Obama The Sexist: You Can Put Lipstick On A Pig

Is saddening to just watch on this thread the level of hipocrisy and intellectual dishonesty.

If Obama talks about the issues, he is a nut.

If Obama takes a jab at McCain/Palin, he is sexist, rude to an old guy that serve the country.

If Obama doesn't say anything, then he must me hiding something.

We got to raise the level here guys, I'm leaning towards Obama but I have called him on his mistakes many, many times and have gave credit to McCain/Palin when is due, this is a non issue to me so I'm out of the thread.

[edit on 10-9-2008 by Bunch]

reply to post by northof8


Is your ludicrous mentioning of "Obama's Muslim faith" political trolling or what? This canard has been brought up time and again on this board and has been shot down each and every time. Again, this goes to the point that the "right" has NO palatable platform to offer the American public, so they will obfuscate, lie and toss about rhetorical brik-a-brak in order to avoid any debating of actual issues that actually affect our lives.
Go say what you want, you are only reenforcing the moderate, independent and liberal view that the "right" is morally bankrupt and devoid of ideas.
The rest of us will look at issues as best we can and make real decisions based on real things, like facts!
Enjoy your echo chamber.

Originally posted by SectionEight
Heavy damage control this morning on the MSNBC front. Their morning show anchor actually said McCain is using "reverse sexism" and being sexist towards Obama the man.

What a joke.

Now I've heard it all! Rather than do the right thing and apologize for his sexist remark, he calls McCain sexist.

Originally posted by SectionEight
Heavy damage control this morning on the MSNBC front. Their morning show anchor actually said McCain is using "reverse sexism" and being sexist towards Obama the man.

What a joke.

Well with PMSNBC that doesn't surprise me. The only reaction I need is from real people. 4 of the 5 women in my office that are leaning toward Obama said it was a disgusting reference to Palin. Women are not happy about this one at all.

Of course the 4 democrat women in my office were very big Hillary supporters. When she lost they were disgusted but did voice support for Obama after the convention even though they felt the media was biased against Hillary. I am unsure what they will do now but this doesn't help Obama any that is for sure.

After they watched the video one of them said this: "I guess a vote for Obama is a vote for someone who thinks women of this country are pigs. This was one of the Hillary supporters...

Originally posted by bknapple32
reply to post by Alxandro

 

It was not at all directed at Palin. Can you not understand what the expression means? It has nothing to do with male/female!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let me break it down for ya...

The pig is ugly

The lipstick can make be considered make up, which makes people more attractive( usually)

Lipstick on a pig will still not take away from the fact that the pig is ugly (if you think pigs are ugly that is)


Get it??????

He's right. That was exactly what I thought when I heard about it in class this morning. Mudslinging is just part of the race, and of course Obama had to reply to HER comment. You can't say she didn't put herself in that position for a reply comment. And that was all it was.

Chillax. it's not sexist, and the PIG IS MCCAIN. He's saying McCain is using her to make him look better, but that is ALSO obvious.

this was an obvious, thinly veiled jab at palin... in context to her famous, well known remark about lipstick and pit bulls.... let's not pretend that we're not aware of her speech...

there are many 'expressions' one could use to express the idea intended, but the employment of this particular one was no accident... how easily played can some people be?

no accident, the phrase was a calculated tactic. and a desperate cheap shot...

i hope to hear more, nothing is better evidence that mccain & palin are on the right track than to see the indignant outrage by the libs.

Originally posted by Bunch
If Obama talks about the issues, he is a nut.

more accurately, it's his position on the issues that make him a clueless nut... tax increases on business and tighter restricions will create costs that consumers will bear... thats their supposed 'tax break'! putting all your eggs in one hypothetical basket, as in gambling our oil independance on unproven alt energy tech is ludicrous... he has almost no leadership experience, especially compared to the gop's veep nom ... care for more?

If Obama takes a jab at McCain/Palin, he is sexist, rude to an old guy that serve the country.

jabs are one thing, referring to a woman as a pig is another... a jab on the issues is valid, personal jabs are another... what if palin referred to obamas big, dumbo ears? or bidens affection for intoxication?

I'm tempted to give Lord Obama a break on this one.

It was just one of his numerous stumbling, bumbling, off-teleprompter moments. This guy can't put two words together without stammering.

Palin sure has him shaken up, he is in shell shock

You..you..err, can put lipstick on a pig...err but it's still a pig.

[edit on 10-9-2008 by RRconservative]

If this is "sexist", then why did John McCain say it about Hillary?
Is he sexist, too?



McCain Uses Lipstick on Hillary

What's more, the McCain campaign may want to stay away from making such accusations in light of new information about McCain using the same expression to describe Hillary Clinton's healthcare plan late last year.

ABC News's Jake Tapper reports:

Last October, asked about Sen. Hillary Clinton's health care plan, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., was blunt.

McCain said Clinton's proposal was “eerily” similar to the ill-fated plan she devised in 1993.

“I think they put some lipstick on a pig,” he said, “but it’s still a pig.”

How convenient for John McCain that he picked a woman for VP and now can sit back and wait for comments that appear to be sexist and then jump on his opponent and cry "sexism"!

Who's is REALLY the sexist here?
Who's playing the "Gender Card"?

Karl Rove has been busy, hasn't he?

I don't think Obama is dumb enough to go after Palin because he KNOWS people are just waiting in the wings to pounce on him.


