Legal Bid To Stop CERN Atom Smasher From 'Destroying The World'

Legal Bid To Stop CERN Atom Smasher From 'Destroying The World'

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Critics of the Large Hadron Collider - a £4.4 billion machine due to be switched on in ten days time - have lodged a lawsuit at the European Court for Human Rights against the 20 countries, including the UK, that fund the project.

The device is designed to replicate conditions that existed just a fraction of a second after the Big Bang, and its creators hope it will unlock the secrets of how the universe began.

However, opponents fear the machine may create an Earth-ending black hole.

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10 Days and counting until..... who knows.

This is how it feels to live on the cutting edge of science. No great achivement comes without risk.

CERN website
"Geneva, 7 August 2008. CERN has today announced that the first attempt to circulate a beam in the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) will be made on 10 September."

Wiki: Large Hadron Collider

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"[the LHC] will pack the colossal wallop of 14 trillion electron volts. A trillion electron volts, it turns out, is about the same amount of energy used by a miquito to fly. The remarkable thing about the LHC is that it will concentrate its energy beam into a space one-trillionth the size of a misquito, smashing protons into 10,000 peices or more."

Quoted from apocalypse 2012 by Lawrence E Joseph.

It will be interesting to see what happens.

Whats worse spending 4.4 billion on a machine that destroys the world, or spending 4.4 billion on a machine that doesn't?

[edit on 31-8-2008 by StopComplaining]

Who cares if it will destroy the world ... if it does we will be "too dead" to care ..... if it doesn't it will be interresting to see the progress of this experiment. Anyway it will be worth $4.4$ billion in any case except if it will just froze ... let's wait 10 more days and see ... or maybe more ... if it will destroy the world they won't tell us anyway ...

Originally posted by StopComplaining
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Whats worse spending 4.4 billion on a machine that destroys the world, or spending 4.4 billion on a machine that doesn't?

[edit on 31-8-2008 by StopComplaining]

Or spending a billion on legal fees fighting this in a court. I dont understand how countries could pay for the LHC construction, and turn around and fight in court about it's use.

[edit on 31-8-2008 by mapsurfer_]

www.telegraph.co.uk...

"My own calculations have shown that it is quite plausible that these little black holes survive and will grow exponentially and eat the planet from the inside. I have been calling for CERN to hold a safety conference to prove my conclusions wrong but they have not been willing. "

I would like to see that calculations. Thought I worry less that cerns calculation is wrong but that the used theorie is wrong. Forexample where is the proof about the existence of Hawkings radiation and the imediate decy of mini black holes by this? Here is the critical point if this theorie is wrong then you have the mess.
But I am curious about new discoveries that possible can be made through the LHC. They will sure be interesting.

Professor Rössler claims that, in the worst case scenario, the earth could be sucked inside out within four years of a mini black hole forming.

4 years. Hmm interesting. I thought that would be a lot faster a thing of minutes. 2008 + 4years = 2012... scary..

Well i guess devasting effects would happen at once..can not be good if there is a black hole at the center of the earth. That sure would show a disastreus effect on the surface also I think.

Originally posted by StopComplaining
Whats worse spending 4.4 billion on a machine that destroys the world, or spending 4.4 billion on a machine that doesn't?

lol, yep its a 50 - 50 here. I assume they have already done it though, so to make sure.

But we can dream cannot we, lol.

im just puzzled they ve managed to get ahold of such a sum of money,
but to be realistic ,
if i was them id be building the space station we all must evacuate to when this world becomes radioactive or something far worse with that money,
after that when escape plans have been estblished and built i would even consider to build such a machine.

Originally posted by baburak
Who cares if it will destroy the world

... if it does we will be "too dead" to care ..... if it doesn't it will be interresting to see the progress of this experiment. Anyway it will be worth $4.4$ billion in any case

except if it will just froze

... let's wait 10 more days and see ... or maybe more ... if it will destroy the world they won't tell us anyway ...

Sums up alot of peoples feeling here i would assume and including mine. Why should we care, these know it alls think they know everything. Just let them do it, why should anyone care.

"The legal battle comes as the European Nuclear Research Centre (CERN), in Geneva, prepares to send the first beam of particles around the machine at the official switch on, on September 10, although it will be several weeks before the first particles are collided together. "

www.telegraph.co.uk...

Byway we have to wait more than 10 days for an "possible?" end of the world. Several weeks before the first collisions.


[edit on 31-8-2008 by g210b]

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I can't argue them .... don't know much about those things .... but neither do they (still more then me) .... we still don't know how photons behave in such enviroment ... these sre just assumptions ... we don't know nothing about universe and stuff that's in it ...... we still live just in our solar system without knowing what's over the border .... that's why there is a little chance that it will destroy the world ... cause we don't know all the stuff about it ... but i think it won't be the armagedon case .... even if it does it will be too late to care .... so let's just live on and see what we'll got from it

What they are not telling you is that they turned on the collider and it worked, the problem is that we are now stuck in a 11+ year loop.

Deja vu anyone?

Stopping CERN may stop the loop. See you in 11 days.

i just i hope after the test i dont wake up at the begging of time and have to do everything from scratch.

i just want know where all the important people are going to be when this thing in turned on like the presidents/ leaders of these countries there location should tell you something if they cannot be located in public or are aboard the space station or in underground bunkers on that date then that should tell you something.

1.does anyone know where mr. bush and chenny are going to be on that day?

2. they might push it back a day to sept 11th they will say they ned one more day just make sure everything was perfect then you should really sh*t yourself

does anyone know the exact date and time of the "experiment" when they are going to collide?

I have to laugh when I read about this CERN business. If they know nothing can possibly go wrong, that means they already know the answer to their experiment, so why bother do the experiment at all? I mean why spend 4.4 billion on something they "know" the answer to. The only reason to do that, would be if they believe that they are more than likely right but hey only one way to find out.
Now that is not a reassuring thought.

Oh and the 10th is my birthday,

[edit on 31-8-2008 by kcfusion]

Originally posted by IvanZana
What they are not telling you is that they turned on the collider and it worked, the problem is that we are now stuck in a 11+ year loop.

Deja vu anyone?

Stopping CERN may stop the loop. See you in 11 days.

I think my head just popped. As in, burst wide open.
PLEASE tell me this is a witticism, as I´m not sure I can handle the connotations of being stuck in a time loop.

If you DO believe this, I would be very interested to hear more on this theory.

IMO, a project like CERN could easily distort, damage or otherwise effect the passage of time.

EDIT: also, how did you come up with "11+ years"?

[edit on 31-8-2008 by Psychopump]

Meh, there have been many experiments throughout history where we didn't know the final outcome until it was finished.
We didn't feel the need to panic back then, we shouldn't now.

I think there's allot of undue fear in this experiment.


With that being said... if the result is this horrific science fiction doomsday end to earth...

... at least we'll be going out with a bang.

... a big one.

heh heh, sweet dreams.

[edit on 31-8-2008 by johnsky]

calm down , nothing wrong will happen! Except that we will understand Gravity bit better, and even how space-time works .

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Because the world never knew the possibilities in such a large scale. This is the age of the internet, you don't have to be smart to work things out yourself and know what is going on anymore.

I have to agree completely with the fact that the only way to know nothing bad will happen is that they know the results all ready. Otherwsie anything can happen...