The North Side Flyover - Officially Documented, Independently Confirmed

Originally posted by discombobulator
You.

Now would you please go away.

Thats so funyy since you have posted no evindece to debate me or support the official story.

Please wake up from the fantasy world you live in.

Originally posted by Pyros
ULTIMA1,

So you claim to be an NSA employee, eh? Well, if this is the case, can you answer a few very simple questions for me?

I will answer in a U2U.

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Most of those questions can be answered from information on the internet.

GoogleUniversity!!! yeee ha

Originally posted by fleabit
I'll ask once again, I have no idea why you are ignoring this question.
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I have answered the question many times you are either too immature to understand it or accept it.

Funny how you keep forgetting that the FDR supposidly from AA77 questions the media's officail flight path.



[edit on 22-8-2008 by ULTIMA1]

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by Pyros
ULTIMA1,

So you claim to be an NSA employee, eh? Well, if this is the case, can you answer a few very simple questions for me?

I will answer in a U2U.

In fairness to ULTIMA1, the questions I asked were answered accurately. They were, however, fairly easy questions.

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by discombobulator
You.

Now would you please go away.

Thats so funyy since you have posted no evindece to debate me or support the official story.

Please wake up from the fantasy world you live in.

You have failed to present evidence to make the "official story" false. Why?

You work for the NSA, the premiere intelligence agency of the world and can offer zero evidence to back up you fantasy ideas or support CIT story of failed fantasy and faulty investigation.

The fact is as an NSA employee you would have evidence. Why do you fail to produce it?

The CIT fact is, their own witnesses prove their fly over to be a lie.

You are the one with the fantastic ideas on 9/11, you have to present the proof and evidence. Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon is proven by hard evidence you ignore, you have zero evidence to dispute the fact 77 hit the Pentagon; with you NSA job this must be embarrassing to be a 9/11 truth apologist and not be able to talk about it at work.

Originally posted by Pyros
In fairness to ULTIMA1, the questions I asked were answered accurately. They were, however, fairly easy questions.

Well if you feel i am still not who i say i am then please feel free to ask more questions, BUT only if i get to ask you questions in return.

Originally posted by beachnut You have failed to present evidence to make the "official story" false. Why?

I have posted evidence you refuse to accept it. Also you have posted nothing to debate the evidence i have posted.

The fact is as an NSA employee you would have evidence. Why do you fail to produce it?

Please see above answer.

You are the one with the fantastic ideas on 9/11, you have to present the proof and evidence.

But you also have to present evidence either to debate my evidence or to support your fantasies, you have done neither.



[edit on 22-8-2008 by ULTIMA1]

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by fleabit
I'll ask once again, I have no idea why you are ignoring this question.
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I have answered the question many times you are either too immature to understand it or accept it.

Funny how you keep forgetting that the FDR supposidly from AA77 questions the media's officail flight path.

[edit on 22-8-2008 by ULTIMA1]

The FDR does not question the media's flight path. You can't even explain this, let alone make a point about it. You have no proof, and can not specifically explain what you mean. You talk about it, but you can't spell it out the specific facts. CIT does the same thing, makes up ideas and statements not supported with evidence.

For example the final heading in the FDR matches the exact damage path 77 made as it approached the Pentagon. You make up statements based on nothing. I would expect an NSA employee to understand evidence better, and try to use it.

Originally posted by beachnut
The FDR does not question the media's flight path.

Yes it does, i have the NTSB data on the FDR. Do you ?

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by beachnut
The FDR does not question the media's flight path.

Yes it does, i have the NTSB data on the FDR. Do you ?

No, you are wrong.
I have the NTSB FDR data for 77 and the final heading is exactly lined up with the physical damage 77 did on 9/11 at the Pentagon. Your statement saying the FDR does not support the flight path 77 was seen making on 9/11 is false.

You just make up the statements and move on, and fail to present specifics.

If you support the ideas of CIT, with all you NSA expertise, then please present a flight path 77 did on 9/11.

Originally posted by beachnut
I have the NTSB FDR data for 77 and the final heading is exactly lined up with the physical damage 77 did on 9/11 at the Pentagon.

