Disgusting election taints ATS... Stand up and shut up!

reply to post by intrepid

Originally posted by intrepid
Dude, do you have a memory problem? YOU came at me. YOU made it about me.
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Now you're just being silly. Why don't you come back to this conversation when you can post something other than personal junk.

I'd be satisfied with an explanation of why you decided it was necessary to refer to me and another member as neo-cons? Esp. after you said you were a community builder?

That was personal junk. That was you coming at me. And it was uncalled for.

I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you and destroy this topic(typical tactic). You want to be annoyed, be annoyed. My words stand.

Wow so much baiting and name calling and deflection in this thread it makes me want to laugh. Sometimes people need to learn when to Stand up and Shut up

I'm honsetly not sure what the big issue is here. Having read the initial post and most of this thread, I feel that this is something that works itself out naturally. There has always been a large number of topics such as the OP described here, especially during election seasons. This is nothing new.

Furthermore, if a topic is indeed worthy of discussion, that discussion will come. On the other hand, if a topic is obviously fueled by hate or irrational thought, it will be quickly ignored and will fade away. It's a form a natural selection if you will. This is no different than the rampant reptilian threads we used to get so often. Eventually, they just die out.

I see no reason to continue the bickering or name calling in this thread. Politics is an issue with more than one side, and it always will be. Obviously we can't all agree on issues or candidates issues. We can however, have civilized discussions about them.

If someone wants or tries to bait you into anger on something, be the bigger person and rise above it. It's easy.

Come on people, this is ATS. This isn't a daycare center.

reply to post by nyk537

Well said. This still IS a free country, and ATS is still a forum that airs all people's ideas. Let's keep it that way. Starred.

That's enough of the lack of intelligence, the host answers their own question. If they want free speech everyone else gets a turn, indiscriminately. What I don't like is the lack of censorship. Either board or the author of the topic should have that right to keep the topic comments consistent. You need to read through the comments but if someone has some ultra agenda or personal communications in the middle, that is an eye sore. Off topic and unrelated post must be kept to a minimum.

Now to continue the effort of free speech, Bush has always been Al-qaida's no. 1 man in terrorism. Even from the first campaign we suffered economically. McCain can't even understand it, thats why his camp wants to distance themselve from the prior GOP.

The democrats have always been Pro Al-qaida themselves, ruining our economy and here we go with their influence. Bush no less is offering another round of low income housing, the thing that made the bank poor.

reply to post by rightwingnut

The democrats have always been Pro Al-qaida themselves,

that's the stupidest thing i've read all day.

Show me one shred of evidence that backs up this garbage.

reply to post by KrazyJethro


so does this mean I have to get a snazzy yet pointless avatar to be one of the cool kids and not be censored? Sorry, I never learned to accessorize.

Bravo.

I shed my avatar for the same reason. Just to prove a point

Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
reply to post by rightwingnut

 

The democrats have always been Pro Al-qaida themselves,

that's the stupidest thing i've read all day.

Show me one shred of evidence that backs up this garbage.

Read more of rightwingunit's posts and you will find more of the same.

Baseless accusations of how the Dems are EVIL and PRO AL AQAEDA.

It's not really his fault though, he was fed those talking points from Rove... Does this sound familiar "The Terrorsists want a democrat in office!"

Yep, that was the talking points in 2004, and I'm just waiting for the same anti-american rhetoric starts back again.

Like I mentioned before... I can't wait for Obama to be President!

How the hell do you identify a troll on ATS??? I submit that it is not possible.

Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
reply to post by rightwingnut

 

The democrats have always been Pro Al-qaida themselves,

that's the stupidest thing i've read all day.

Show me one shred of evidence that backs up this garbage.

In the mid 50's with puerto rico demanding freedom from the U.S. the children in america saw the need to end the racist government of the U.S..
The only replacement government they saw was middle eastern, drug, governments.

