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The 11th of September 2001

Remember, remember the 11th of September, controlled demolition, treason and plot..... I see no reason why the thermite treason should ever be forgot. The president, 'twas his intent to blow up the public and enrage the masses. Three planes from above, the people's will to overthrow, an unknown enemy to create, so the public will not stay safe. Fear monger, take the public’s freedom away, by force, treason, or sway. God save the people, from the government, police, and tyranny. Anyone who discounts the official story will be called a denier as if they spoke blasphemy. Will the truth of that dark day ever be known, will we stop all wars, will the governments ever atone?

Hello, folks.

I would have started my own thread on here, although I ran into the "20 post" limit which I totally agree with. To get straight to the point, I was wondering if someone would be willing to just have some back and forth discussion with me regarding all of these alternative theories? Generally, I am fairly unfamiliar with them and just want to get some answers for the answers.

Just for starters, why would the government attack one of their global financial centers (causing millions of damage, no less)?

Glad I spotted this thread. Now I have a mini-library at my fingertips. Simply by replying to it , it is now in my profile list of posts. Good googly woogly !

Has anyone seen my thread about my experience in the military during 9/11? You may have momentarily seen it last night, before it was moved to the loony bin.

At first my attempt was to recount my experience just so that others could hear my story. I didn't think it would matter much and people would take it to heart for their own good.

However, it got moved from what I thought was the best place for it to be into the realms of mystery and magic. Beside the fact that I have proof of something which I now know is remarkable, the events of my story is completely undeniable.

I don't care who was involved or what happened during 9/11, I just wanted some people to hear my story, which is true.

Not only do I claim it true, I would, with a hand full of people behind me, call out all those that know about it. Do a search under ATS for "Suspicious Saudis in my military class"

What started out as a true story to tell a few people who are interested has turned overnight into a pilgrimage to tell all.

9/11 was done by Central European extremists. Read The Cooper Report and end the guessing. It is at peacesalad.com or ebay or ebid.net

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Not sure if this is best section for this information or if anybody has seen or posted this already.

New Zealand for 911 truth have a good pdf booklet covering all the evidence and facts.

It can be downloaded from there website below.

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The fifth example is named after the Chinese philosopher-warrior, Sun
Tzu. The "Sun Tzu" example is based on selective, instant decapitation
of military or societal targets to achieve Shock and Awe. This
discrete or precise nature of applying force differentiates this from
Hiroshima and Massive Destruction examples. Sun Tzu was brought before
Ho Lu, the King of Wu, who had read all of Sun Tzu's thirteen chapters
on war and proposed a test of Sun's military skills. Ho asked if the
rules applied to women. When the answer was yes, the king challenged
Sun Tzu to turn the royal concubines into a marching troop. The
concubines merely laughed at Sun Tzu until he had the head cut off the
head concubine. The ladies still could not bring themselves to take
the master's orders seriously. So, Sun Tzu had the head cut off a
second concubine. From that point on, so the story goes, the ladies
learned to march with the precision of a drill team.

The Top Ten Reasons to Doubt The Government Story of The Events Before, During, and After The Events of 9/11/2001

1. Physical phenomenon: The collapse or “destruction” of The Twin Towers in a nearly identical manner and at the same high-rate of speed. According to The 9/11 Commission Report, The South Tower collapsed in ten seconds.

“Both towers had 110 stories, were about 1,350 feet high, and were square; each wall measured 208 feet in length.” – The 9/11 Commission Report. If The South Tower is 1,350 feet high and collapsed in ten seconds, as specified above, and all is equivalent, this means 135 feet (45 yards) of building would have to go away per second. The speed for this to occur would be roughly 92 mph.

2. Physical phenomenon: To use phrases from The 9/11 Commission Report, the “massive dust cloud”, “ferocious windstorm”, or “violent roar” the destruction of the towers created implies a great amount of kinetic energy. See The Law of Conservation of Energy: “Energy is never destroyed, only transformed.”

3. Physical phenomenon: The furnace within the ruins and rubble of twisted metal in the craters the destruction of The Twin Towers created that burned for weeks and months after the inital destruction of the towers.

4. On the day of 9/11, people of all walks of life, firefighters, policemen, helicopter pilots and pedestrians report explosions shortly before either plane struck the towers, during the carnage, and shortly before collapse.

5. The collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 at near free-fall speed.

6. A scientific paper reporting explosive or incendiary material referred to as “active thermitic material”, a “pyrotechnic nanocomposite” or “nanothermite” found within the dust from the collapse of The Twin Towers.

7. The behavior of The Bush Administration after the events of 9/11. A commission to investigate the attacks was opposed. President George W. Bush and his vice-president, Richard B. Cheney would not testify separately nor under oath.

After the “persistence and dedication” of the families of 9/11 “helped create the Commission” to quote from The Preface to The 9/11 Commission Report (printed edition) which was authored by Thomas H. Kean, Chair and Lee H. Hamilton, Vice Chair, Public Law 107-306 was passed on November 27, 2002 to create the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States. According to the law, the purpose of the Commission was to: “examine and report upon the facts and causes relating to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, occurring at the World Trade Center in New York, New York, in Somerset County, Pennsylvania, and at the Pentagon in Virginia”. The conclusion that the events of 9/11 was an attack of terrorists was written into the law creating the commission before even an investigation could determine whether such a conclusion was correct from the beginning. According to the Preface as mentioned above, “Our aim has not been to assign individual blame. Our aim has been to provide the fullest possible account of the events surrounding 9/11 and to identify lessons learned.”

8. The pre-9/11 and post-9/11 world existing and propagated by the ship of state as a political, social, moral, and legal reality. Without this radical change in society, a policy of preemptive warfare, which has spanned Administrations, toward the nations of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, Yemen, Oman, The United Arab Emirates, and Iran, would not be possible.

Thus the events of 9/11 could be seen as an act of violence in the style of guerrilla warfare (and an application of the military doctrine: shock & awe: “...in Rapid Dominance, the principal mechanism for affecting the adversary’s will is through the imposition of a regime of Shock and Awe sufficient to achieve the aims of policy.”) to create the conditions required for the revolution, meaning it was coup d’état, change by force, a stroke of state in the classic sense to install a small group of people into power and grant them control over the nation’s institutions. The act of violence was the launch of the perpetual warfare state; a crumbling republic has become a new empire.

9. Bush I, Iraq War I. A respite. Bush II, Iraq War II.

10. Smedley Butler, and his treatise: “War is A Racket”. His claims of the existence of “The Business Plot”. From this point of view, the events of 9/11 are explained by The Corporate Logic: Profits Over People upon a scale of international conquest.

Add to this, the information presented in the Bill Moyers documentary, The Secret Government. The below two quotes from it are of great significance:

"The Director [sic. CIA] was interested in the ability to go to an existing, as he put it “off-the-shelf, self-sustaining, stand alone, entity” that could perform certain activities on behalf of The United States.” – Oliver North to a congressmen in The Secret Government [emp. mine]

“The Secret Government is an interlocking network of official functionaries, spies, mercenaries, ex-generals, profiteers and super-patriots who for a variety of motives operate outside the legitimate institutions of government.” – Bill Moyers in The Secret Government

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4 years too late, but I would say I rest in the camp of people who believe the government did not plan it themselves. I more think that they knew it was coming and did nothing to stop it. a reply to: KingofSwing