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Originally posted by Major Discrepancy
The Major is both amused, and saddened. Amused at the new level of hoop jumping and contortionist "apolognastics" the Obamanites have had to engage in. The Major has no choice but to question what a Harvard education actually imbues its recipient. Not much in the case of the Junior Senator from the easily duped state of Illinois.
Originally posted by Krieger
As already said and stated, Obama was talking about McCain's "Change" plan. McCain specifically attacked a woman. McCain also voted against Equal Pay for Equal work. So who's the sexist here?
Originally posted by nataylor
reply to post by northof8
"Spear chucker" is a racial epithet. "Lipstick on a pig" is not an inherently racist or sexist remark. It's only being called such here because of the supposed linking to Palin's joke during the convention speech.
Originally posted by Krieger
BUT HE WASN'T TALKING ABOUT PALIN! Watch the video. He is talking about McCain, and only McCain!
Did you actually watch the video I posted above, where his remarks are put in context? Did you watch the Stephanapolis interview, where his "muslim faith" comments were in context? It's pretty clear if you watch those videos what he's actually talking about. That people can take things so wildly out of context is disturbing to me. I makes me wonder if people who do take such things out of context can carry on day-to-day conversations with people, because it seems they would constantly be thinking people are saying one thing, when in fact they said a completely different thing.
Originally posted by northof8
Lipstick on a pig is not an inherently racist or sexist remark... I agree with that but... In the context of Palins remarks and Obamas play on those remarks I would say this is a highly sexist remark and its not a stretch to make the connection. If you can't see that then I don't know what to say.
Now here is a stretch but a very chilling telling of who Obama really is in my opinion. Obama made a slip up of his true faith on ABC News the other night. He said he had Muslim Faith. Nothing wrong witht hat but... Muslims think Pigs are filthy, no good and have no place on this planet. Obama called Palin a pig. Palin is white. Obama hates white women and thinks they are pigs. Obama is a racist sexist.
Originally posted by nataylor
Did you actually watch the video I posted above, where his remarks are put in context? Did you watch the Stephanapolis interview, where his "muslim faith" comments were in context? It's pretty clear if you watch those videos what he's actually talking about. That people can take things so wildly out of context is disturbing to me. I makes me wonder if people who do take such things out of context can carry on day-to-day conversations with people, because it seems they would constantly be thinking people are saying one thing, when in fact they said a completely different thing.
Originally posted by northof8
Lipstick on a pig is not an inherently racist or sexist remark... I agree with that but... In the context of Palins remarks and Obamas play on those remarks I would say this is a highly sexist remark and its not a stretch to make the connection. If you can't see that then I don't know what to say.
Now here is a stretch but a very chilling telling of who Obama really is in my opinion. Obama made a slip up of his true faith on ABC News the other night. He said he had Muslim Faith. Nothing wrong witht hat but... Muslims think Pigs are filthy, no good and have no place on this planet. Obama called Palin a pig. Palin is white. Obama hates white women and thinks they are pigs. Obama is a racist sexist.
Thanks for not answering my question. I take it you didn't actually watch the video. And don't call me an Obama supporter. I'm not. I hate the guy's policies. But that's the difference between myself and, it would seem, many of the people here. I care about policies, not silly little false outrages like this that do nothing but drag the whole political system down. Debates the ideas, debate the policies. Don't make stupid false claims about any of the candidates. It's ridiculous.
Originally posted by northof8
I don't think we are taking these things widly out of context. From your perspective as an Obama supporter I can see your point of view. You are doing damage control.
Originally posted by Krieger
reply to post by loam
And yet you and the others are still screaming that Obama is a sexist and was attacking Palin.
And no, Obama doesn't wish he hadn't said it. He wasn't attacking Palin but McCain's BS.
So I'll repeat it as much as I want.
OBAMA WAS ATTACKING MCCAIN'S BS "CHANGE" PLAN NOT PALIN!
And you apparently don't understand what the phrase "playing the gender card" means. It means "the act of bringing the issue of gender or sexism into a debate, to obfuscate the matter." So it is, in fact, the people "outraged" by this that are playing the gender card. Your poor command of idiomatic phrases might explain why you think this is a sexist remark in the first place.
Originally posted by northof8he is a sexist and played a whole deck of gender cards in one sound bite.