Aiken County deputy fired, arrested *Video*

I've met quite a few cops like that in my time. This one was probably hung over or just pissed off for some reason and decided to take it out on the first person he saw( this one was black but you don't know if he was looking for a black person or not). Think that because he has a badge that he can do or say whatever he likes.

That young guy is gonna get paid for this and he deserves every penny. He showed incredible restraint for someone who was being harrased and still did everything he was asked to do. I think myself I would have let that cop have it if he hit me like that but im sure thats what the officer wanted to have happen.

reply to post by jackinthebox


That is messed up too. They feel like they are doing the wrong things, for the right reasons. They see it as a war on crime, and if they can lock up someone they know is a trouble maker for nothing at all, they will. In their eyes they are justified. But in reality, they are breaking the law, and breaking that trust between them and the general public.

I believe alot of this crap happens because of inflated egos as well. You give em a badge, and a gun, and they feel like a god. Many many things go into why a bad cop is a bad cop.

reply to post by SteveR


If the dude wants to be a pretend gangster he has the right to. If a cop is worn down by what he encounters in his job he needs to find another job. If the eighteen year old had an irreverent attitude thats because he was just giving back what was given to him. This piece of $p!+ cop was out of control and needs to be kept from performing his egomaniacal agenda. This cop seen himself as being able to do no wrong, infallible and above reproach. He had a problem with the looks of the 18 yr old from the get go. The cop who takes his/her job so personally has no place on any force. He is a loudmouthed antagonistic, fatheaded jerk. Racist? I don't think so. I'm sure he would have had a problem if the kids were white and dressed the same way. This behavior tells us so much about a persons true id. We need to look closely.

reply to post by schism85


So true. Take again the example of the cop who arrested me for beating up my GF. He probably really thought that I did it, and that I was just going to "get off" because the system doesn't work. And I knew it right then too.

Maybe he did put it together though, because he did shut up after I told him, "Man, just shut the f up because you don't even know what the hell you're talking about and I'm gonna make you look like a fool in court."

Normally that sort of "posturing" would assure the beat down, but I think he might have actually suddenly realized the cute little blond girl had just played him.

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
You didn't respond to the list I wrote.

I dislike the generalizations format but I told you I would reply to this.

reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation


Your Points condensed

Harassed
Assaulted
Victim tolerated it by laughing
Cop has history

My Points

(Isn't working out of the hood
Associates with criminals
Doesn't speak english acceptably
Doesn't interact acceptably
Hides evidence of drug crime
Dresses like a moron)
= Subject refuses to associate with wider society

(Jeers at cop
Jumps up into face and shouts
Finnin' to get paid
Obsessed with said payment)
= Subject is an antisocial leech

(Cop harassed state of dress
Cop concerned about state of society
Cop worn down
Cop pushes subject down
Cop offers personal advice
Cop offers help if subject assists on drug issues)
= Cop misused authority to tackle problem

(Subject refuses all offers
Subject spends night in jail
Politically correct apply pressures
Cop loses job, arrested
Subject is rewarded for behavior)
= Subject's attitude reinforced, public servant punished disproportionately

[edit on 2008/9/25 by SteveR]

reply to post by SteveR


You can't really be serious? I'm just itching to shred that post.

reply to post by jackinthebox


I was obligated to post that. But you, however, could use your time more productively.

reply to post by jackinthebox


I think he doesn't want to get torn apart any longer. LOL. Would have been fun though.

I love you two!

Putting a star on each other's one liners. Hungering for a debate to feed emotional impulses. You make quite the team.

Sure you're not the same person?

[edit on 2008/9/25 by SteveR]

reply to post by SteveR


Well, you already showed that your position was untenable when you refused to debate me. Fancy a go now?

reply to post by jackinthebox


You are getting things wrong already.

But, you are welcome to reply to my last post.

[edit on 2008/9/25 by SteveR]

reply to post by SteveR


Well I thank you good sir, but alas, we must engage in this debate at another time, as my access to this computer is about to expire for the time being. Perhaps Sunday my good man, when I have access to this fine internet once again.

reply to post by jackinthebox


Very good. I shall be more courteous with a breather.

You will be the last. I do not need to speak to 5+ representatives of the same position.

Originally posted by SteveR
reply to post by Jay-in-AR

 

Why so? It makes complete sense.

The dude had his boxers hanging out, laughed at the cop, had an irreverent attitude from the beginning, shouted an inch away from his face. Basically a pretend gangster with his pretend gangster friends.

If you were a polite cop and had that on a daily basis, wouldn't it wear you down?

Then don't be a cop.

First off, when you take that job you know exactly what you are getting into and if you don't then you were ot properly trained and are nothing short of a moron.

