Orzeml(The Pleiadean) message to our kind

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Nice painted clay 'rocks' there

Oh and they have magnets inside of them? noooooo

Damn aliens got all us fooled..I pity da fool!

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I have a proposition to put to you, one that would sweep away all doubt about your veracity: in your other thread (which is not dissimilar to this one, so heaven's knows why you didn't just add this further "visitation" to that one), you have stated publicaly that Orzmel and his female sidekick Amizarac have at their disposal at least five space ships.

Indeed, they recently, according to you, blockaded two "huge black ships" that were approaching earth (how do you blockade in a 3D environment?). You said that the goody "Pleiadain", Amizarac, successfully met with and dissuaded the other "baddy" aliens from any further action.

Here's the suggestion; why not get one up on Blossom Goodchild and persuade your "contacts" to float one of their ships (I'm sure one can be spared) in our atmosphere?

Just for a short time, but plainly for all to see.

Would that not help your mission to spread "their" word without any fear of ridicule and rejection?

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No no that would be interfering with humankind

.....wait....oh yeah the Plebs or whatever they are have been helping out for centuries........

Last night I had the pleasure of spending some time with CocaColaZ and BarcardiZ....from the CubaZ LibreZ system.

They told me a whole bunch of stuff....at the end of which, I said, "no kidding Sherlock?" Then I told them that Siddhartha Guatama beat you to it by about 2500 years.

Then they said, "ever try it with a lime wedge?" Ahhhh....now I am enlightened.

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reply to post by smokingman2006


OH ! boy here we go again...smok, it was funny the first time but now its getting a little bit weird and pathetic, don't you think so?

If you dont like or understand the message the solution is easy dont read it and dont reply

abusing the bringer of news changes nothing but goes a long way to explain we have a lot to learn about self control.

Do you think beings of another life form would understand some of these childish comments?

Originally posted by smokingman2006
If you dont like or understand the message the solution is easy dont read it and dont reply

Nope...being an altruistic human doesn't work that way. We have the obligation to speak out whenever we encounter opinions, comments, or philosophies that we think are misguided, non-humanistic, and/or misleading.

I don't like nor understand the rhetoric of groups such as the KKK, Aryan Nation, GFL, FOL, Raelians, etc., etc....and ignoring the rhetoric is promoting it. So I pay attention to it, research it, and then voice, or write, my opinion of it. I can do that....I'm a thinking human.



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reply to post by smokingman2006


The message? So you are a "New age Messiah" ? Good 4 u smok, good 4 u...i on the other hand don't have to make up stories about "Pleiadeans", "Nordics", "Dracos" n such to to deal with real issues of our REAL world. Over n out

This is the grey area. Smokingman is continuing to share his experience of contact as he has with his other thread. His story is significant, remarkable, and ongoing. Face to face contact with those who really do have solutions to our problems. These problems are not faced by our visitors in their worlds. In this category, where personal experiences can be shared and explored in depth by others who are very interested, those who have followed his experiences from the beginning are waiting for exactly this, input from our visitors on the current status of things, and a plan or blueprint that we can follow to improve things. Note, they are not commanding us, but making suggestions. So far, their overview on the current state of social injustice and massive out of balance wealth distribution, along with our environmental issues, is right on.

Edit to add: This grey area is for those who have a core need, often even experiences themselves, to examine in depth these experiences without alot of negative imput. People who have had contact, or experiences, even in the form of abductions, have their own criteria for believing whether someone has had contact. They tend to notice the ones that have. This guys account is the real thing.

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[edit on 17-10-2008 by mystiq]

Originally posted by smokingman2006
If you dont like or understand the message the solution is easy dont read it and dont reply

abusing the bringer of news changes nothing but goes a long way to explain we have a lot to learn about self control.

Do you think beings of another life form would understand some of these childish comments?

Wait a minute! They appear to understand all our other negative traits: such as hate, greed, warmongering and so on. But they don't understand 'childish'? How does that work?

reply to post by Beamish


Beamish I am not trying to get one up on blossom or anyone.

My job is not to convince the whole planet that alien are in contact with me and to get them to fly around to please afew and (scare the living daylights out of many more)
those who understand the message are the one who must be reached first to the others I wish them good luck.



[edit on 17-10-2008 by smokingman2006]

Originally posted by Merriman Weir
My question about logic is things like "We will give you to knowledge of the [...]
I'm actually talking from a hypothetical standpoint because I don't actually believe this guy is in touch with aliens. If only because he's not actually giving me any reason to do so other than saying ''so, hooked-up with my man from The Pleiades last night and we got to talkin'...' That really carries as much weight as my claiming I came to earth in a Moses basket.