Then correct me if i am wrong but doesn't the FDR show the flight path on the RIGHT side of the gas station?

Also why did the pilot (hijacker)reset the alimeters and how did he know what to reset them to?

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by beachnut
I have the NTSB FDR data for 77 and the final heading is exactly lined up with the physical damage 77 did on 9/11 at the Pentagon.

Then correct me if i am wrong but doesn't the FDR show the flight path on the RIGHT side of the gas station?

Also why did the pilot (hijacker)reset the alimeters and how did he know what to reset them to?

No the FDR does not show any ground object with resolution better than 2000 to 4000 feet. This is a fact any expert on a FDR would know. Since I am a trained aircraft accident investigator this means you are at a severe disadvantage. You are using the animation which was a working copy and you failed to realize the FDR raw data on heading gives a 61.2 degree true track heading (hope I do not need to explain this to you as a layperson) and the animation photo of the Pentagon was not rotated the correct direction. This could be due to applying the photo of the Pentagon in the animation magnetic variation in error, giving a 17 to 18 degree error. You can check it out if you wish, or you can remain ignorant on this topic. I actually worked on aircraft accident boards, you are not doing well on this subject.

You have failed to understand the animation is made from the raw data, but the ground placed under the animated aircraft is done manually. See, the FDR puts 77 over 2000 feet off the runway at takeoff, so the NTSB placed the photo of the runway under the exact track of 77. This was done manually, you see the navigation system on 77 was on accurate to 2000 to 4000 feet, I thought you NSA guys were better at facts than this. You will be making major errors on this area if you do not try harder.

Originally posted by beachnut
I thought you NSA guys were better at facts than this.

Yes we are. Thats why i am still not believing the official story, i have too much infomration to questions it, SORRY.

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by beachnut
I have the NTSB FDR data for 77 and the final heading is exactly lined up with the physical damage 77 did on 9/11 at the Pentagon.

Also why did the pilot (hijacker)reset the alimeters and how did he know what to reset them to?

All pilots are taught how to set altimeters. The terrorist all had FAA certificates and trained for years to learn to fly. Why would they not do what they were trained as pilots to do? Darn, the terrorist were trained pilots. I would expect the NSA to figure this one out.

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by beachnut
I thought you NSA guys were better at facts than this.

Yes we are. Thats why i am still not believing the official story, i have too much infomration to questions it, SORRY.

You ignore evidence and prefer fantasy.

No you are not knowledgeable on the simple facts about 9/11 and make up stuff. Most NSA employees understand 9/11, you must be the exception. Everyone knows the NTSB animation is a working copy and the ground objects have to placed manually. This is why the runway lines up with the animation, the NTSB placed the runway under the animation despite the fact the navigation system had 77 2000 feet south of the runway. Same with the Pentagon, the NTSB never aligned the Pentagon ground image with the animation. The final heading of 61.2 degrees true track matches the damage of the lampposts and lines up with the Pentagon damage.

Originally posted by beachnut Most NSA employees understand 9/11, you must be the exception.

Yes most NSA employees i know do understand 9/11 and do not believe the official story either.

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by beachnut Most NSA employees understand 9/11, you must be the exception.

Yes most NSA employees i know do understand 9/11 and do not believe the official story either.

Most! Prove it! This would be a good new story. "NSA supports nut case ideas on 9/11".

If you had some evidence to support your ideas on 9/11, you would famous. You can't even list any evidence, you have listed false information about 77 so far and failed ideas about 77.

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Holy smackdown you just placed on ultima1. Please Ultima since you have so much info, please debate beachnut in the debate forum. Last time you debated someone there(i think it was throat) you got whipped. You keep on saying no one can debate you or your evidence, well that would be your chance to show how great you evidence is. That is if beachnut would be willing to waste his time debating you.

Originally posted by beachnut
Most! Prove it! This would be a good new story. "NSA supports nut case ideas on 9/11".

If you had some evidence to support your ideas on 9/11, you would famous.

I will prove my post right after you show any real evidnece that supports the official story. Oh thats right you cannot since most of the information has not been released.

I have posted tons of information that questions the official story. You should go back and read some instead of ignoring it.