Secondly, in some areas it is illegal to have your boxers showing. Like areas of Chicago and I know it was being considered in Atlanta as well and to my knowledge was passed into law. This was South Carolina where there is NO LAW regarding saggy pant and boxers showing. So in essence, this officer had NO RIGHT to say anything to this person at all. He had no business telling him to pull up his pants, no business to ask for his I.D.

So what if the kid was laughing? If you are being stopped for doing something that is NOT ILLEGAL anyway, why not laugh at the cop? Obviously the guy who is there to uphold the law has no clue what the law even is?

IMO this is a raciest issue. Why does this guy have to be a "thug"? How does saggy pants equal "thug activity"? These guys did not walk out of a house, they were simply walking down the street so I dont want to hear the whole "He might have walked out of a crack house" argument. Sorry...no house.

This pig got everything he deserved (and yes he is a pig. Anyone who acts the way he did IS a pig) and quite frankly the "assisting" officer would be charged as well. She allowed it to happen. She participated in his arrest after the "suspect" was assaulted by the cop. That is illegal arrest. She knew (or should have) that this kid did not violate the law, yet she assisted in cuffing him and arresting him just as much as the pig who assaulted him did. Fact is, if this had not come out and forced her into a position to tell the truth, she would have kept her mouth shut and allowed this kid to be charged, arrested, go to court etc etc. That is what cops do. They watch each others back and protect each other at the expense of people who really did not do anything wrong.

And I dare someone to tell me I am wrong... cause any cop here knows full well as I do that a cop who "rats" on another cop or aids in their investigation with internal affairs is looked down upon by the rest of the department. That is a fact....which is pretty funny considering "thugs" do the same thing.

reply to post by SteveR


Thank you for the reply.

I think we might just differ on the fundamental idea that society has no absolute definitions. Be an individual. Respect those that deserve respect. You know, Bob Marly was spoken about like this perp in the video. On the surface, he may look the part, but internally his message was for emancipation of spirit.

However, if you differ on a fundamental, you could easily get lost in the semantics that were birthed from that original difference.

Any debate that comes from this, will only be focusing on the semantics, while ignoring the commonalities of each of our opinions. There is no right or wrong in semantics, so what's the point?

AAC

[edit on 25-9-2008 by AnAbsoluteCreation]

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
I think we might just differ on the fundamental idea that society has no absolute definitions.

Isn't that an age old debate? You can ofcourse take this to sociology, anthropology and even political science. But, in the end, I submit this is indicative of a problem that needs to change. I support him as a human being for his efforts to confront it, however childish those efforts may be.

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
You know, Bob Marly was spoken about like this perp in the video.

Bob Marley was a Rastafari, he would stick out amongst them. Don't overgeneralize.

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
Any debate that comes from this, will only be focusing on the semantics, while ignoring the commonalities of each of our opinions.

We will see where it goes. Jack has his chance to express what he needs to express.

"It is better to debate a question without settling it than to settle a question without debating it." - Joseph Joubert (French Essayist and Moralist, 1754-1824)

It comes down to your patience. It may be resolved for AAC now, but remember you were the only one here who found it important enough to post a thread.

reply to post by SteveR


You say over generalization. I say your advocating conformity. However, neither of us are advocating such.

To be honest, I posted this to see a reaction. You are a soldier, so you took the challenge of defending a man who deserved defense to a certain degree, however not to the point you have galvanized.

You have yet you speak in favor of the other side.

AAC

reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation


Do I defend him or the values that pushed him to be a jerk? He couldn't handle an insurmountable problem. He distorted his own opportunities to provide a distorted solution. My support for the 'other side' comes in my criticism of the cop.

I gather this is a sore spot for some. We would all feel better if I kept my mouth shut or if I said the victim was a good guy who deserved none of it. Then we could breathe a sigh of relief.

Move beyond the emotional.

Originally posted by SteveR


Move beyond the emotional.

Balance it. Don't move beyond it. IMO.

AAC

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation


You have yet you speak in favor of the other side.

AAC

I was talking to a Firefighter buddy the other day, he retired this year from Flint, Michigan Fire. He was stationed on the bad side of town. These thugs drive by the station and shoot at the Firefighters personal vehicle and the station itself trying to kill some Firefighters!

Please unless you are in the real world. and have dealt with inner-city thugs please do not defend them, because you have NO IDEA what you are talking about. 90 percent of these thugs are raised to take advantage of every situation, its not about race, its not about skin color, or how poor they are, its about the mindset and how they are being raised.

In most of these hoods the Fire Dept. has to be escorted by the police so they dont try and kill the medics for there drug box. They dont care that you are trying to do the right thing in life...they see that as a weakness instead of the strength of character it represents.

Go this weekend to the biggest city near you and hang out in the hood all night. Then go to the poorest trailer park and if you survive the "hood" tell me the difference. We need to wake up and acknowledge the problem so it we can at least start to fix it.