I see your point, thanks for clarifying it for me. I can understand and agree with your opinion.

[edit on 17-10-2008 by Harman]

To not actually be interested in what our visitors think of us, and what their suggestions would be is ludicrous. Of course I'm interested. The differences between our civilizations and the enormous injustices on this planet cannot help but make me interested.
This thread really discusses the differences between the worlds our visitors come from and our own: www.abovetopsecret.com...
It is also one, that as an experiencer seeking core knowledge, I was very drawn to and recognize as a fellow experiencer, one with more information that I have. In her account, the world of advanced life is lived peacefully, equally, and the babies do not even cry, because they are talked to telepathically by their parents, and loved completely. I am in so much awe of the civilized worlds lived in by our visitors. In comparison, this account shows that "Jack the Ripper" is a universal standard used to teach our visitors children about life on earth.
Disclosure to me means, not only total transparent sharing of everything pertaining to our visitors, but they themselves coming out of hiding and sharing with the worlds people their knowledge, their advice, and even the orders that may exist by various federations.
Seentoomuch's acount in her thread talk about one of the federations that patrol our area and try to keep certain elements away. I am so very ready to understand the politics and organization of this galaxy and universe.
No, I don't want for us to handle this ourselves and shut ourselves off from the incredible wealth of knowledge and advancement.

[edit on 17-10-2008 by mystiq]

Nurse, Nurse! He's out of bed again!.

Put simply, even if you believe this is true, this is an incredibly bad time to post this.

His contact has been going on for some time now, and he posts when he must. He must have a reason to separate this as a separate message than his main thread, perhaps to show its significance in their view of things. If this was happening to you you'd see the significance in everything they say.

i have to disagree with many of you about whether they can contact us here on earth, me and some of my more evolved friends can carry out full conversations without ever saying aword, so why cant a far less primitive speicies y for communicate with ppl they deem worthy of recieving their messages. much of the reason why many ppl have a hard time with any abilities its due to the fact they limit themselves on a subconscious level. it is very possible that they deemed this guy worthy for whatever reason and then projected themselves to his whereabouts inorder to relay. im not say thathe for sure did have interaction however i am saying its definitely possible especiall for pleidians.

smoking man is right, look at u ppl, his whole topic was how we r too busy fighting over mundane crap, money, relgfion etc. that we can barely ever seem to come together 4 anything except war. and here u are. how stereotypically human somebody says something u dont understand or dont wanna believe or is too different, and immediately u guys r stoning the guy guy metapphorically of course. im not saying that he has seen these guys because i cannot account for that, however its bnot our place to tell him that he didnt, how do we kno, we dont. and if u guys continue to percieve and act in this stereotypical human fashion than if they r contacting some of us guarantee u will never get to speak with one unless u allow urself to comprehend all the possibilities. ask urself "HOW CAN SEEING BE BELIEVEING, IF ALL U CAN SEE IS WHAT U BELIEVE?"
I RECCOMEND BELIEVE EVERYTHING AND BELIEVE NOTHING BECAUSE AS SOON AS U COME TO A SPECIFIC BELIEF U CLOSE URSELF OFF. THINK HOW HOW MANY PPL HAVE DIED THANKS TO BELIEFS.

Well, it's official. The ignorant people have to be eliminated before we have contact. That means that the NWO will have to take over and "evolve" our race. Or, the visitors will come down and do it for us. Well, I'm done crying about this. I hope you all have a nice afterlife.

The bell curve seems to be accurate; and, since that inevitability is obvious, we are going to have a serious culling of the herd.

I, for one, will no longer fear this. I am not guilty of the sins outlined by the OP; but, the rest of you are. And, God's speed to our evolution, in whatever form it may come.

I, actually, wrote about this in my book, after my own encounter of the third kind, because these "visitors" told me it was going to happen this way as soon as Nemesis returned. And, I'm truly sorry to those people who will not live to see our grand future.

Your honor is your destiny.

[edit on 17 10 2008 by PeteLee]

I ALSO HAVE TO ADD THAT IF THEY R COMMUNICATING WITH HIM THEY R PROBABLY PROJECTING THEMSELVES NOT PHYSICALLY SHOWING UP I N THERE SHIPS, MY MOTHER CAN PROJECT HERSELF SO ICAN SEE HER SO WHY CANT A PLEIDIAN. OPEN UR MINDS UP PPL. DAMN.

reply to post by smokingman2006


Smokingman,

Can you share your dragon story with us?

Thanks