NSA archives: Flight 93 shot down

Originally posted by ULTIMA1
Thanks for at least being adult enough to agree a lot of family members did not take the money.

I never disagreed. I told you 97% took the payout. You are the one that demanded evidence, stating that it seemd high. And after I showed you the documents you still questioned it.... oh why do I bother.

Good Grief

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
I never disagreed. I told you 97% took the payout.

I stll cannot figure out how 97% took the payout but yet there were dozens of family members that did not. It does not add up.

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Sweet Jesus on a popcicle stick... go back to my post with the math.

Here..let me take out some words to see if you can get it:

2,974 Died

2,880 Families accepted the Compensation Funds

94 Did NOT accept it

That means 97% accepted it 3% did not.

Do you get it??

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
Do you get it??

Sorry but i do not trust those numbers, even the media that you like to quote does not agree.

www.prweb.com...

Hundreds of victim family members have been demanding answers to questions about the deaths of loved ones ever since the horrific events of September 11, 2001 - to no avail.

[edit on 5-9-2008 by ULTIMA1]

Originally posted by ULTIMA1
Sorry but i do not trust those numbers, even the media that you like to quote does not agree.

Ok... I'm done. Pathetic. Just pathetic.

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
Ok... I'm done. Pathetic. Just pathetic.

Yes it is pathetic that you do not admit when facts and evindece is posted.

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt

Originally posted by ULTIMA1
Sorry but i do not trust those numbers, even the media that you like to quote does not agree.

Ok... I'm done. Pathetic. Just pathetic.

Did you expect any different?

He's just an agitator. Nothing more, nothing less.

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TY.. you seriously need to start posting your links of what you state!! for 1, the statement says ..evidence... NOT proof. HELLO! in a court of law... you have to, or use to have to, show EVIDENCE of facts or witnesses or docs of people of responsibility, THEN you render if it's PROOF based on the findings & conclusions. This is a rough draft but, it's the just..

You and and a few others on here are confusing evidence with proof. And yea, by NO means I'm I an expert on the courts, but those that are lawyers on ATS can detail this out..

Originally posted by Komodo
TY.. you seriously need to start posting your links of what you state!!

Typically if there is quotes or data, i will source it. If it's an opinion...I will make certain you know it is.

HELLO!

Hello to you!

in a court of law... you have to, or use to have to, show EVIDENCE of facts or witnesses or docs of people of responsibility, THEN you render if it's PROOF based on the findings & conclusions. This is a rough draft but, it's the just..

I tell you what... gather up ALL the "proof" you have to charge the United States Government with mass murder on 911 and take it to a court. I will tell you... that and a $1.20 will get you a large coffee.

You and and a few others on here are confusing evidence with proof. And yea, by NO means I'm I an expert on the courts, but those that are lawyers on ATS can detail this out..

Let me know what your are confused about regarding flight 93. I will be more than happy to verifiy it for you. Let me know what "proof" you need. (within reason) ie: I can't prove there is a God, etc. etc.

Originally posted by discombobulator
He's just an agitator. Nothing more, nothing less.

You keep proving my point about believers having to resort to insults becasue they cannot have an adult discussion.

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by discombobulator
He's just an agitator. Nothing more, nothing less.

You keep proving my point about believers having to resort to insults becasue they cannot have an adult discussion.

Are you sure it's just the "believers", my friend?

This is not to say that those who do not support the "official" story are saints by any means (ULTIMA!'s circular evasions come readily to mind).
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Even the troofers see straight through you!

Originally posted by discombobulator
Even the troofers see straight through you!

I am not here to be on anyones side. I am here to find out what really happened that day.

Unlike the beleivers that live in a safe media fed fantasy world and are afraid to face reallity.

Just to bad no one can debate the real evidence i post or post evidence to support thier claims.

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Just to bad no one can debate the real evidence i post or post evidence to support thier claims.

Um... are you being honest about this? I debated you Roger. Why do I have to keep reminding you? Trust me, I am not tooting my own horn...but when you post disingenuous statements like this I have to call you on them.

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
Um... are you being honest about this? I debated you Roger. Why do I have to keep reminding you?

Yes, i am being honest. I mean i have showeed facts that you cannot debate about when the FBI officially started work on the Pentagon crime scene.

You only think you have debated me but you used quotes from the media that have been proven not to be honest.

I have posted facts and evidence that shows reasonable doubt in the official story, the same official story you believe in without actual facts and evidnece to support it.

[edit on 6-9-2008 by ULTIMA1]

Originally posted by ULTIMA1
Yes, i am being honest.

No you are not.

Did you have a debate with me? y/n

Did you loose the debate? y/n

You only think you have debated me but you used quotes from the media that have been proven not to be honest.

Oh... I only "think" that I debated you? Oh..well the mod Memoryshock must have only been "thinking" that he read it.

In regards to the media links during the debate:

I posted links to the:

Pittsburg Post Gazette.
Can you please show me where they were dishonest?

I posted a link to one article on CNN that stated the distance of debris.
Can you please re-read that article as tell me what was not honest?

And one other to the Pittsburgh Channel.
Can you tell me how they were dishonest.

The rest of my posts contained actual quotes and or data. I also included books and other reference materials.

Now.. lets look at what you used:

Tom Flocco.com (referenced ABC News on the link you posted)

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
Oh... I only "think" that I debated you? Oh..well the mod Memoryshock must have only been "thinking" that he read it.

Oh why don't you talk abot the following, because the Flight 93 shootdown debate is still ongoing untill i get the documents i have requested. DO not forget our deal.

I have showeed facts that you cannot debate about when the FBI officially started work on the Pentagon crime scene.

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I wont forget the deal.

Since you were unable to comprehend the report I posted regarding the FBI and the role they played at the Pentagon, I chose NOT to discuss it further.

Please stay on topic. After all it is your thread.

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
Please stay on topic. After all it is your thread.

NO YOU DON'T.

Don't try to change the subject since i have proven you wrong on when the FBI officially took over the Pentagon crime scene.

Gee you really keep proving me right about believers.




[edit on 6-9-2008 by ULTIMA1]

reply to post by ULTIMA1


The subject is flight 93. You already lost the argument about the Pentagon on that thread.

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
The subject is flight 93. You already lost the argument about the Pentagon on that thread.

Please post evidence that deabtes my evidence of when the FBI took over the crime scene.

If your next post does not contain evidence to debate my evidence it will prove who is being dishonest.