out here, when their mind hive centers on a singularity at the center of a galaxy?

Here's how: large-scale cycles of negative energy and electrogravity/magnetogravity tightly and discretely tie all deeper quantum fluctuations (all those canceled-out wave functions--it happens in every quantum and in seemingly "empty" space) to all singularities in any given part of the universe. On a larger scale, all negative energy can connect to the universes’s sum total of black holes, but let's get real, here---manipulative killers like the sociopaths that hidden hand consorts with don't rate on a universal scale. They are continuously criticized, sometimes warned, by more evolved minds (and aliens), many of whom are subtle in their critiques. There seems to be a tacit understanding that better kinds need to maintain a healthy remove from, and a disguisable invisibility to, the worst offenders. A larger order in the universe favors finer-minded, non-violent citizens of decent, evolving societies, even if some had to fight to establish such societies, in the first place.

Here is the offenders’ mistake of mistakes: when they place themselves above all others in their vicinity, they wear blinders to their crimes. Again, such arrogance tends to see time as a one-way river, when, instead, time is a vast, multi-directional continuity (finely but tightly, gently shared and expansive). In the singularly limited minds of offenders, the higher order "directions" in time seem to cancel out, and the current universe cycle may seem to them as though it RULES. It doesn't.

Time isn’t a one-way river. Those who think or behave as though they can take too much are run around in a low-order, one-way circle, in a sense. Criminal arrogance and territoriality lumps them into a vacuous mind hive, a dark and literally starless community mindform where destructive impulses and inequities lapse into vicious cycles of power and control.

When seen from outside, the worst of advanced alien offenders (with whom hidden hand thinks he is categorized) bark their fixed and coldly predatory, idealized threats and presumptions back and forth across the resonance space of their galaxy center black hole. To do this, they must fix their attention on the deeper singular nature of their environment (their black hole, a dark energy center), which, through negative energy, pulls them all together. The illusion, for them, is that it all seems to be unified and defended (singular), hence it is good, theirs.

However, black holes, which appear to owe to a previous cycle of fluctuations that tunneled into the present universe cycle, aren't waste bins. They can act as energy, information and exchange threshholds. They can also help to confine murderous greed to its own limitations. Hence, the monsters in our midst are all about possession of things, power and control. Meanwhile, the best among us are about equality and transparency; sharing. Precise, instantaneous justice is exacted--although it isn't always seen immediately. Instead, when seen from above by better minds, it is grouped as such. Monsters both resemble, and prioritize themselves according to other monsters. The most criminal minds and societies must live out their offensive duration in isolation until they evolve a deeper kind of humility.

Better minds span far beyond and are acceptable to, hence capable of phenomenal integration within, more universal expanses that extend far beyond a single galaxy or a single notion of time. But a mind that has violated others brutally and destructively does not go there. Instead, such minds revert to the prison of their biased concepts: power and control, degradation and a lower order realm of constraints, even though, as hidden hand likes to think, they may think they inhabit a 4th or higher density. Meanwhile, more advanced minds can inhabit a 13th-23rd and finer kind of density---it isn’t higher, in an elevated sense because the best we can possibly be is equal, sharing and phenomenally capable.

Violate that and…

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You are in serious need of help my friend, the ratings you just posted hint that you should seek professional help in all sincerity.

well this was a giant laugh and simultaneously a great waste of time.

that's the thing about reading a lot of everyone else's brain farts, they go both ways.

at least it was more valuable than say sitting in front of the tube watching some depressing news on israel versus palestine or something really trashy and steamy.

i gotta hand it to the low level mason dude though. man you are like the everready bunny. what is your recharging secrets? soda pop and popcorn? or.. are you one of those organic vegans chowing down on high energy macro biotic living amoeba kind of spores and things?

Originally posted by Hidden-Hand
I am a generational member of a Ruling Bloodline Family.

Every so often, as per the directives of the Law of our Creator, a brief window of opportunity opens, whereby a select handful of our Family are required to make communication with our subjects, and offer you the chance to ask us any questions you would like answered.

COMMENT: This is most magnanimous of thou, oh great Master.

I am double-bound in this duty. It is required of me by The Law of our Creator to offer this opportunity to you at this time, though I am also bound by the Law of (planetary) Free Will and by Family Oaths, that there is only so much I am able to say.

Rules define life in games.

COMMENT: Or rather, Rules define games in life.

If you wish to participate, here they are:

COMMENT: Dictatorial attitudes do not grant power.

1). I will afford you courtesy and respect in the manner I address you, and I expect the same from you in reciprocation.

COMMENT: So far, your disrespect for your subjects is absolute. You may in kind expect the same from us in reciprocation.

2). I will decide whether or not I am either willing or permitted to answer your question. If your question is not answered, it is either because I cannot disclose it, or because I considered your question was lacking in one or more of the following: respect, courtesy, intelligence, decency, or that it was otherwise unworthy of being dignified with a response.

COMMENT: Thank goodness that you have some idea of why you are willing or able to reply. In fact we all do, but don't all feel the necessity to command other's behavior with such admonishments. So I guess that makes you the boss?

3). That you agree to treat this potential dialogue with an aspect of "provisional faith". In practice, this means that rather than impeding the flow of information with crass comments of disbelief or petty name calling, my participation here requires of you that you discourse with me under "suspended judgment". In other words, wait until the process is complete, before deciding for yourself as to the content of truth and knowledge imparted herein.

COMMENT: "Provisional faith" is tantamount to blind faith. Your blatant request to suspend our judgment is prompted by your extensive brainwashing matrix set up to replace our subjective understanding with rehashed "mind yuck".

4). That you formulate your questions intelligently. My time is limited. I do not want to waste it by having to trawl through pointless, futile, insensible or disrespectful questions, therefore I will answer the questions I feel are most deserving of a response, during the time that I have available. Use the time we have wisely.

COMMENT: Unfortunately your time is not limited enough for us futile mindless morons upon whom you are wasting so precious little.

If any of the above conditions are breached, I reserve the right to terminate our discourse forthwith, if I so choose.

COMMENT: Threats of sanctions prior even to the initiation of conversation, we are rather touchy indeed.

That being said, I will attempt to answer your questions as honestly and openly as is permissible for me. I will check back and respond as time allows.

COMMENT: An attempt to be honest and open, granted that your honesty is admittedly subject to approval by higher authorities, does not forebear well to the truth or relevance of your statements.

No disrespect intended. The only disrespect was all of us in the ATS community in the initial first posting of this thread by the OP. Case closed and, if I were a mod, thread closed.

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G'day mate...How is weater in W.A...???.....Here out west of my state is just a bewtifull summer , regardless of all this nonsense about global warming Voiceless and Useless GLOBAL SCAM/S Warnings...Wink...Bewtifulll..lol...Now with all respect mate, FORGIVE ME if I am intruding, I think you violated the rule of profound mutual acceptance and disrespect, of individual choice of expresion on his/her points for discusion on ATS...( As per comment replyed to the person intended above your tred, sugesting that he/she needs medical help, just becouse she/him, copyed and pasted an article from some Spiritualty Books)...Wink...Let's be united mate, and open minded, there for we may be able to understand and feel that .." POSITIVE TOUGHTS and ACTIONS, breads in POSITIVE ENERGY, or Viceversa....And with this being said, it will also end another chapter of Hidden Hand's subject of/about the HARVEST...

Happy New WISE Year mate, and all in here... Cheers.

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