Originally posted by mushninja
I've always been a blue collar, no bs, what you see is whats real kind of guy but this last year has changed who I am and how I precive the world
foever.
Be very careful with your thoughts during this period, You are going to have to know the difference between what your "filter" places on your
perception and what is "real". Also be prepared for stuff to shake your world.
The closest subect I can find that even comes close to what I'm experincing is this "awakening" that people are talking about. I never believed in
all this twigs and berris, fruits and nuts, tree hugging business before.
Good. And you shouldn't start now. Pay attention to what you can feel and sense. That's all that is there. Even though you have a new
perspective on what "is real", don't trade your old concepts which were given to you for another set that is given to you. It's like getting
serious with a rebound girlfriend.... you'll just end up in the exact same spot you were before.
Keep in mind... you must rely on your own senses for reality and understand that your reasoning, whatever it is, only provides a model of how to
integrate what you sense into "what you believe reality to be".
In short, use the model as long as it works, but don't get married to it. Be ready to discard it as soon as new evidence presents itself on the
sensory level.
No spirits, physics, demons, telepathy, vibes or energy flow. Or aliens(the jury is still out on that one for me).
personally, I've had the "alien abduction" scenario happen to me, and I don't think it has anything to do with beings from another planet.
Once again, read everything you can, but don't be pulled in by how convinced the authors are (even me). Remember... you have to be able to hold at
least three possible theories in mind for any experience you have, because no matter how convinced you are of a single theory, chances are it's not
what you think. So it's better to work with different theories. Think Quantum physics. It's a Wave... No it's a particle... No IT's Both! No,
it's just a fluctuation in a conituum... etc. All these theories work for physicists, however, they are all contradictory to eachother. keep that
in mind.
I was raised going to church but it never worked for me. Although I believed in God, I didn't feel a pressence in my life nor have a real
relationship with any higher power.
I had the church upbringing as well. When I turned 27 I started having crazy experiences which any normal person would immediately translate into
whatever their doctrine is, but not me.. I don't trust anything at face value. However, I found it VERY helpful to read as much as you can from
different perspectives on whatever your experiences are to better understand it in broader terms.
For example, Take channeling. Some people claim they are channeling dead people, others aliens, still others egyptian gods. Other less fantastical
folks just use the experience to create, like Robert Frost. At the end of the day, what matters is not where the message is comming from, but how it
impacts you and how you relate to it.
For example, I project onto inanimate objects all the time,usually statues of philosophers, saints, aliens, etc... but sometimes it may be a piece of
furniture. I talk to it, it talks back. But it is all in my head, and I use it as a sounding board, and the process yields great info. What's
behind it? I got theories which are, although beautiful, rather mundane. But as I mentioned, it doesn't matter what causes it.
its the folks who are convinced they know where it is comming from that become the jim jones's of the world. Once again, allow yourself to hold
several different theories, and embrace the models which yeild results, without being convinced of their "reality".
I knew the enviroment was in trouble, but hey, what can ya do right? Gotta live. Till one night my brother and I were pretty much sat down and got out
heads stuffed full of information. I don't know how to even try to explain it. And the more I try,the crazier I'll probably sound. We seem to have
been woken up by a higher power, seem to suddenly be aware of what now appears to be a sinister plot against all of us, seemed to feel the earth
crying out to us to stop the polluting of the air and water, to stop the raping of the land, that as a species we have gone terribly arwy.
Yep.. sounds like what happened to me is happening to you, but the message was much different. See what I mean? Pay attention to it, but don't
allow it to run over your ideas of what is real like your old concepts did. if you do, that's where what people call "possession" can come into
play.
I recommend you read carl jungs
auto biography To get an idea of
how one man approached these same experiences without becoming deluded by the experience.
Yes, very hippish I know. I became very aware that there is far more to this world than science and logic will ever explain, and that evil is all
around us, really.
So one thing you might stumble on as you are trying to read to better understand what's happening to you is the maxim "There is no good or evil,
only thinking makes it so".
keep in mind that the concept of evil was also given to you.
This is what is described in the allegory of genesis when "eve" ate from the "tree of knowledge of good and evil".
Once again the trick is in understanding what supports or can destroy what you hold valuable, without being deluded by your projection of evil on to
that which can destroy what you hold valuable.
You can't solve attachment with aversion.
When we call something evil, it is the adult equivalent of a 2yo who slaps someone which takes a toy away from them. I know it sounds like I'm over
simplifying here, but believe me, when you climb jacobs ladder through the layer of abstractions, you will most likely find a similar thing.
One last word of caution here about "evil". Keep in mind that what you believe to be "evil" will then actually be "evil" in your world. This
is another reason to withhold projection.
Romans 14:14 gives us a glimpse into this.
At that point we kinda started freaking out a bit because this type of thinking has never been a part of who either of us were.
yep... To better balance the "freaking out" that comes with this, I recommend you look into zen. A great book, if you are a westerner is by
Christmas
Humphreys
With such strong feelings we had no choice but to start researching some of this stuff and the plot only seems to thicken. I know there is alot of bs
out there but there really does seem to be an evil plot against us so complex no one man could ever see the whole picture.
Be very careful with this. Remeber, your mind organizes patterns into what it thinks is intelligible and then hands it to you. This is the same mind
that was organizing patterns before you had this experience, so you really have to train it to handle these things.
Here I would recommend you read
Prometheus
Rising from which you will learn the power of how your beliefs shape your reality in a very real way. remember... Seek and you shall find.
Hell I'm alredy sounding like a loon so I'll just say it. It's beginging to appear to me that dominate men and satan, the devil, whathaveyou are
working together against us.
That the planet is pissed and about to revolt against us. That this plan against us is almost complete and that we're mostly screwed. Oh yeah, it
seems to me that there is a collective awakening/eveloution taking place within a portion of the population. And that we may very well find ourselves
evolving in a sense. Anybody with me here, or are we in the midst of some sort of schizophrinic bender?
You are not on a schizophrenic bender, although most schizophrenics have similar experinces. Keep asking yourself.. "home come mystics are revered
but schizophrenics are locked up?" Once again, Jung will add lots of value to this.
keep in mind that as collective reality changes, we come up with new reasons to explain it. As finite organisms, the ego we developed to allow us to
survive is the dominate force within us all. It is very obsessed with determining cause, and thus influences our pattern recognition towards this
end. These processes exist in the left hemisphere of the brain. And your initial impressions are very typical for us humans, as it's new and so the
ego wants to translate it in terms of fear.
However, if you spend some time accessing your right hemisphere, you are more likely to experience states of "oneness" with everything, and
"euphoria", and your ego's need to find a cause, will sublimate to simply a mere curiosity.
Both of these modes of experience though, left and right brain, have evolved in us to balance the other one out, so don't get deluded by either of
them. Play them against eachother, and don't let any grab the reigns for too long. By practicing this, your "observer consciousness" will develop
much more and you'll be happy it did.
One last book to keep on your shelf after you have got your bearings in the new world you are living in, is
Brief history of
everything
[edit on 14-8-2008 by Quazga]