Their religious beliefs base on inner peace brought on by drug use, very appealing and mind altering. It is apparent, that they believed(u.s. children) to stop racism it would be a sympathetic gesture to burn one's mind away with drugs. A belief that drugs could relieve racism, when it should have been the religion , perhaps.

Therefore in the mid 60's long haired, sandled, low moraled, people, with psychodelic clothing started to appear. Their message was that the government was racist, therefore the education was racist. They quit school and would not work.

When "the screw" was turned down on them,(because they had no money), they cut their hair and became CEOs of the same corporations they say had their foot on the neck of the poor.

Thus by the manner of political economics the Middle Eastern, Drug cultured, Al-qaida, government of the U.S. has been in operation since Nixon.

What did Nixon do? What drug lord do you prefer? Or Bush. The overbearing institution of welfare, a communism at the republic? Welfare killed those who were to be saved, it sank them into that industry of poverty, drugged them and then sent them to that same industry of crime.
This system is the product of those so called Hippies. What about the teenage "hoochie momma". Did they deserve to be "welfare hoochies"?

The children of this country have been their pawns, they suffered the lost of life because of their drugs. It was not as peaceful as they thought. They shared needles, but the children sold drugs for greater economics so there can be no peace.

What of your lower educational standards. Does someone who is half educated, then burns their mind away and doesn't beleive in the educational system, make a good teacher? or politician, any occupation, mother, father?

Why does your child have the brightest color of hair on the planet, all of the piercings in the world, pants down 'round the ankles and just as cardboard ignorant? I won't mention the out croping of homosexuality, but only to point out when you have "free loving people" it tends to say that the biological facts of a human being are to be thrown away as racist. That the mind and it's neccessity for sexual gratification is more important than the factual use of the body's organs. This is the effect of lowered education and morality.

Now, are you ready for low income housing,(round 2) of " let's all get broke, live in the middle of the street, high," only on drugs, communal type of life? You cannot introduce, poor, " high risk", people to the bank!
HUD is a economic destruction device created by the Al-qaida, in their belief of the need to destroy this country's racist economic system. Did affirmitive action ever solve the problem or take it out on someone else? Does "no child left behind" leave more able students, behind?

Did you ever understand that even up until the seventies the taliban had been an american ally. When the world trade org. was formed obviously no one wanted to do bussiness with a drug lord. So who is discounted? Why all of the attempts to disrupt that organization?

Does their belief of turn the piggy bank upside down and let all the "nickles trickle down" work? I don't think so. Do you believe every one should take up a vow of poverty and live in some commune!?
Hand over fist money seems only to have made a trillion dollar theft of your tax money.

reply to post by rightwingnut


I hope thats not a bed-time story you tell to your children at night

A few things wrong with your interpretation of liberal support of Al Qaeda


1.) You post nothing to back up your claim (its sort of a .... gesture of respect, both to youself and to the motto of ATS to bear the burden of proof)

2.) Re-read #1.

reply to post by Andrew E. Wiggin


Liberal support of Al-qaeda???! You think that should be supported? You do not care of what your child would be subjected to. Did you want your 16 yr old daughter drugged up having more children than you can support? Therefore just the whore of the community? These are not just stories these are lives. That mal-manifested belief of a drugged up mind should not be beheld by any human being.

Who are your heroes of the sixties, the Harrison's, the SLA,Mustafa, the Black Panthers, Jessie Jackson, Malcolm X, political economist with only you in mind as the pawn. Your country is broke right now because none of these people thought to leave an economic system intact in their plight to remove the racist government. All of them equal drugs, guns, and money.

Mine happens to be LT. William Calley, the only person I ever saw that realized they were fighting all of viet-nam, women and children included.
That's a broken mind of a sane person in a war zone not one on drugs willing to believe all yellow people weren't the enemy.

Look at Hillary's proposal, a $3500 bond for baby, more welfare prostitues, this bond would never acrue to face value since the parents never worked to make it so.The bond would handed over to drug dealers in the usual "foodstamp trade or buy", granted I understand some need more money. However could we believe that more violence would be emitted because the bond utimately would be declared junk. Imagined being killed at 18 because your mother gave someone a junk bond. Or pressed back into slavery?