[edit on 10-9-2008 by Benevolent Heretic]

www.swamppolitics.com...

I can't read the whole thread because it's ridiculous. the link above shows that on OCtober 11, 2007 MacCain used the same expression.
"I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig," he said of her proposal. – MacCain on Hillary's proposal, half way down the article. Now, is he sexist or should we leave it as an expression?

reply to post by feydrautha


I swear to God you all just don't bother to read things do you?

Obama's tax plan actually cuts taxes for small business and entrepreneurs. Households making less than $500K will get a tax cut. The groups who would be seeing tax increases are those who are doing swimmingly well in this abysmal economy. Those making over $500K and humongous corporations that are able to hide money or reap ridiculous profits.
I mean come on, I am all for Exxon making a profit, they put in the time, money and manpower to create the company they have, but they certainly don't need a tax break... do they?

As for Palin's executive experience. Yes she has more than Obama, but he was vetted before the country for 18 months through the primaries, no? And he got the nomination. Palin was picked, anointed , plucked from relative national obscurity to be the number two on a national ticket. The Republican voters had no say, whatsoever in her being chosen. And her executive experience... a mayor of a town of less than 7,000 with NO public debt is $22 million in the hole after her tenure. This is not a Democratic talking point, this is simply fact, even the Wall Street Journal (you know that left wing rag) has even taken her to task over her executive experience and her "fiscal conservatism".


[edit on 10-9-2008 by observer]

Originally posted by tommy_boy
reply to post by jetxnet

 

My God, it's becoming impossible to have intellectually honest discourse these days. Jet, Jamie,

I believe the topic of this thread is "Obama the Sexist," not me or Jet.

Please stay on topic and refrain from discussing the posters instead of the topic.

Now in terms of "Obama the Sexist" and his pig and lipstick comment, please answer this.

Do you think Obama is naive and would not understand the reaction when he made the pig/lipstick comment?

Do you think this is a big shock to him that people took it to be a reference to Palin?

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
If this is "sexist", then why did John McCain say it about Hillary?
Is he sexist, too?

I don't think Obama is dumb enough to go after Palin because he KNOWS people are just waiting in the wings to pounce on him.

The difference I see is John McCain was referring to a policy, not attempting to make a backhanded insult to Hillary herself. I'm sure you can see that for yourself though..

Originally posted by observer
reply to post by northof8

 

Is your ludicrous mentioning of "Obama's Muslim faith" political trolling or what? This canard has been brought up time and again on this board and has been shot down each and every time. Again, this goes to the point that the "right" has NO palatable platform to offer the American public, so they will obfuscate, lie and toss about rhetorical brik-a-brak in order to avoid any debating of actual issues that actually affect our lives.
Go say what you want, you are only reenforcing the moderate, independent and liberal view that the "right" is morally bankrupt and devoid of ideas.
The rest of us will look at issues as best we can and make real decisions based on real things, like facts!
Enjoy your echo chamber.

What is ludicrous is the blatant double standard applied to republicans when a remark like this is said about a democrat. If its political trolling like most on the left here says it is then why bother to respond? If it is meaningless for a black man to call a white woman a pig then why make such a big deal out of defending him?

As far as platform goes I have been waiting for Obama to tell us his platform. All I hear are pig references and other personal attacks from his side of the spectrum.

As far as his Muslim faith goes he is the one who said it on ABC news. It is what it is. A is A in the real world.

The lipstick can make be considered make up, which makes people more attractive( usually)

Until everyday men start wearing lipstick I'll believe it was intentioned as a sexist remark.

I like Obama...well more than I like McCain, but it is a sexist comment and I am embarrassed that it came out of his mouth. Supposedly he is representing the democratic party and half of us are women. It was offensive to me therefore I know it was offensive to many women.

Originally posted by lee anoma
I'm tired as hell of these types of absurd deflection "news" stories when we should be focusing on one of the many crises Americans are facing or will soon face.

This is NOT an absurd deflection news story.

Obama's entire persona, the entire image he and his handlers created, now THAT was the "deflection" news story. His entire strategy was to link in people's minds the words Obama = hope and change, not to make people think he has an answer to ANY crisis.

And now the Obama camp is imploding because Palin and McCain suddenly captured the word "change" in people's minds. Obama picked Biden = NO change. Same old politics. McCain picked Palin = BIG change in people's minds.

Now Obama is desperate to grab the word "change" back. It is the basis of his entire campaign.

So if you are to blame anybody for this "deflection" blame Obama. He's was the one talking about lipstick on pigs and dead fish and not about any issue, other than the nebulous "I'm change, not you!" issue.

reply to post by northof8


One: he did not say the comment in reference to Palin. If he did, I would sincerely like for you to give me proof. Your assumption is not proof. It is an assumption.
Two: Did you watch the Stephanopolous interview or did you read the blurby headline on Drudgereport or The Corner or LittleGreenFootballs and scream to yourself "HE'S A MUSLIM"
I ask because I actually utilized the internets and listened to the podcast... it seems that the comment was spliced and taken out of context. But maybe I'm wrong, I mean I was only using the gift of reason and deduction and God gave me. Not parroting secondhand information from right wing websites.

reply to post by LLoyd45


I'm sure you can see from your self also that the quote is about the Repubilcan's "Change" platform.

reply to post by northof8


I think your commets are racists and false to say the least.
Mods please remove this post.

[edit on 10-9-2008 by newguyhere2]
edited for spelling

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