I'm afraid common knowledge of history is proof of the social revolution and it's drawbacks.
Blackflash(ebonic), the position of racist after minority overthrow. There is still a racist housing plan where i live, HUD will not give the town the money to tear it down until it is bremming with tenants, i.e. they must appear to be the racist they were inacting that type of housing.
Did you understand the starter duplex, two adjacent homes both splitlevel, no basement, a little backyard, 1bedroom 9X9, 1bedroom 6x9, if that. Just so cutesey for little welfare mommy and baby, but not for you because your in jail on a drug charge, or gun charge, or any other reason to get rid of your poor behind. That's low income housing. How about the new projects made out of light weight pre-fab material and no maitenance plan which leaves said places rat and roach invefested and dilapidated. Yes, you will get the money for what ever plan it is but the maitenance cost are your own. Which most can't afford , visa-vie, default at the bank, making the bank broke.

Education is having the mind to proccess 4000 words, Al-qaida education produces one line of refution and personal attack.

reply to post by rightwingnut


So we go from democratic support of Al Qaeda to mindless yammering?

What does Hillary have to do with this, other than she's a democrat?

And her proposal was $5000 savings bond for every child born here.

My guess is thats one reason why Obama won the nomination. Not her.

Saying Al Qaeda gets support from American democrats is hands down the dumbest thing i've ever heard.

Are you by chance related to Rush Limbaugh?

Whoa here. What has any of this to do with the topic? Let's keep to it folks.

i aplologize i meant to do that but forgot about the affect. So these are the type of abuses to the blog we should restrain from.

Originally posted by CoffinFeeder

so does this mean I have to get a snazzy yet pointless avatar to be one of the cool kids and not be censored? Sorry, I never learned to accessorize.

lol, no.

It was simply an observation as to the source of a fair portion of the problem. I've noticed some sign up (not bothering to do anything to their little ATS yard so to speak) for the fun and game of trolling, baiting, being a general nuisance, and other exciting things until they get bored and get called out too much.

Then they leave. This is by no means a blanket indictment.

Also, I never suggested or supported censorship, only try to encourage an elevation of the discourse.

Enjoy,
KJ

To krazyJethro,

Actually Deny Ignorance. Deny it your attention, your time, your posts, and if you feel a topic has SOME merit, then start a new one that has intellectual content to it.

This is what was said in your opening salvo, I was called, on being, out of topic, by the mod. The space you use for your topic has got to be used by your rules. Shouldn't we be able to use your space when it doesn't conform to your rules.

You complain about useless post, comments or topics. When the points
become overstated or here it isn't really facts that are stated, it's your opinion. I think you should allow then, a different topic to be discussed in your space.

I donot mean to be preclusive but when its dead shouldn't the space be available for pertinent, factual use?

Originally posted by rightwingnut

This is what was said in your opening salvo, I was called, on being, out of topic, by the mod. The space you use for your topic has got to be used by your rules. Shouldn't we be able to use your space when it doesn't conform to your rules.

Dunno man, but the rules in these parts is fairly clear. Derailing threads with things you could JUST AS EASILY put into another thread is looked down upon around here.

Learn from it and adjust.

You complain about useless post, comments or topics. When the points become overstated or here it isn't really facts that are stated, it's your opinion. I think you should allow then, a different topic to be discussed in your space.

First off, I didn't say anything about your derailing. But no, let's be clear, it's not about me. The board, and dare I say reasonable conversation, has rules.

I donot mean to be preclusive but when its dead shouldn't the space be available for pertinent, factual use?

When you decide to actually use ANY of the space on ATS for "factual use", then please let me know.

Otherwise, I'm not terribly interested in your posts in my thread. I'd love to see you come around, but I'm not sure you will. You seem either really young, poorly educated, or just a fool. No offense, but that's the impression I get.

Let's raise the bar and color within the lines, so to speak.

Stay on topic or start a new thread. They're free ya know.